So exactly what are you suggesting then?

There really is a racial divide in the US. My own – based on little more than my own prejudice and observation – assumption is that the different groups don’t shag each other enough. The only long term solution to caste that I know of being a blending of the subsequent generations into there not being castes or racial groupings that can be identified or that people care about. My own genetic heritage includes a number of groups that would, at one time, have been considered very much outsiders – Irish, a tad of Peruvian, Huguenot further back and so on. Nowadays no one gives a toss about any of that – OK, a dermatologist might comment on the Irish fairness and the noonday sun – and people hate me for my character, not my origin.

Any look at the demographics of London show this process carrying on, as it always has done in that city. “Mixed race” being by far the fastest growing group. The outmarriage (or, to be modern, out-partnering) rate for Afro Caribbeans is something like 35% in a generation. There won’t be that identifiable group, without further immigration at least, in a few generations. London always was like this too, I think I’m right in saying that it was late in the 19th cent. before the place actually replaced its own population without immigration. There have, that is, been Londoners for a long, long, time but the genes have near always been, in large proportion, those of incomers.

OK, well, an interesting diversion. Looking at the same problem an activist has a different solution:

In the next 66 years, fulfilling the promises of Brown requires we reimagine and rethink our social structures. This reconsideration requires shedding the entrenched individualism that allowed white landowners to equate human suffering with their rights to enslave.

Oh, group rights, rather than individual, are the solution to people being seen as members of a group, not individuals.

That’ll work, right?

61 thoughts on “So exactly what are you suggesting then?”

  1. What we need is a great big melting pot
    Big enough, big enough to take
    The world and all its got and keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
    And turn out coffee coloured people by the score…

  2. The only people who care about black Americans are white Americans. Once they’ve gone, or lost power, the Hispanics will get rid of you. Still, it’s good the have a dream. Perhaps you can emigrate to Wakanda.

  3. “The outmarriage (or, to be modern, out-partnering) rate for Afro Caribbeans is something like 35% in a generation.”

    Unfortunately, many of those, er, partnerings don’t last very long, and the taxpayer picks up the costs of the resulting progeny, which swell the underclass.

    Meanwhile, some lefties salivate at the prospect of whitey’s racial suicide.

  4. Lincoln had hopes of shipping out all the blacks after the Civil War. I imagine that would have been completely impractical given the shipping of the time. Slightly more practical would have been to give them a Bantustan and expel them from the rest of the US. After all that’s what they’d done with the Injuns.

  5. @DocBud
    Didn’t you go to the meeting where that song was banned from the airwaves for being non-PC?

    @TMB
    +1

  6. The people who enslaved were not the white landowners who bought slaves but the Africans (that includes some Arab-Africans) who enslaved people (including some white people seized by African pirates) and then sold them.
    A minor point – until we get to writer’s grandstanding demand that pretends that the core thing wrong with the USA is white landowners enslaving people.

  7. The unfixable problem is dominant & recessive gene alleles. One white parent + one black parent = one black child. We don’t get continuous shades of brown.

  8. I see over in the states they are pursuing ‘racial justice’ by the time honoured method of breaking into their neighbour’s stores and stealing Nikes and widescreen TVs. And getting themselves shot.

    Can anyone tell me if this method has ever achieved any racial justice anywhere?

  9. nearing 100,000 deaths caused by Covid-19. Early data indicates that black Americans comprise a disproportionate number of the victims

    Back in March Black Twitter was convinced they were immune to it, so go figure.

    Sixty-six years after Brown partially overruled the “separate but equal” doctrine – laying the foundation for black Americans to have equal access to better schools, healthcare, and housing

    Genuinely dunno. The top 10% of blacks (think Mrs Obama) got access to better schools, etc. in large part thanks to affirmative action (a policy that’s probably only sustainable when you have a white supermajority – somebody needs to create the spoils you’re gonna racially redistrib.).

    Unfortunately, average blacks brought the ghetto with them and helped turn around previously successful schools into mini-jails with metal detectors on the doors. All down to racism, natch.

    African Americans have been deemed property longer than we have been considered citizens. Our wealth and resources have been extracted longer than we have been able to accrue or maintain them.

    Just don’t ask any follow up questions about what “wealth and resources” she’s talking about. Maybe she means when the White Man stole blues music.

  10. @TMB: I did look at that bit of tortured wording too, but I ‘think’ he means the conflict of the individual right to own slaves was considered a suitable argument against ending the suffering of the individual slaves. Thus individualism bad!

