Part of this is terrible

Another part not so much:

New figures compiled by the non-partisan APM Research Lab and released on Wednesday under the title Color of Coronavirus provide further evidence of the staggering divide in the Covid-19 death rate between black Americans and the rest of the nation.

Across the country, African Americans have died at a rate of 50.3 per 100,000 people, compared with 20.7 for whites, 22.9 for Latinos and 22.7 for Asian Americans.

More than 20,000 African Americans – about one in 2,000 of the entire black population in the US – have died from the disease.

The disparity, sure we’d like to know why it happens. But the overall rate – 0.05% of the population. Not, exactly and precisely, an horrendous pandemic. Black Death, for an extreme contrast, was 30%.

As to the why, until we see figures corrected for socioeconomic position we’ll be able to extract nothing of use from he numbers.

32 thoughts on “Part of this is terrible”

  1. On the stats side — I wonder whether this shock will trigger one of those weird events that happen after major wars – where more boys are born. I think it’s a fraction of a per cent more than normal.. statistically very significant as in noticeable to the minister of education 5 years later but not noticeable in a class room.

  2. If you want an example of a truly terrifying disease, look up the “English sweats”. Mortality between 30-50% and you could wake up healthy but be dead by nightfall in the worst cases. It quite possibly changed English history by killing Henry 8th older brother.

  3. Pre-existing conditions, more likely to have diabetes, heart condition, asthma, also genetic conditions like high blood pressure tend to be worse for blacks, also tend to seek medical help later because of mistrust in medicine. Hypertension rate is higher, and blacks account for 42% of new HIV cases.

  4. Is this a vitamin D3 thing? The darker your skin in northern climes the more likely you are to have a deficiency, and there seems to be a link between low vitamin D levels and worse clinical outcomes.

  5. I’d hazard a guess that Democrats have a higher death rate than Republicans. So the virus is not just racist it’s fascist too.

  6. Let me guess, despite the death rate being pretty much the same for whites, Latinos and Asians, the excess black deaths will be the fault of racist white people?

  7. The Meissen Bison

    22.7 for Asian Americans

    The UK figure broke down the asian category into different components. I wonder whether this is a convenient catch-all and that significant differences exist within US asians as in the UK?

  8. UK Asians are from the sub-continent, US Asians are Chinese, Korean, Japanese and from SEA. There is little overlap between them.

  9. Perhaps they’re just not very good at following guidelines re: washing hands or maintaining social distancing?

  10. Black Death, for an extreme contrast

    African-American Death, you racist.

    about one in 2,000 of the entire black population in the US – have died from the disease.

    Globally, it’s probably killed more wypipo per million than anyone else – but there’s no money or media in crying about that. Who would even care?

    But the overall rate – 0.05% of the population. Not, exactly and precisely, an horrendous pandemic.

    Yarp, typical Current Year apocalypse – oversold and underdelivered. Not to be unkind, but most of the people who died are very old and sick anyway.

    If it wasn’t the Chinese Cough they’d probably have succumbed to old people’s other natural predators – flu, falls, and NHS doctors.

  11. ‘New figures compiled by the non-partisan APM Research Lab’

    The lab might be . . . one wonders why the Guardian had to mention that? The Guardian thinks it can hide its partisanship by saying the lab is non partisan. Good that Guardian recognizes the perception it is biased.*

    *Of course, they won’t fix the bias. They’ll instead use tricks like this to deceive.

  12. This is naked, cheapass racism by the Guardian.

    ‘While co-morbidities are a factor, there is mounting evidence* that black Americans are disadvantaged in terms of access to diagnostic testing and treatment for the disease.’

    There is no treatment for the disease.

    *’Mounting evidence’ is meaningless “scientific” study talk. You have evidence or you don’t. Calling it ‘mounting’ means you don’t.

  13. The Meissen Bison

    @rhoda – there’s an Indian chap in The Simpsons so there must be others too.

    @Steve – I don’t think Black Death (Ooops, y pestis I mean) ever made it’s way to Sub-Saharan Africa so white folks are descended from people who survived it and black folks aren’t. I’m asking an eminent epicdimologist to model this.

  14. TMB, indeed when I lived near Dallas it was apparent that the northern side of the city had a substantial Indian population, preferred employees in the various tech firms there. Meanwhile here in Oxfordshire the largest identifiable minority in the county is Chinese at around 3%, it seems.

