Perhaps not the right decision

More than 300,000 in the UK may have quit smoking during the coronavirus crisis as evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests.

A further 550,000 have tried to quit, while 2.4 million have cut down, according to the joint study by YouGov and the campaign group Action on Smoking and Health (Ash).

Given that the actual evidence is that – as far as anything is certain so far – nicotine is protective then, well, can we prosecute ASH for killing people?

15 thoughts on “Perhaps not the right decision”

  1. evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19

    Really? I’d like to see that evidence. There is also evidence of a correlation between smoking and less severe ill health due to this illness. In fact doctors in France are trialling Nicotene patches on some patients.

  2. Nah, it’s not the nicotine, it’s the protective layer of mucus that traps the little fuckers then gets coughed up.

  3. ‘More than 300,000 in the UK may have quit smoking during the coronavirus crisis as evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests.’

    Campaigners campaigning. On a crisis. They have no soul.

    ‘The survey of 1,004 people suggested 2% of smokers had quit because of concerns about coronavirus; 8% were trying to quit; 36% had cut down; and 27% were now more likely to quit.’

    “Yeah, I quit mate, now leave me alone.”

    Of the 1,004 surveyed, how many were actually smokers? Is this 2% of 80 people?

    2 + 8 + 36 + 27= 73

    Clever. Not 73% of people surveyed, but 73% of the smokers. 50 people?

    “More than 300,000 campaigners in the UK may have quit campaigning during the coronavirus crisis as evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests.”

    Fixed?

  4. Roué le Jour,

    If air quality improves due to lockdown, maybe lungs produce less mucus and urban populations become more vulnerable to covid-19.

  5. Slightly OT, the plague doctors seen walking about Norwich are wearing 16th C bird masks, as the beak is stuffed with smouldering tobacco leaves to give immunity to coronavirus.
    PHE have yet to comment – allegedly.

  6. From what I read smoking makes you less likely to catch it but if you do then more likely to have a severe illness from it.

    If what I read is right then ASH aren’t being technically incorrect as if you get Covid and you’re a smoker then you are more vulnerable. It is however, disingenuous as fuck.

  7. ‘ may’ – there’s that word again – along with its stable mates, ‘might’ and ‘could’ beloved of ‘reports’ and ‘research’, the device of snake oil salesmen peddling their remedy pretending there is evidence of efficacy.

  8. ‘… evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests’

    I understood that it had been claimed that smoking made people less vulnerable to infection, but more vulnerable to a more serious form of the disease.

    But since even what passes as Government conflate ‘infection’ and ‘disease’ it is likely that ASH don’t understand the difference either.

    (Infection + symptoms = Disease. Infection + 0 symptoms = Infection. Which is why vaccination does not prevent infection, it prevents the infection producing symptoms and thus disease by the antibody response vaccine causes to kill off the infection before it can produce symptoms.)

  9. ‘… evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests’

    A YouGov survey finds clinical evidence of greater vulnerability to a virus? Remarkable!

  10. ‘evidence mounts’

    Another junk science term, like the others John B lists.

    You have evidence or you don’t. It’s not subject to superlatives.

  11. More than 300,000 in the UK may have quit smoking during the coronavirus crisis as evidence mounts that the habit makes them more vulnerable to Covid-19, a survey suggests

    Fixed:
    More than 300,000 in the UK may have quit smoking during the coronavirus crisis as they are forbidden to leave home and Gov ‘volunteers’ refuse to buy & deliver

    Chris Snowden has written for MSM how FDA & PHE are distorting evidence to fit their agenda

  12. BiND: good link re Snowdon. I was a bit dubious for the first few citations not explicitly correcting for smoke-rate-at-age-bucket but the latter ones are pretty convincing.

    I’m still waiting for a public dataset about national-level detection, hospital admission, ventilation and fatality rates tying to age bucket, smoking, gender, ethnicity, BMI etc. Would be very interesting to analyse. Also per-week excess fatalities grouped by smoker status for the past 4 years. I’m pretty sure the data exists.

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