A fun thing to complain about, no?

As groceries board up amid protests, food inequality worsens for communities of color
“What we’re advocating for is a place that is not going to close the doors when the community needs them most”

Yes, it’s Salon, so the article is as stupid as you think it will be.

35 thoughts on “A fun thing to complain about, no?”

  1. ’ “There are criminals exploiting this occasion of sincere protest to create destruction and to steal from a business that so many community members rely on for their most basic needs,” Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer said in a subsequent press conference. “So come on, folks. We’re better than this.”’

    So what are you doing about it?

    Are you making citizens arrests of these mysterious criminals (who must all be from out of town, I guess..)?

    Are you taking photos and handing them to law enforcement to apprehend?

    Or are you just expecting the police you denigrate constantly to stop it for you?

  2. Mayor and community do nothing to stop rioting.

    Food stores are looted, damaged and most likely closed for good.

    Mayor and community start squealing.

    Salon writer ignores the principle of cause and effect.

  3. So set up a grocery store with cast-iron doors, cast-iron window grilles and armed guards in body armour. Or you could suggest that the “community” refrains from wrecking and looting grocery stores …
    There is a one word description of a company that keeps reopening its stores in black communities after they are wrecked and looted – “bankrupt”.

  4. This situation is so old and so common there is a chapter in Walter Blocks original “Defending the Undefendable” book about ghetto merchants who charge high prices –because they have to cover the costs of extra danger and the shop burning etc.

  5. Maritime Barbarian

    The book “The Likes of Us” describes the white working class in Britain, especially London south of the river.
    A story is told how in 1960 a supermarket was planned in Southwark. Design included big windows. Planners thought about the risk of vandalism.
    A trawl through the records showed that had not been a single case of vandalism of a shop window since 1910.
    That’s “community”.

  6. “Don’t pee in your mess kit.” – Anonymous

    ‘food inequality worsens’

    I’ve heard of food insecurity. This ‘food inequality’ is new. I suspect Ashlie Stevens isn’t up to date on CM talk. She’s white, so she struggles writing for communities of color.

  7. At an early stage in the lockdown I started trawling the more obscure tv channels and came across something youth-orientated called Vice.

    One programme, hosted by a large and engaging Canadian chef, reported on a different kind of food inequality namely the extraordinarily high price of basic foodstuffs which were flown into remote areas of Alaska. Putting the obvious consequences of living in inaccessible places aside it was an entertaining look at an unresentful community making the best of a challenging situation. A marked contrast to those people of Louisville described in Salon.

  8. Then the grocery store closes for good and the people live in a fresh food desert.

    Consequence of actions.

  9. I read of a lower east side Detroit food/booze shop last night. All staff behind bulletproof windows, armed with Glocks, magnums and AR15s. Restocking of shelves was done when closed and only with an armed guard and everyone wearing bullet proof vests. It has been like that since the 1960s riots. Since the 1960s over 100 shopkeepers have been murdered in the lower east side of Detroit. No bijou condos for Salon writers.
    This is the most dangerous area of America’s 3rd (only 3rd!) most crime ridden city. It has however improved since the 1980s.
    FYI Toxteth, Liverpool off licences used to be behind heavy wire security grilles in the 1970s, with just a gap big enough to pass a bottle or a few tins. Dope was openly smoked in pubs and on the streets, and everything had fallen off the back of a lorry. I enjoyed 3 years as a student in the Wild Northwest.

  10. Talking of complaints, ‘advocating for’ is very annoying.

    The riots & arson remind me of the African tribe who killed all their cattle so the spirits would then get rid of their white oppressors. Looks like African Americans are still making the same mistakes.

  11. In 2006 I drove from Stockholm to Gothenburg and stopped for petrol, there was a hole-in-the-wall where to pay and the employee was behind a heavy-duty grille, the whole set up looked like fort knox. I could hear the sound of ululation in the distance. Boy was I happy to get onto the ferry and back to blighty.

  12. “So set up a grocery store with cast-iron doors, cast-iron window grilles…”

    FYI, john77, cast iron’s only slightly less fragile than eggshells. You could go through that lot with hammer quicker than unlocking the door. Weird ideas people come out with.

  13. The demand to be treated equally delivered by stupid mob.

    They will get less equality. And no food.

    The poor dears. The Leftwaffe is so patronizing, but they cynically know they will get away with it.