  15. re: the Y Pestis in Africa thing… Not so sure it wasn’t there..

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/03/black-death-may-have-transformed-medieval-societies-sub-saharan-africa

    The article mentions a number of interesting occurences in the same time frame as the european outbreaks. And the Y. Pestis found in Africa today is still the closest living relative to the killer strain that almost downed Europe.
    And we know the trade routes, and with it the rats, were well established since at least the Egyptian era, and pretty much the only way in until far past the epidemic outbreaks in Europe.

  16. The Meissen Bison

    Ljh/Grikath – I should have stuck a smiley face on that: I thought my epicdimologist was a clue 🙂

  17. @TMB people are Bored, and you pushed the Button… 😛

    Slow day here in Holland, it being an official holiday and all.. 😉

  18. Coronavirus is most deadly to the elderly. More blacks die of it than whites. Therefore, . . . .

  19. In today’s Times:

    ‘Black and other ethnic-minority Britons are no more likely to die of Covid-19 than white people after taking into account the effects of other illnesses and deprivation, documents submitted to the government’s scientific advisers show.

    The finding, from research covering almost 24,000 patients admitted to hospital, came from a tranche of study papers released yesterday by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, used to inform the government’s decision-making processes. However, the researchers behind the findings cautioned that they were preliminary results, and it was possible they would change when more data came in.’ ….

    ‘The findings on ethnic minorities, which came out of a research paper by scientists in Edinburgh University and Liverpool University, was among the most surprising. Raw data suggests that most ethnic minorities are at a higher risk of suffering serious complications from the disease. Black men and women, for instance, are about four times more likely to die than white people.

    This has led to concerns that ethnic minorities, and in particular ethnic-minority health workers, are being let down. However, the paper showed that when you account for a suite of patient characteristics, these differences drop away.

    The scientists looked at more than 20 factors including age, sex and income, and whether or not the patients smoked. They then matched up white and non-white patients who were most similar on those factors and explored how survival rates differed. They concluded that “no excess ICU [intensive care] admissions or deaths” were seen in the ethnic-minority patients.’

  20. “This has led to concerns that ethnic minorities, and in particular ethnic-minority health workers, are being let down. However, the paper showed that when you account for a suite of patient characteristics, these differences drop away.”

    Again, this assumes there is an actual treatment for CV-19. There’s not.

    It is unlikely the virus is racist. Should blacks die in far greater numbers (4X?), it is evidence that they are indeed inferior. In other words, the press should STFU.

  21. The Grauniad says that 50.3 is almost three times 20.7 whereas in reality it is almost two-and-a-half times 20.7.
    Facts? What facts?

  22. The Grauniad says that 50.3 is almost three times 20.7 whereas in reality it is almost two-and-a-half times 20.7.
    Facts? What facts?

    I remember one of those ridiculous “Fact checking” sites grudgingly accepting that some figure (say it was 42%) was indeed close to the real figure, 41.87% or something, and that Trump or whatever Enemy of the People was technically correct.

    Numbers mean different things to these people depending on context.

    Oh, and “non-partisan”, Lol. Prove it.

  23. socioeconomic position

    Left Bullshit

    Why no figures for Orientals who have lower CV19 death rate than whites and Red Indians higher?

    Seems they’re all trying to be top of victim tree, won’t be long before RoPs finding excuse to say they’re worst hit

    Unless Left planning to re-introduce their long supported Eugenics, the why is tan colour – suck it up and accept

    Oh almost forgot, NHS staff deaths Left screaming about (Morgan in DM today): No different from rest of population

    Wonderful – We can open our mail again to read demands for payment
    – CDC reverses stance, says coronavirus ‘does not spread easily’ on surfaces
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn94RZdkz3Q
    “Science” told by Gov’t seems to change to support their day/week old latest agenda – back to school, fewd ays later ‘desks not infectious’
    The “what we know” seem to lag days/weeks behind what Gov’t says to do

  24. The Pedant-General

    “The scientists looked at more than 20 factors including age, sex and income, and whether or not the patients smoked.”

    Obesity is the big factor missing from this highlight list I would suggest.

  25. “The “what we know” seem to lag days/weeks behind what Gov’t says to do”

    Government: it can’t be done any slower.

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