    But the logic is terrible, because even if you reduce things to groups, there are still going to be conflicts of group ‘rights’, so the problem is not individualism, its that right A can be in conflict with Right B, and some sort of decision is going to be needed to decide who ‘wins’. For example you could cite the group rights of gays to exist, and of Muslims to follow their traditional religious rights to throw gays off tall buildings.

  11. “Irish, a tad of Peruvian …”

    A bit like Paddington Bear, then, accounting for the ginger hair?

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    The only long term solution to caste that I know of being a blending of the subsequent generations into there not being castes or racial groupings that can be identified or that people care about.

    Extinction through hybridization is extinction nonetheless.

    and people hate me for my character, not my origin.

    That, alas, is not true. The world is full of people who hate you because you are White. Many of them work at the Guardian for instance. Or in academia. You can just walk through many inner cities in America and Britain and this will be demonstrated comprehensively.

    And this is the problem. We are bringing hundreds of thousands of people every year into the UK who happen to hate Britain and all it stands for. If they don’t, twelve years of the BBC, the Guardian and the Department of Education will make sure their offspring do. What do the Islamists have in common with the Trots? They joined together to form the Stop the War Coalition. Some express that by writing idiotic op-eds for the Guardian, some express it by raping White girls and some blow themselves up.

    There won’t be that identifiable group, without further immigration at least, in a few generations.

    Sure. One way of getting rid of White racism is to get rid of Whites. But I think that some people might object to that.

    It will also be a disaster for the world. Science and technology disproportionately depend on White people. Especially English speaking White people. Why that is I do not know. I would not argue that it is a genetic thing (nor would I refuse to accept it might be). All I know is that we have comprehensively tried to teach other people to do it and they can’t – more or less. Some are more successful than others. But people of African descent are not even remotely capable of mastering a modern technological society. It is not a matter of funding – some inner city London schools cost more than Eton. New York and Baltimore get more Federal education money than anywhere else. For the planet to support 6 billion people, we need a majority White country somewhere.

    There have, that is, been Londoners for a long, long, time but the genes have near always been, in large proportion, those of incomers.

    But close relatives. Not foreigners from thousands of miles away who hate us. And it matters. Britain gave Jamaica a constitution, but Jamaica was filled with Africans – with some White genes I guess. Britain also gave Mauritius a constitution but filled it with South Asians. Britain gave New Zealand a constitution. It turns out that the constitution is irrelevant. What determines whether those are good places to live are the genes of the ruling class.

    Oh, group rights, rather than individual, are the solution to people being seen as members of a group, not individuals. That’ll work, right?

    You may not be interested in racism, but racism is sure interested in you. We have tried to get rid of White racism – and we largely succeeded. But it was a unilateral surrender. They did not stop hating us. And as long as the Left is teaching hatred to mobilise a growing section of society – a future majority – to hate us, we will be forced to respond in kind. Except we won’t and so we will all go up the chimney. Britain’s future is Zimbabwe.

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    This reconsideration requires shedding the entrenched individualism that allowed white landowners to equate human suffering with their rights to enslave.

    Is it worth pointing out that American individualism allowed people, many of them landowners, of all colours to own slaves. Sure, that is a little bit like Anatole France’s comment on bridges. But then again it isn’t.

    Anthony Johnson is the man who first used the Courts to turn an indentured servant into a slave. He held four indentured servants. Only one of them Black. That Black said that his seven years were up and hence he was free. Johnson agreed, and then changed his mind, went to Court – and won.

    This daye Anthony Johnson negro made his complaint to the court against mr. Robert Parker and declared that hee deteyneth his servant John Casor negro under the pretence that said negro was a free man. The court seriously consideringe and maturely weighing the premisses, doe fynde that the saide Mr. Robert Parker most unjustly keepeth the said Negro from Anthony Johnson his master … It is therefore the Judgement of the Court and ordered That the said John Casor Negro forthwith returne unto the service of the said master Anthony Johnson, And that Mr. Robert Parker make payment of all charges in the suit.”

    As the quote makes clear, Johnson was Black. Born in Angola. Taken prisoner by some other Angolans and sold to some Arabs. He ended up in the US, changed his name, worked hard, saved some money – and bought some people.

