To be human is to be transphobic apparently

At least it is if we’re going to accept a definition of transphobia as ludicrously wide as this:

Transphobia, like homophobia and biphobia, is an umbrella term to describe various negative attitudes towards people based on a single characteristic: who they love, or who they are.

You can be perfectly pleasant to trans, gay or bi people and still be transphobic, homophobic or biphobic; you can vote for equal marriage but feel uncomfortable around gay people, use trans people’s pronouns but think they’re mentally ill, accept that bisexual people exist but believe that bisexuality means promiscuity or sexual greed.

So too with homophobia, biphobia and even racism.

Having negative attitudes about other people is the basis of being human. We’re tribal animals. We work on ingroup and outgroup. That’s simply what we do and who we are. We also often enough have positive ideas about others but the negative is implicit in that, innit?

With a certain amount of training and civilisation we’re able to get to perfectly pleasant, tolerance. To insist that our not going further is a phobia is ludicrous. It’s a denial of how humans work.

And seriously, is someone really, really, trying to insist that thinking some other person is a nutter is a phobia?

27 thoughts on “To be human is to be transphobic apparently”

  1. “And just as people who are racists don’t like being called racist …”

    I wonder if people who are destructive narcissists like being called destructive narcissists.

    Easy, we can all play that game.

    On the other hand, if Gary just got on with her life and kept buggering on, like what the rest of us have to, rather than trying to make me feel bad for xirself feeling awful, I’d not bother to ask.

  2. Well, I’m a racist – though only in the sense that everyone is racist in one sense or another of that word.

    The question is whether you approve of, say, acts of violence directed at someone merely because of his race. I’m not a racist in that sense. How many people in the UK are? And how few of those are white?

  3. Dennis, Gender Solid

    As usual Marshall gets it wrong.

    Phobia suggests that one’s dislike of transsexuals, homosexuals and bisexuals is irrational (which is what an anxiety disorder is). Nothing could be further from the truth, as Marshall itself (there I am, being phobic!) proves. What contact I have had with the various “sexuals” in the past has always left me exasperated and annoyed. They simply will not allow you to accept them for what they are and move on… as Marshall demonstrates in her post. It is not enough to say “OK, Carrie, you’re a women. Let’s move on.” One must grovel as well. And then continue to grovel at regular intervals.

    Who needs that sort of shit? Man, woman or something in-between, what Carrie Marshall actually qualifies as, first and foremost, is a pain in the ass that most of us don’t want in an acquaintance or a friend.

    Marshall flatters herself… She’s basically a disagreeable person, and she has convinced herself that the reactions she gets for being disagreeable is rooted in hate and phobias, rather than the natural reaction of a normal person to someone acting like a jerk.

  4. I mentioned that today is the international day against homophobia

    I’m not afraid of my own house.

    biphobia

    I’m not afraid of my own Sopwith Camel.

    and transphobia

    I’m not afraid of my own radio.

    Transphobia, like homophobia and biphobia, is an umbrella term to describe various negative attitudes towards people based on a single characteristic

    Man whose entire (sad) existence obsessively revolves around a single (sad) characteristic to the extent he talks about little other than said (sad) characteristic has deduced that you are obsessed with the single (sad) characteristic.

    More projection than the IMAX, folks. Sad!

    And just as people who are racists don’t like being called racist, people who are transphobic (or homophobic, or biphobic) get very upset when people point it out.

    “Heh, them bigots don’t like being called names,” insists the rotund gentleman in the cheap frock.

    The transphobes’ equivalent is to claim to be protecting “sex-based rights” or battling “gender ideology”, terms that come from right-wing religious fundamentalism

    “So you see – according to the latest trans science – Germaine Greer is ISIS” explained the man in clown makeup.

    Most people who say they aren’t -phobic truly believe it: in the movie of their life, they’re certain that they are Luke Skywalker, not Darth Vader.

    I find most people’s lack of faith disturbing. Luke was an ungrateful little womp rat whose father’s only crime was wanting to spend more time with his only son (and genocide).

    Lord Vader literally did nothing wrong. He fought to protect the legitimate galactic government from terrorists, revanchist monarchists, weirdo religious cults that indoctrinate children and turn them into incels and make them wear silly robes, talking seafood, little green space goblins, gay robots, and sand.

    He did all this, despite being profoundly disabled and in constant pain. But did you ever think about how Vader must feel? No, you only think of yourself.

    The so-called “Death Star” was an instrument of peace and stability – an absolute triumph of engineering brought about by the golden age of prosperity and stability the Empire provided – and the people who blew it up are no better than the 9/11 hijackers.

    When is the international day of remembrance for the innocent victims of galactic Al Quaeda?

  5. 20 years ago, if somebody had called me racist, I would have vigorously defended my position and why my international role, diverse team, diverse sexual history, etc. would show that I clearly wasn’t racist.

    Nowadays I would simply say “Yeah, whatever”, because when everything is racist, nothing is.

