Grime artist Wiley – with his half a million followers – unleashed a tirade of undiluted antisemitism on to Twitter.’ Photograph: Ollie Millington/Redferns

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The main image on this article was changed on 29 July 2020. An earlier version incorrectly used an image of the rapper Kano.

Apparently they all look the same to The Guardian.

19 thoughts on “Snigger”

  1. In solidarity with my Party boycotting twatter for 24 hours, I’m boycotting the telephone company because they don’t stop people saying bad things, I’m boycotting the Royal Mail cos they don’t stop people saying bad things, I’m boycotting Hewlett Packard because they don’t stop people printing bad things, and I’m boycotting Vicking Direct because they don’t stop people using their paper to write bad things.

  2. At least when the Beatles got their gongs 90% of the population knew who they were. Who the frick had heard of Wiley before all this fuss blew up?

    The only Wiley I knew was Gerald, the pen name of Ronnie Barker.

  3. That Twitter needs to take further action is beyond doubt. On a daily basis, the site pulses with Islamophobia, anti-blackness, antisemitism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and every other form of bigotry

    He makes Twitter – the social media version of a Continuity Remain rally in a lesbian womyn’s vegan fairtrade disabled yoga cooperative in Hackney – sound metal as fuck.

  4. The chap ‘described Jewish people as “cowards” and “snakes”’.

    To give him his due that’s proper, vile, unambiguous anti-semitism: no rubbish here about being accused of anti-semitism because he’s made some disobliging comment about the policies of the Israeli government.

    Declaration of uninterest: I have no views about the policies of the Israeli government; not my problem.

  5. Watching the cricket yesterday on sky I was infuriated by the blm puff pieces shown during breaks in play.

    Michael Holding, a man I revere for his bowling but nothing else, was tearfully pleading with us not to say All Lives Matter because of something along the lines of, “white lives have always mattered, that is not open to question”.

    To quote a formerly great publication “pass the sick bag Alice”.

  6. pleading with us not to say All Lives Matter because of something along the lines of, “white lives have always mattered, that is not open to question”.

    What about brown lives? Do they not matter at all?

  7. The Meissen Bison

    Mr Womby: The only Wiley I knew was Gerald, the pen name of Ronnie Barker.

    The only one I know is Wile E. Coyote

  8. Steve: @Lemmy would have been good back in the day, but then again he wouldn’t have been seen dead on there. More of a 4Chan denizen.

  9. “There is something profoundly uncomfortable about this debate, however. Twitter reflects hatred that is embedded in the nation’s social fabric as much as it incubates it. ”
    Yes Owen m’lad. This is something you should take notice of. There are a lot of people find pansy boys like you, distasteful. You should have learnt from your experience outside that Kings Cross pub. Go away & STFU.

  10. Fewer and fewer articles in the Guardian allow comments; it was the only thing, beyond the OBO, that I liked about that failing rag.

  11. “white lives have always mattered, that is not open to question”

    Somebody should tell Cambridge University or that guy who lost his job and got monstered by the media.

    Tbf, we’re just seeing what was previously latent hostility towards white people become blatant because it’s now safe and even rewarding to do so. A lot of black and brown folks deeply resent whities over stuff both real and imagined, and the competitive victimhood drama of lefty progressivism just fuels more race hate.

    It’s all a bit Volkischer Beobachter, but in broken English innit.

    TG – I’m dreaming of a Lemmy/Ecks tag team.

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    dearieme July 29, 2020 at 10:57 am – “To give him his due that’s proper, vile, unambiguous anti-semitism: no rubbish here about being accused of anti-semitism because he’s made some disobliging comment about the policies of the Israeli government.”

    Indeed. But that is not the issue. Because Black people can’t be racist can they? As we are told racism requires a power dynamic – hence all those Arab countries that promptly became Judenfrei after independence to the cheers of the Left including the Jewish Left. Algeria for instance. So France got Yves Saint Laurent but also Derrida and BHL. A bad deal that one.