  14. For years i’ve heard the bleating that it’s not fair that blacks don’t get as much as whitey and whitey keeps all the stuff for himself and blacks don’t get their fair share. Now that blacks are getting more than their fare share of covid they are still moaning. Furthermore the world is not looking to Africa or the middle east (except Israel) to develop a vaccine – no they’re looking to whitey to pull their coals out of the fire. No doubt the lack of gratitude will be overwhelming.

  15. ‘It means more grocery stores in affluent white urban neighborhoods’

    Whites embrace freedom. Blackists hate freedom.

    This isn’t black vs white. It’s liberty vs statism.

    A disproportionate number of blacks have died because of grocery stores.

  16. “And as long as the Left is teaching hatred to mobilise a growing section of society”

    The Left is using blacks as human shields. The blacks are tools. Slaves to the Democrat Party in the U.S.

    It’s not about race at all, but blacks don’t realize that.

    ‘Early data indicates that black Americans comprise a disproportionate number of the victims.’

    In science, it’s not enough to just notice a correlation. A theory to explain a possible cause of the correlation is required. IOW, an assertion of disproportionate affect, by itself, is useless. The theory that it is caused by whites having better grocery stores is a joke. Hence, the whole article is a joke.

    The Guardian is trolling the blacks. Agent provocateur.

  17. moqifen said:
    “the world is not looking to Africa or the middle east (except Israel) to develop a vaccine – no they’re looking to whitey to pull their coals out of the fire. No doubt the lack of gratitude will be overwhelming.”

    Except for that daft woman from Oxford who wanted her people to fail, because thousands of people dying wasn’t nearly as bad as an ancient English university succeeding.

  18. I’ve seen two main suggested explanations for this disparity:

    1. The disease is more prevalent in urban areas, especially very high density urban areas. Black people are much, much more likely to live in these places rather than somewhere out in the sticks. Thus the proportion infected matches their population density WHERE THEY LIVE, not nationally.

    2. Vitamin D deficiency during winter months. Semi-plausible and I imagine easily remedied with supplements/actually going outside.

    Implausible/ridiculous/Leftish race baiting causes:

    1. Racism
    2. Supermarkets
    3. Capitalism

  19. Britain’s future is Zimbabwe.

    Nah. Because we’ve got nowhere else to go.

    I reckon the future lies somewhere between Tim’s theory we can shag* our way to racial harmony and SMFS’s Planet of the Apes horrorshow.

    We actually have a pretty good idea of what multiculti “societies” look like – Yugoslavia, NornIron and Brazil. Low level ethnic tension punctuated by the odd outburst of violence, but in general most people sticking to their own.

    Interesting thing is migration, political correctness, etc. provokes the creation of antibodies in the form of populism (or whatever you want to call it) – I don’t think Brexit would’ve happened if Blair hadn’t happened first. Trends continue until they don’t. Anybody who thinks smug metropolitan liberalism has a future probably thought Enron was a great investment.

    *I would shag 1990’s Naomi Campbell in a heartbeat, but the amount of alcohol required to boff Diane Abbott would render me incapable.

  20. I reckon the future lies somewhere between Tim’s theory we can shag* our way to racial harmony and SMFS’s Planet of the Apes horrorshow.

    With modest immigration, everyone ends up marginally browner in 3 generations’ time and that’s kinda it. Thing is, the pro-immigration lefties and racist non-whites don’t like that. What lefties and non-white racists want is ‘diversity’. Which means fewer white people. Ideally none, apart from the lefty ‘officer class’, which wouldn’t survive two minutes in a minority white UK.

    Of course whiteness is not the only way to civilisation. Go to Japan. For all its quirks, it is arguably the world’s most civilised nation and makes the UK’s first world status look shaky.

    Ask the Japs what they think about the benefits of mass immigration from Goatfuckistan and Africa.

  21. Surreptitious Evil

    Except for that daft woman from Oxford

    *Oxford Brookes

    OB member of staff but taught (angry studies, misandry edition) at the actual Oxford 🙁

  22. The ‘group’ is the problem. Multi-culturalism = Tribalism. Years ago this wasn’t an issue, given England was broadly one tribe and were able to accommodate modest diversity. I was struck when reading Kenny Lynch’s recent obit. Said he didn’t experience racism until the Windrush crowd arrived. Suddenly Kenny ceased being part of the gang and became categorised as a member of that other gang. When I was a kid every street had ‘one’ Irish lad, a Jamaican, and the Polish guy who’d arrived during the late 1930s. It was manageable. Shit I remember when Tottenham was still white. Nowadays you may nod, smile, acknowledge your neighbours from the adjacent street with a wave of the hand – but it’s highly unlikely you’ll ever share a pint, let alone invite him home for supper. Best we can hope for is to continue to be polite to each other.

