A most fun and interesting project

All we need is a moneybags to fund it.

So, some of the most vocal BLM commentators are of recent African extraction themselves. That’s fine. It’s just that the issue of slavery in Africa, by Africans, is worth addressing.

Off the top of my head I can thing of peeps of Sudanese, Nigerian and Ghanaian – partial – extraction who tell us that slavery is Britain’s irremediable sin. Wouldn’t it be fun to have a look back at the ancestry of those African parts of their families and work out how far back the slavery connection is? Not suffering it but inflicting it?

After all, Yoruba and Asante – and Muslim Sudanese – were hardly unknown as participants in the slave trade now, were they?

24 thoughts on “A most fun and interesting project”

  1. Oh, perhaps there’s data from British records: I’ve just remembered there’s a Kipling short story with the attempted (sometimes successful) elimination of enslavement and slave-trading in British West Africa while the French tolerated it as the background.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    Slavery is only bad if White people do it. Read Wikipedia on slavery. They will defend African slavery.

    Most educated Africans are likely to have been recent slave owners. Especially Muslim ones. It is not the Yoruba in Nigeria but the Sokoto Caliphate – which was sort of Fulani on top of Hausa.

    They were probably the largest slave society in the world in terms of both proportion of population – maybe as high as half the entire population – and in terms of numbers – several million anyway. About the same as the Confederacy.

    But it is cool when they do it.

  3. John Boyega of shitty Star Wars sequels fame was doing one of his habitual Twitter tirades against “racism” the other day.

    A black African guy replied that he agreed racism was bad, he split up with a girlfriend because she hated white people.

    To which our noble thesp furiously explained that “racism” means “stuff white people do”. And he should know, having suffered an education at the Westminster City School.

    So it’s pointless to try to shame these people or their loony left white allies with double standards, hypocrisy, or sins of the father. That shit only works on white conservatives.

  4. Do they have good ancestry records in those parts of the world?

    Anyway, we all know that slavery happened across many cultures, the transatlantic trade was large but not at all unique or even the biggest.

    No-one seems to be protesting agains the Ottomans or Arabs, for example, who were just as bad. Nor, as you point out, the West African slavers who provided each and every transatlantic slave.

    Indeed slavery was only abolished in the Middle East in the 1960s (Saudi and Yemen, under Western pressure),

    Back in Africa, it was banned in Mauritania only in 2007 (the third attempt, admittedly).

    The Global Slavery Index says that North Korea, Eritrea, Burundi and CAR have the highest amount of slaves right now despite supposed illegality. Africa and the Arab States are the worst ‘continents’, whilst Europe is the best. The Americas is middling just because the US is lumped in with everyone else – don’t know why they do that.

    But no-one’s protesting outside their embassies… I mean, who cares about real slaves right now when you can complain about statues and 150 years old ethnic grievances?

  5. The Royal navy established up the West Africa Squadron in 1808 which over the next 50 years captured over 1,600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. Most freed slaves were returned to Africa at the RN station in Sierra Leone where they chose to stay rather than returning to their home lands as they feared being re-enslaved.

    At the height of its operations, 1 in 6 RN ships was part of this squadron.

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    john77 June 10, 2020 at 9:49 am – “But will any Africans reveal the truth to a white researcher?”

    I remember a National Geographic from waaay back in the day. They were in Ghana or some other third world shithole. The journalist felt compelled to comment when one African said to another African “Shut up, my grandfather used to own your grandfather”.

    They do not seem to have a problem with it.

    Remember – the first slave owner in what became the US was an African-born Black.

  7. It would be delicious to find that David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch were descended from black slavers…

  8. Well well well, it turns out that the overwhelming majority of current slave owners, now, in 2020, are

    drum roll


  9. It really doesn’t matter. The establishment has surrendered. History is being erased before our eyes. Boris is nowhere to be seen.

  10. JuliaM,

    “It really doesn’t matter. The establishment has surrendered. History is being erased before our eyes. Boris is nowhere to be seen.”

    That’s The Establishment, though. That’s what they are. And it doesn’t matter what name a party has. It’s just a name. You have to fight The Establishment. Use court cases, build parties, build campaigns, undermine what’s there.

    Don’t expect anyone in the Conservative Party to do anything without a hard push. I spent some time as a member and no-one cares about any of the sort of ideological values of either the old social or fiscal conservatism. You have to either force them to your way, or aim to replace them.

    But this stuff can win. One problem I have with much of the the right in this country is that they don’t do anything. There’s a case being fought regarding Down’s Syndrome and abortions. I’m actually in favour of legal abortions, but even I think it’s wrong to abort after 24 weeks for that reason. The amount raised so for the legal fees is £42K. Jolyon’s leftie Good Law project can easily raise £100K for a case against Uber.

  11. Bloke On M4 But this stuff can win.

    Indeed. and we have seen, time and time again, where it leads.

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    jgh June 10, 2020 at 1:27 pm – “The UK almost went to war with Belgium over what King Leopold was doing in The Congo.”

    Allegedly doing.

  13. About 4,000 years ago, roughly two million Israelites were liberated by God from their African (Egyptian) slave masters. You can read about it in the book of Exodus. The escape was a famous episode in world history.

  14. 2,000,000 Israelites, 4,000 years ago?

    Pre-modern* demography is difficult but, reelly?

    Wiki – here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates_of_historical_world_population#Before_1950 – seems to suggest the world’s population back then, the entire world’s population, was between 27,000,000 and 72,000,000 …

    My guess is that Exodus bloke was about as reliable as those ‘activists’ who estimate turnout at their Central London whingefest at around the one million mark.

    * in fact, for large chunks of the world, you need to get about 200 years post-pre-modern before it becomes little more than clever guesswork.

  15. It would be delicious to find that David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch were descended from black slavers…

    Afua Hirsch is black and Jewish.

    It would be the mother of all cosmic ironies, if her Jewish ancestors were the Jewish slave traders supplying the new World.

    Even Better if her black ancestors were the slaves being traded.

  16. Another fun and interesting project:
    What proportion of black peeps killed by the po-po in the US were in places with D mayors? Given the places where there are a lot of black peeps tend to swing heavily D, it’s going to be most. But how many deaths of black folk at the hands of cops per black head of population, D areas vs R areas?
    If I was a betting man, I’d put money on D being much higher.

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