You just try having a place only for cis- hets

It might even be beneficial if such places existed. But just try it:

Having a space where LGBTQ people can simply exist in their own skin and experience, without judgment or pressure to hide for the benefit of cisgender, heterosexual people, can be enormously beneficial.

But in recent months, queer and trans people have been feeling the loss of affirming LGBTQ spaces since cities and states began shutting down nonessential public spaces in mid-March.

Goose and gander comes to mind…

28 thoughts on “You just try having a place only for cis- hets”

  1. But in recent months, queer and trans people have been feeling the loss of affirming LGBTQ spaces

    Pretty sure private toilets are still ok?

  2. “Having a space where LGBTQ people can simply exist in their own skin and experience, without judgement or pressure to hide for the benefit of cisgender, heterosexual people, can be enormously beneficial.”

    Apparently “in your own house” is good enough for us but not good enough for the LGBTQbatmansymbol community. The really do suffer when they don’t have a public audience to flounce their various grievances onto.

  3. Emma thought that going off to Carleton College would be the beginning of a new life. The 18-year-old trans girl had struggled to come out in high school after repeated outings to her strict Italian Catholic parents in New Jersey.

    Not strict enough, obvs. Imagine failing so profoundly as a parent that your son wants to cut his dick off. I’m not sure if it’s better or worse than the everlasting shame of your offspring turning out to be a serial killer or a journalist.

    WWTSD? (What Would Tony Soprano Do?)

  4. the loss of affirming LGBTQ spaces

    Have these places disappeared into the ether? I appreciate there’s been a lockdown and ‘ting, but no-one is going to stop and indeed many welcome the alphabet soupies having their own special space.

    Of course this is an entirely confected problem. There are still plenty of gay bars and clubs. The real ‘issue’ here is that no-one wants to share space with the trannies, and who would blame them? If I preferred chap-on-chap or lass-on-lass action and visited places where those of like mind gathered, the last thing I’d want was the evening spoiled by some fat bearded mentalist in a dress.

  5. Dennis the Essential

    Have these places disappeared into the ether? I appreciate there’s been a lockdown and ‘ting, but no-one is going to stop and indeed many welcome the alphabet soupies having their own special space.

    Entirely true. But to admit it would mean you’d have one less thing to whine about.

    And Lord knows, if Vox couldn’t whine about stupid shit, they’d have to try to write informed articles on grown-up stuff (like how to survive the lockdown with no job or income), and nobody wants that, do they?

  6. ’ She thought college would become her salvation and chose the liberal arts school of about 2,000 students in Northfield, Minnesota, because of a visit, during one of her tours, to the on-campus LGBTQ center.

    Choosing your college not for its academic record, but for its pandering to identity politics, is not a smart move, is it?

    Unless you want to write for Vox, I suppose.

  7. JuliaM – Dunno if there’s any effective treatment for transgenderism yet, but if someone is dealing with an 18 year old son who wants to wear dresses and be called Emma, sending him to an open air funny farm 1,000 miles away isn’t going to help the kid be normal.

    But it probably doesn’t do mentally not-ill kids any good neither.

    HE and its weirdo oysters-and-snails enthusiasts need sacking in the same way Corinth and Carthage did. Time to put the Classical back in Education.

  8. OT, but for other social inequities of seismic importance:

    “The Kidsrights Foundation on Tuesday published its annual rankings of children’s rights in 182 countries with Iceland scoring top for the second year running followed by Switzerland, Finland and Sweden.

    The UK fared poorly, ranking in 169th place behind countries including Sudan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. The country’s poor treatment of Roma and Gypsy children was criticised while the UK’s anti-terrorism strategy, Prevent, was found to have a stigmatising effect on Muslim children.”

    Just in case your jaw is on the floor right now, there is a gloss to this:

    “The index is not an absolute ranking of countries where children have the best life but nations are scored relative to their capacity to implement children’s rights.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/26/uk-behind-yemen-and-sudan-on-global-index-of-childrens-rights-report-finds

  9. @ JuliaM and Steve
    I don’t think I know many LGQBT+ but the one (a friend of my elder son) that I am sure about chose a good university (Manchester with a year at Berlin) based on academic qualities rather than any “gender-based” “values” and got two good degrees.
    Xe in the article chose a college based on various criteria, of which the quality of academic education was only one. Chris, my (son’s) LGBTQ+ whatever friend chose to take a degree at a good university (Manchester with a year at Berlin), willing to put up with the social disadvantages in order to benefit from the superior tuition.
    Is Chris brighter than I? I don’t know: xe is certainly better at xe’s subject and less good at mine. Social context: fifty years ago Chris would have been regarded at “weird” at Oxford and allowed to go xe’s own way unless that offended someone else

  10. The best bit is that it was local government that defined these spaces as ‘non-essential’. Local government are finally getting some balls, probably due to the number being cut off and going free atm.

  11. Thanx dcardno. I was fighting the horrible urge to click on the link. You’ve drawn its sting.

  12. If these people think they’re oppressed because of whether they prefer sausage to taco, they should go to a country where there actually isn’t tolerance.
    That’d give them a shock.

    Maybe we should all chip in and buy one of them a ticket to some of the more, ah, deprived areas of say, Russia. Let’s see how they react to Harold Bishop in a frock. It might give them some perspective.