  23. So Much For Subtlety

    JC cOLLINS May 28, 2020 at 11:02 am – “Please compare and contrast Brasil and Cuba.”

    I wouldn’t have thought there was that much difference really. It is easier to get a decent library book in Brazil and you can go to any Church you like. Also Brazil has more Germans (Thank you Lord for arranging that. Fans of Gisele Bunchen appreciate it) so it means they have some competent decent-sized companies.

    Gamecock May 28, 2020 at 11:04 am – “The Left is using blacks as human shields. The blacks are tools. Slaves to the Democrat Party in the U.S.”

    If only. I use a dog as a shield. The dog can be relied on to bite. But he does not bite because he wants to keep my home and property safe. Well he does actually. But he is also in to it for his own reasons that have nothing to do with my property. Blacks are not well trained or domesticated. It is not like setting your Alsatian on some Jehovah Witnesses. It is like releasing smallpox. If Whites like Joe Biden actually did control them, we would have nothing to worry about it.

    Steve May 28, 2020 at 11:21 am – “*Oxford Brookes”

    Wasn’t she “educated” at Brookes but now teaches at the Big Boy’s play pen at the other end of town?

    Rob May 28, 2020 at 11:30 am – “I’ve seen two main suggested explanations for this disparity”

    I am willing to bet that the rate of infection is directly related to basic personal hygiene. You see a street where the front yards are neat, mown and garbage-free, you will have a street with low infection rates. Who washes more often – the Swedes or the Italians?

    Oddly enough the first few doctors who died of this disease come from countries famous for, well, shall we say creative alternatives to toilet paper?

    Steve May 28, 2020 at 11:32 am – “Nah. Because we’ve got nowhere else to go.”

    We are fleeing in record numbers. To Whiter climes like New Zealand.

    “Trends continue until they don’t. Anybody who thinks smug metropolitan liberalism has a future probably thought Enron was a great investment.”

    I don’t see this trend stopping. It is too late in America which will be Brazil simply through natural population growth. Trump is the last hurrah of the White population. In ten years time, twenty at the most, Fidel Castro will have more chance of being elected than JFK.

    MC May 28, 2020 at 11:45 am – “With modest immigration, everyone ends up marginally browner in 3 generations’ time and that’s kinda it.”

    And how do you plan to keep migration “modest”? About 50% of the population is happy with an endless flow of Bangladeshi rapists. What makes you think that 40% of present voters and 20% assorted vibrants won’t support higher immigration? And 30% present voters and 40% vibrants won’t support even higher immigration? And 90% vibrants won’t simply open the border?

    You like Britain as it is. That don’t mean they do.

  24. And how do you plan to keep migration “modest”?

    Many nations manage it. The hordes don’t target Britain because we’re great, but because we’re easy.

    About 50% of the population is happy with an endless flow of Bangladeshi rapists.

    Not sure about that. I presume your counter argument would be ‘Well if they are so unhappy, why don’t we have have a race war going on right now?”

    The Establishment is happy with cheap labour from Rapeystan because its daughters aren’t going to mix with the labour.

  25. Mixed race children, irrespective of bring born in or out of wedlock, are the future and in Londons case the very near future.

    A significant consequence is the dilution of the intersectional status of being black. When almost everyone is black by dint of, say, a single black grandparent there won’t be enough victimisation to go round.

    This will happen. The rush to self-identify as black to reap the affirmative rewards, cruelly echoes the rush to discriminate through miscegenation only a couple of centuries ago. You can’t beat demographics though and not all the changes they bring about will be entirely as predicted.

  26. SMFS
    The tricky problem for Islam is that it doesn’t do to well outside countries where you can sleep out in the open. How could Muslims survive in Sweden, for example, without Swedes to keep them warm and fed? The same applies to much of the rest of northern Europe. They might take it, but they couldn’t hold it.

    The best plan is for us to convert to Islam, then we can declare them to be the wrong kind of Muslim and slaughter them with a clear conscience as Allah demands.

  27. The problem isn’t migration, per se. It’s the lack of integration. It doesn’t matter what colour people are if they love the Queen and revere the Magna Carta.

    Migration without integration is profoundly stupid.

    “If Whites like Joe Biden actually did control them, we would have nothing to worry about it.”