  14. @ bis
    It’s what the rioters will decide not to try that matters. Cast iron actually looks tougher than steel (hence all the fancy gates to millionnaires’ houses) – and most door locks won’t stand up to a kick from the heel of a good work boot.

  15. John77, those special euro locks are quite good, and what is this obsession in the UK for having the front door open inward?

    Make the door open outward and get an Abloy scandi (Swedish, pthyi! pthyi!) lock would be my recommendation.

  16. Breitbart:

    ‘NFL Players Ask League to Condemn ‘Systematic Oppression of Black People,’ Admit Wrongs in Ending Anthem Protests’

    This is the league where black players make millions of dollars a year.

    No grocery stores in Minneapolis is systematic oppression of black people. Now kneel.

  17. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    Is there anyone here who can speak or write the term “food inequality” without laughing?

  18. I heard no complaints of systematic oppression of black people from the “Black community” when state governments locked them down for Covid.

    Gotta hand it to ’em, they sure torched the lockdown in the big cities. No more Covid oppression for them.

  19. @ Gamecock
    And cheap grocery stores in downtowns that can’t afford wrought iron can buy cast iron at a fraction of the price.

  20. The Meissen Bison

    Dennis – Anyone who has been blessed with bringing up more than one child will be familiar with food inequality whereby one child has a tantrum because the other appears to have more icecream. The phenomenon is obviously not restricted to icecream and can also be occasioned in the parental distribution of foie gras or lobster and its inverse has frequently been known to arise in the matter of Brexit (formerly Brussels) sprouts.

  21. Dennis, Legend of the Parish

    Dennis – Anyone who has been blessed with bringing up more than one child will be familiar with food inequality whereby one child has a tantrum because the other appears to have more icecream.

    OK, but does anyone other than Newmania’s children actually call it that.

    I’d imagine the little fartlings saying something akin to “Bobby got more ‘n me!”, as opposed to “Father, I’m the victim of food inequality as it relates to ice cream.”

  22. john77. You might not have noticed but they’ve been selling steel aperture security systems for decades. There’s a whole industry surrounding it. For a shopkeeper, they’re a phone call away
    Home security in the UK is remarkably lax. Especially for a place has so many house break-ins. The main door to my apartment is steel with a locking system shoots bolts into both sides of the jamb. We also have steel persianas (roller blinds) on the outside of all the windows. (Mine are electric). And we’re four floors up This is pretty well ubiquitous in Spain. I had much the same in France. Houses with shutters are the rule there, rather than the exception.
    For some reason. the English think cheap softwood frames, rimlocks & 4mm plain float are the height of security.

  23. In remotest tuscany I sleep with a loaded s&w 357 magnum under my pillow. Because I can.

  24. @ bis
    I was talking about security for a small grocery store catering to a black neighbourhood. Yes, I am aware that steel doors have been available in the UK for decades – thirty years ago someone was telling me that they were a supergrowth story, especially for homeowners in dodgy parts of London, but they never really caught on.

  25. We also have steel persianas (roller blinds) on the outside of all the windows. (Mine are electric). And we’re four floors up This is pretty well ubiquitous in Spain. I had much the same in France. Houses with shutters are the rule there, rather than the exception.

    But isn’t that as much about controlling the temperature during the heat of summer? As I recall from my time in Europe, the rule was to open the blinds during the early morning when it was cool to get the temperature in the house down then close them to 1/2 or 1/3rd open when the sun rose above the rooftops. Reverse in the cool of the evening.

    Not exactly air conditioning, but it did reduce the temperature somewhat.

  26. I can see, john77, you’re experiences don’t extend to grocery stores in black areas. Generally, they’re like fortresses. But fortresses have to have gates. And grocery stores doors to let customers buy stuff. Not that bothers non paying customers, overly much. Reversing a hefty car into them opens them quite well.

    Here we have exactly air-conditioning. But not in Lille. Still had shutters, though. Driving through French villages in the summer dawn can be an eerie experience for a newly arrived Brit. Hardly a window to be seen. They look boarded-up & abandoned.

  27. England went through some sort of charmed innocence from the late Victorianas. Buildings before that usually had shutters. Although sashes required them to be on the inside. But the builders of those gerry-built terraced slums you like to think of as des-res’es economised on everything they could get away with & left them out.

  28. @PF
    Fire Doors must open outwards by push. Other doors may open inwards. For businesses ‘push to enter’ is more welcoming

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