    So he is unambiguously punching up as the fashionable cant goes. Mr Wiley is of the Afro-Caribbean persuasion as far as I can tell. Which means he is attacking from below. The Jewish community is not poor or oppressed. He should be allowed to do it.

    So I could go the ambiguously anti-semitic route by pointing out that Jews clearly wield a lot of power and can even make the Left denounce Black people. After all, see who you cannot criticise – those are the people with real power.

    But I don’t think I will do that. Even if it close to being true. I would say that for White people the prime moral disaster is the Holocaust. So everyone better be nice to Jews. There is enormous reserves of good will to Jews and dislike of people who dislike them. But for Black people, the prime atrocity is slavery. Mr Wiley was on one side of that. A lot of White people, including a lot of Jews, were on the other. So no doubt there is no immediate sympathy – and a lot of “we are the real victims here” sort of one upmanship.

    Still it does have amusing side effects. As in the Hillary Swank film Freedom Writers where Ms Swank plays a nice Jewish teacher who takes over a very vibrant class of gang bangers and teaches them that Jews are the real victims.

  13. A lot of black and brown folks deeply resent whities over stuff . . .

    Yup, built the modern world, ended slavery, shared wealth and health, generally encouraged black and brown folks to live long and prosper. That shit really pisses them off.

    . . . Continuity Remain rally in a lesbian womyn’s vegan fairtrade disabled yoga cooperative in Hackney . . .

    Stealing that.

  14. @SMFS: “He should be allowed to do it.” Indeed: free speech and all that – let him advertise his arseholiness if he so desires

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    dearieme July 29, 2020 at 2:07 pm – “Indeed: free speech and all that – let him advertise his arseholiness if he so desires”

    I mean by the Guardian’s rules he should be allowed to do it. Because he is punching up – attacking a richer and more powerful community.

    It is only racism when you punch down. Their rules. Until yesterday

  16. Dennis: Oppressor, Warmonger, Capitalist and Consumer of Petroleum Products

    That Twitter needs to take further action is beyond doubt. On a daily basis, the site pulses with Islamophobia, anti-blackness, antisemitism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and every other form of bigotry, often directly targeted at individuals. As Alex Hern, the Guardian’s technology editor notes, Twitter’s policy in this area has gradually evolved from a commitment to free speech fundamentalism, which regarded racism as a bad opinion to be challenged, to a commitment to upholding minority rights in the face of illegitimate hate speech.

    That commitment could extend to banning a fair whack of Labour’s MPs for antisemitism, couldn’t it Owen? How many times did you vote for Jezza and his lot?

    But it is a tech company that is “fundamentally underfunded in Silicon Valley terms”, says Hern, and is slow to develop new ideas, let alone clamp down on hate speech. This doesn’t mean Twitter should not invest in more moderators and take swifter action, particularly in a case like this one, which was so egregious because of the size of Wiley’s platform combined with the intensity and duration of his racist tirade.

    Twitter’s market cap is $29.02 billion at the moment. Twitter is not “fundamentally underfunded”, and never has been. And you look at the frequency and speed with which Twitter suspends and bans conservatives, one can come to the conclusion that Twitters lack of “swifter action” (when it comes to non-conservative hate speech) is willful.

  17. @John

    Sky UK is competing with BBC, C4, ITV & C5 to win “Most woke broadcaster of the UK 2020”

    It’s working well: anecdotal evidence shows 7/10 Sky F1 subscribers have cancelled

    Plank Of The Week with Alex Philips (Brexit Party)
    – Lewis Hamilton
    https://youtu.be/TXkccTUfOmk?t=1148

    How can a hero like Lewis Hamilton get it so wrong?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0gW6QbxcI

    Hamilton was privileged from the start, he’s always had the best equipment, he was taken under McLaren’s wing at the age of 10 so it’s ridiculous to say that he’s ever had to struggle
    Lewis Hamilton is disliked because he’s a knob for Politicising F1 Not because of colour

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