    See “tribalism” above. Also, “If you support Trump over me, you ain’t black!”

    “The disease is more prevalent in urban areas”

    A good theory. Though the complaint isn’t the unequal numbers of people who contract it, but those who die from it. The numbers of people by race who have contracted the disease isn’t given. For all we know, the death rate for blacks could be LOWER than for other races. As you suggest, more blacks may die from it because more blacks get it, AND, that may be because of black and/or inner city behaviors. That is, they bring it on themselves.

  28. So Much For Subtlety

    MC May 28, 2020 at 12:38 pm – “Many nations manage it. The hordes don’t target Britain because we’re great, but because we’re easy.”

    Which ones? The US? France? Germany? Greece?

    “Not sure about that. I presume your counter argument would be ‘Well if they are so unhappy, why don’t we have have a race war going on right now?””

    Well no because I don’t think the British do race wars. Although we clearly do have a very low level race war going on. A lot of crime seems to be racially motivated. My counter argument is that the British voter has repeatedly voted to leave the UK and limit immigration. They put up a huge fight against Brexit, but they have sort of conceded. For now. But they have not done one single damn thing to limit immigration. Yes, Theresa May talked a good talk. But she did nothing. Boris is thinking about Amnesty.

    How committed is our ruling class to destroying Britain that Brexit is the easier option?

    “The Establishment is happy with cheap labour from Rapeystan because its daughters aren’t going to mix with the labour.”

    And …. they are going to change their mind soon are they? The Establishment which would now be represented by a PM who is married to a part-South-Asian with mixed race children, a Home Secretary who is Indian Ugandan, a Treasurer who is also South Asian and I am not sure what Raab does, but he is the son of a Jewish refugee from Czechoslovakia. You mean those members of the Establishment?

  29. The U.S. severely limited immigration from 1924 (til 1965). A primary reason was that time was needed to integrate those who were already here.

    Immigration can be controlled. Governments choose not to.

  30. So Much For Subtlety

    Gamecock May 28, 2020 at 1:01 pm – “The problem isn’t migration, per se. It’s the lack of integration. It doesn’t matter what colour people are if they love the Queen and revere the Magna Carta.”

    Well America tried its version of this. And for years they had some Blacks who had names like George Washington Carver. But those Blacks were told they were sell outs. The appeal of race hatred proved far stronger than assimilation – in so far as Blacks can be assimilated. The same is true of Britain. First generation Afro-Caribbeans were often people who loved the Queen. Their children have been raised on rap, the BBC and endless classes about slavery. They do not love the Queen.

    You cannot assimilate the unassimilateable. And if you allow people to brow beat you into handing over money – whether they are muggers or race hustlers like Jessie Jackson – you will find a lot more people brow beating you.

    “See “tribalism” above. Also, “If you support Trump over me, you ain’t black!””

    It is not tribalism. Socialism may be stupid but Seattle is not a bad place to live. Because socialism only kills when it comes with a non-White majority. So if the Whites were in firm control of the Black community, we might end up with JFK. Even Clinton wasn’t too bad. But they are not. To get elected White Democrats have to pander more and more. So the best you can hope for is Bill de Blasio. Biden tried to keep them on the plantation but they are annoyed he took them for granted. He needs to pander more. Old Racist Joe Biden would have been a good candidate. Woke Joe isn’t.

    “As you suggest, more blacks may die from it because more blacks get it, AND, that may be because of black and/or inner city behaviors. That is, they bring it on themselves.”

    It kills fat people with diabetes. The female Black community should be very afraid. Although, you know, it is mean to say it, so I won’t. I will just say Dianne Abbott.

  31. “Interesting thing is migration, political correctness, etc. provokes the creation of antibodies in the form of populism (or whatever you want to call it) – I don’t think Brexit would’ve happened if Blair hadn’t happened first. Trends continue until they don’t. Anybody who thinks smug metropolitan liberalism has a future probably thought Enron was a great investment.”

    And Cameron. If the Conservatives had elected Davis as leader, they’d have won 2010. Cameron was ineffective in opposition and only got the votes he did because Brown was so rubbish. And he put off lots of right wingers like me who saw him as, broadly speaking, a wrong ‘un. If he was a Europhile but had some generally good tax-slashing and privatising policies, I might have voted for him, but it was just more New Labour. And he was never serious about immigration, whether legal or otherwise. Everything was for show (and had zero impact on the stats).