  13. john77 – is xe a he xe or a she xe tho?

    dcardno – This one is from “Katelyn” Burns, a completely different chubby, balding white guy with kids who decided to become a True and Honest woman in middle age.

    This week, Gary is mostly positing that the LGB Alliance are the REAL homophobes, and abortion is a right-wing Christian plot. Must be Tuesday.

  14. The Meissen Bison

    Steve: Time to put the Classical back in Education.

    Yes! Reading between the Lions.

  15. @ Steve
    I don’t know the definitions that you are using (he whole set-up is bewhildering) so I hope that to say that Chris was chrisyened “Christopher” helps.

  16. Steve said:
    “The 18-year-old trans girl had struggled to come out in high school after repeated outings to her strict Italian Catholic parents in New Jersey.”

    “repeated outings”? What, every Sunday lunch? Mum, Dad, I need to tell you something – I’m gay (or whatever)!” “Yes dear, you told us last week. Your soup’s going cold.

    Or did she come out as something different every week?

  17. As a parent I recognise this “I hate you! I didn’t ask to be born!” rant as typical adolescent behaviour.
    As a patriarch of cis-gender normativity I recognise that this isn’t my fight. It’s a playground spat between people who are happy to indulge their minority sexual appetites and those who get off on surgery. Not my affair if they all go private.

    Parallel lions.

  18. @BraveFart

    The index is not an absolute ranking of countries where children have the best life but nations are scored relative to their capacity to implement children’s rights

    What the heck does that mean?

    Sounds like the same bollocks that ranks NHS near top – patients treatmen and outcomes irrelevant

    Youtube closes Safe Spaces for exploited & oppressed anti-green community
    YouTube Removes Michael Moore-Produced Documentary Planet of the Humans

    Planet of the Humans available on bitchute and Zooqle

  19. Children have no rights. They are slaves to their parents.

    Small, private colleges in the U.S. can struggle. Creating a cult to appeal to some off kilter high-schoolers might be a good business plan. “Emma” is a cult member. Vox supports the cult.

  20. The real meat:

    Queer bars, LGBTQ centers, and affirming sexual and specialized health clinics are closed because of the pandemic. Pride celebrations all over the country, and the world, have been canceled,

    IoW, the world has ceased to revolve around them and their ‘Identity’, therefore they are being oppressed.

    According to 2015 data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, lesbian, gay, and bisexual people were twice as likely (39.1 percent to 17.1 percent) as heterosexual adults to have used illicit drugs within the past year. Additionally, a 2013 US Census Bureau survey found that a higher percentage of LGBTQ adults between ages 18 and 64 reported past-year binge drinking, which was defined as consuming five or more alcoholic beverages in one sitting, than heterosexual adults.

    It’s funny that when poor white people are killing themselves with drugs and alcohol, the vox types think it’s a hilarious and much deserved punishment for being, well, poor and white yet when it’s our good-with-colours chums , it’s a national emergency.

  21. As a parent I recognise this “I hate you! I didn’t ask to be born!” rant as typical adolescent behaviour.

    Indeed, we’ve all either faced this as parents or been their as adults. As parents the only way through this is out the other side, preferably without any permanent physical, mental or reputational damage being done to either party.

    Sometimes, trying not to give your “wilful teen” a good slap is a real struggle.

    As for a cure for these mentalists, they would scream, bitch and moan (before calling the police probably) that “There is nothing wrong with me”, but there is some evidence to suggest that a lot of them have Aspergers, are somewhere on the Autism spectrum or have body dysmorphia which (while it cannot be cure) can be treated with serotonin-reuptake inhibitors (SSRI’s)

    A big part of being a teen is a search for personal identity, in the past it used to mean which group you associated with at school or what genre of music you listened to. The problem is that some teens have now jacked into being an SJW or Trans as being an identity, which it isn’t, it’s more like a cult of conformity.

    Glad I was a teenager in the 80’s, not today though.

  22. John Galt said:
    “A big part of being a teen is a search for personal identity, in the past it used to mean which group you associated with at school or what genre of music you listened to. The problem is that some teens have now jacked into being an SJW or Trans as being an identity, which it isn’t, it’s more like a cult of conformity.”

    Aren’t most teenage identities a “cult of conformity”? Has been for decades. It’s about belonging to a group, which often means conforming and differentiating yourself from those outside the group.

    As you say, “the only way through this is out the other side, preferably without any permanent physical, mental or reputational damage”. But there seem to be two problems with the modern groups.

    First, it’s more likely to cause permanent damage, particularly physical for a sex change, but perhaps also reputational in online social media days.

    Second (and wider), a lot of these things seem to be more difficult to grow out of (or perhaps easier to stay in) after adolescence. The sex orientation and the SJW thing (and, for that matter, the hipster nonsense) seem to last a lot longer than, say, a goth or skateboarding phase used to.

  23. They last longer because the cult tells them that they are doing good.

    Riding a skateboard can be fun; saving the planet is a high calling.

    The Lefty press continually reinforces the idea that they are doing good. The press’s objective is the destruction of Western Civilization. Sexual orientation is of no actual interest to them. LGBT, SJW, and climate activists are disposable tools of the Left.

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