  6. Does xer get paid for this? If Imperial can create a disease model and the Telegraph can make up crosswords using a computer, surely it’s possible to make up an opinion column. Just plug in the first assumption “I was waiting at the bus stop” / “At the ambassador’s reception” and let the algo do the rest.

  7. It seems like a very simple point that including someone in your out-group is the very definition of being prejudiced against them.

    Phobia is the unfortunate term that is used for certain specific prejudices. Homophobia is the direct parallel to sexism, and counting women as the outgroup is pretty definitionally sexist.

    As law, you should only be banned from acting on prejudice, ie discriminating when in a position of power, but as policy, it seems fair enough to say not merely that you should not discriminate, but that you should not want to.

    If you take the position, which they do, that discrimination is wrong and evil then asking people to stop wanting to do it is like asking people to stop wanting to do any other crime. To pick an example of a crime where there has been a public information campaign to change attitudes, look at drunk driving. It was illegal, but widely regarded as not being wrong as long as you don’t hit anything. Now it is widely regarded as being wrong, and many people have switched from only refraining out of fear of being caught to restraining themselves from a sincere desire not to do it.

    And as for “And seriously, is someone really, really, trying to insist that thinking some other person is a nutter is a phobia?”. Yes. Thinking that conservatism is a type of brain damage is pretty common in certain SJW circles, and that’s absolutely a form of prejudice.

  8. @phillip

    surely it’s possible to make up an opinion column

    Markov chains. There was a site that actually did this sort of thing – you start off with a few words of a sentence, and it comes out with all sorts of cromulent gibberish.

    My google-fu has deserted me for the moment, however…

  9. “and counting women as the outgroup is pretty definitionally sexist”

    Then let me be sexist..
    Because, however much I try to be polite, considerate, friendly, and generally supportive towards their very specific interests and idiosyncrasies, as a male I will never understand them.
    And that’s just for the 98% of females that are considered “normal”. I’m not counting the LoudBrigade Nutters.

    And frankly, I am convinced most females have the same Sexist attitude towards me and males in general..

    Funnily enough, with Spring in the Air, even with CoVid not-rampaging around….. I do see an awful lot of lovey-dovey couples ( fresh and Established ) around me. And a marked increase in swollen bellies and fresh sprogs… Seems that ubiquitous all-pervasive sexism isn’t that much of a hurdle…

  10. Agreed, Palppy. I expected the rebel scum to be hanged in the final episode of Star Wars. I wasn’t real deep into the Star Wars movies when I realized that Luke was a cheap ass terrorist. A cute one, which apparently overrides killing government employees.

  11. Not sure the mentally-ill ramblings of a fat bloke in a dress should come under ‘feminism’ Tim.

    I was going to suggest a moratorium on highlighting said mentalist outpourings, but as they’ve moved Steve to fresh heights then maybe stick with it.

  12. @Steve

    “Lord Vader literally did nothing wrong”

    And in his spare time helped young children to learn how to cross the road safely.

  13. “You can be perfectly pleasant to trans, gay or bi people and still be transphobic, homophobic or biphobic.”

    Because you are committing WrongThought. Human nature is a social construct, so it can be changed. We are all indefinitely plastic** – completely formed by the environment, upbringing and indoctrination – so you won’t miss your bourgeois freedoms. Welcome to the Future! *maniacal cackle*

    **yet if so, surely the alphabet soupers can adapt to their oppression by bourgeois mores…

  14. Does xer get paid for this? If Imperial can create a disease model and the Telegraph can make up crosswords using a computer, surely it’s possible to make up an opinion column. Just plug in the first assumption “I was waiting at the bus stop” / “At the ambassador’s reception” and let the algo do the rest.

    Markov chains. There was a site that actually did this sort of thing – you start off with a few words of a sentence, and it comes out with all sorts of cromulent gibberish.

    My google-fu has deserted me for the moment, however…

    There have been several. The Dada Engine was particularly good, and was the basis for things like the Postmodernism Generator

  15. This writer (avoiding pronoun entirely) may well have a preference for a third-person made-up word, but the article itself has no use for any. There are three ‘I’s in the first sentence alone. Later we get to the second person, as in telling ‘you’ what to do and how you are not only wrong in however you deal with trans etc, but that you can never be right. If you did whatever is requested (demanded, rather) the goalposts would be moved again. The intent is that you can never win or break even.

    Her pronouns are, as ever, I I I and me me me.

  16. …when I realized that Luke was a cheap ass terrorist. A cute one, which apparently overrides killing government employees.

    Plenty of British Government employees were killed by the American Rebel Alliance.

  17. Why to you keep slipping in these posts under “feminism”, Tim? This geezer-in-a-frock is not a woman. Nothing he opines about feminism is worth reading. List it as trannies or perverts of something. Better still ignore the cvnt. If more people ignored these assholes the world would be a better place.

  18. I like the way xe never breaks character. Always a w

    It takes real commitment to be that completely deluded.

    In he movie of xe’s life everyone cares enough to hate xe. Xe looms large like a big whiny Wookie freedom fighter.

    Really xe doesn’t attract a 2nd thought. Not even a bit actor. Just the boring ewok who shits everywhere….

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