  32. @ Steve
    “What if I don’t want semi-retarded offspring who look nothing like me though”

    Don’t fuck.

  33. @John

    “A significant consequence is the dilution of the intersectional status of being black. When almost everyone is black by dint of, say, a single black grandparent there won’t be enough victimisation to go round.”

    Nah, they already have a victim hierarchy amongst the blacks – those with lighter skin (descended from the house niggers) are seen as not as repressed as the darker skinned ones (who are descended from the field niggers). Tim has mentioned this numerous times in the past.

  34. Theophrastus

    “Race is not a social construct. Societies are racial constructs”

    Is that yours? It’s good. Might ask if I could have the loan of it.

    And isn’t it great to have SMFS back? Cometh the hour. Cometh the man.

  35. Recusant

    “Race is not a social construct. Societies are racial constructs.” is not mine. I got it from Wrath of Gnon.

    And, yes, good to see SMFS is back and on form.

  36. SMFS – you’re suffering from advanced Peter Hitchensism (there’s no cure). You’d probably have been quite eloquently and logically telling the Rohirrim why they should just give up now, all is lost, etc. before the Battle of Helm’s Deep.

    (Or them Welshmen at Rorke’s Drift if you prefer – Zulus, sah, bladdy fousands af em, let’s let it for New Zealand!)

    The 21st century is gonna be a hell of a rollercoaster ride, it’s barely gotten to the exciting bits yet, and there’s literally no purpose in depressio defeatism except to wallow in misery like a warm bath of piss.

    This is why the central figure in Western Civilisation is Christ the Redeemer – breaker of tombs and conqueror of death – and not, for eggs, Eeyore. KnowhatImeanarry? Sing as we go…

  37. I think among the blacks there is shadism which if referring to how dark or light you are.
    Isn’t the current problem integration, Muslim communities aren’t interested in integrating and marrying the locals.
    Vancouver has the highest rate of mixed race couples in Canada and it’s still less than 10% (9.6%), people tend to stick within groups

  38. Bloke in North Dorset

    Ummmm,

    “ Vancouver has the highest rate of mixed race couples in Canada and it’s still less than 10% (9.6%), people tend to stick within groups”

    I’m guessing but given the links with HK that will be mostly white/Chinese mixed race? When I was doing a lot of work in HK in the 90s and 00s the number of mixed appeared to be quite high.

  39. @Gamecock:

    The blacks are tools. Slaves to the Democrat Party in the U.S.”

    Steve Sailer calls this ‘the Coalition of the Fringes’, where the modern Democrat party consists of groups – Elite Whites, African-Americans, Asians, Mexicans, Muslims and Jews – who all dislike each other but are united by their intense hatred of White People.

    Despite comprising 13% of the country, they make up 25% of Covid-19 deaths.

    Lol. ‘Despite being 13% of the population, they commit 52% of murders’.

  40. You talk some sense SMFS but you also push absolute drivel such as

    ” Because socialism only kills when it comes with a non-White majority. ”

    As in the Soviet Union–or mono-culture (by violent enforcement) Red China?

  41. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks May 29, 2020 at 8:55 am – “As in the Soviet Union–or mono-culture (by violent enforcement) Red China?”

    Well OK, Communism always kills. But it is possible to have a socialist system short of communism which does not. As long as the population is White. Seattle has been run for decades by far left loons. It is a nice place to live. Virtually no city in the North-East is a decent place to live because virtually none of them have a White majority (or to be exact, one of them does and that one is the only livable city in the NE) Norway is a perfectly nice if very expensive place to live. So is Sweden. Hell, Britain in the 1970s was not too bad, really. Garbage strikes aside. But Jamaica under any government is not.

  42. If we had any desire for peace amongst the different ethnic groups the first thing we would do is deport all the skintellectuals – the ethnics who monetize anti white racism

    For example

    Yasmin Alibhai Brown
    Afua Hirsch

    The second thing would be to burn the BBC to the ground and to piss on its ashes.

  43. Rioting blacks in Minnesota looted a Target grocery store.

    As the Guardian whines about blacks not getting the nicer grocery stores.

    News flash for blacks in Minnesota: now, you will not only not get a Harris-Teeter, you will have NO grocery store. Destroy something to get better may work in Africa; it doesn’t here in the U.S. Someone has to put the money up for the store. There will be no new investment in a riot zone. Nor for the store you destroyed. I hope you had fun destroying your source of food.

  44. @ SMFS
    Blacks *can* be assimilated if they want to be and *if* the other blacks allow them to be without killing them. (Boko Haram …). The West Africans I knew at school and Oxford were assimilated (mind you, a couple of them could have flattened a racist with one punch so they may have encountered less opposition).
    On the other hand some whites refuse to allow other whites to be assimilated: when I moved to a converted attic in London in 1971 the guy who acted as elder brother to all the other flats and bedsitters in the house was a Northern Irish Catholic policeman who had to leave Ireland and come to London because his family disowned him when he joined the police.

  45. “Seattle has been run for decades by far left loons. It is a nice place to live.”

    It never occurred to me that SMFS was a multiply pierced guy with a tattooed neck and part of many polyamorous relationships

  46. But then SMFS thinks New Zealand is white. Hahaha!

    We are down here both far browner and far more immigrant than any European country. We’ll be under 50% (pure) white soon. Most of us have recent immigrant ancestry (my parents are Brits).

    But the Indians and Chinese etc integrate really fast. Half the Maori are effectively White in attitude (more as the old ones die off) and the Islanders, while undereducated, work hard.

    There are tensions, but then again there is basically no class tension, so overall people just get on with things.

    But White we ain’t.

  47. “On the other hand some whites refuse to allow other whites to be assimilated”

    Thanks for the reminder. There are millions of Yankees who think Southerners are inferior.

    The joke is on them.

  48. Irish, a tad of Peruvian …

    I’m Dutch (1688) [surname], English, Irish, Scots from NI

    Eyebrow hairs are 50/50 black/ginger, all other hair black

    @Roué le Jour
    +1

    The only people who care about black Londoners are white Londoners. Once they’ve gone, or lost power, the RoPs will get rid of the blacks, or enslave them

  49. @So Much For Subtlety
    +100

    Science and technology disproportionately depend on White people. Especially English speaking White people. Why that is I do not know

    Common law, freedom – “Why The Industrial Revolution Happened Here”
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7kzq6q

    @Gamecock May 28, 2020 at 11:04 am, RichardT
    +1

  50. So Much For Subtlety

    Gamecock May 29, 2020 at 3:53 pm – “News flash for blacks in Minnesota: now, you will not only not get a Harris-Teeter, you will have NO grocery store.”

    Somehow I suspect that White American taxpayers will be paying to insure that they do get a Target.

    Although I do enjoy the occasional defender of the LA riots and the like who complains about the lack of grocery stores. You do find them on the internet and places like Vox.

    john77 May 29, 2020 at 4:40 pm – “Blacks *can* be assimilated if they want to be and *if* the other blacks allow them to be without killing them. (Boko Haram …). The West Africans I knew at school and Oxford were assimilated”

    In very small numbers people have to adopt the culture of the people around them. In very large numbers, less so. And were they assimilated? Black America was much more assimilated to White values in 1950. Look what happened since. Turns out it was not actually assimilation.

    Every Black person knows they are Black. And people, especially those at the BBC and the Guardian, will remind them. They can turn it into a lucrative career if they get angry enough because White liberals are happy to be shaken down. This is not a viable long term strategy.

    Diogenes May 29, 2020 at 5:30 pm – “It never occurred to me that SMFS was a multiply pierced guy with a tattooed neck and part of many polyamorous relationships”

    Hey, don’t knock it if you have not tried it. And I am triggered by that “guy”. You assume homo sapiens as default which is specist. I like to think of my otherkin as a dragon.

    Chester Draws May 29, 2020 at 8:34 pm – “But the Indians and Chinese etc integrate really fast. Half the Maori are effectively White in attitude (more as the old ones die off) and the Islanders, while undereducated, work hard.”

    Are these statements true? Half Maori are effectively White? The other half are pretty effectively not. The Mongrel Mob is assimilation in a way I guess. But then again it isn’t. The Indians and Chinese, I think, hide their dislike of Whites in more subtle and intelligent ways. Open crime is not their way.

  51. So Much For Subtlety

    Pcar May 29, 2020 at 9:57 pm – “Common law, freedom – “Why The Industrial Revolution Happened Here””

    Jamaica has the common law. And freedom. I doubt that they could repair a diesel engine without importing parts and know-how.

  52. ‘Despite being 13% of the population, they commit 52% of murders’.

    There is even more granularity. Black females are no more murderous than anyone else. It is black males, 6.5% of the population, committing over half the murders.

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