Yes, OK, fair enough

Wealthy men are nearly twice as likely to develop high blood pressure than men who have a lower income, a study has revealed.

Higher household income was more likely to make men drink alcohol every day and be obese in contrast to wealthy women who were more likely to engage in healthier behaviour.

More than one in four adults in the UK have high blood pressure, with an estimated one billion people living with it worldwide. High blood pressure is the leading global cause of premature death.

Except we do have a problem here. Wealthier people live longer than poorer people – in the UK at least.

Meaning that either these observations don’t apply to the UK or that high blood pressure isn’t all that much of a problem.

25 thoughts on “Yes, OK, fair enough”

  1. Correlation is not cause. Higher household income doesn’t necessarily make men drink or become fat, although they may well be correlated. Perhaps fat drinkers are better at their jobs? 🙂

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    The problem with all health advice is that the entire industry ultimately is based on weird religious cults that are unhealthily obsessed with bowel movements. Some of those are Indian in origin and do yoga. Some of them are fringe Christian and have given us corn flakes. But weird and obsessed with their bowel movements they were and so the industry has remained.

    They need people with high blood pressure to be sick because it justifies their weak acceptance of vegetarianism – and hence their interest in bowel movements. It is a morality play writ large.

    Maybe high blood pressure is good for you. I do not know. There may be other factors. Being wealthy means high social status. The pleasure that brings is likely to off set a lot of other problems. Wealthy means you can choose – civil servants are healthier the higher they rise partly because they have more control.

    But I would point to the thin wives. Higher status men might be fat but they point out they have thin wives. Wives who aim to please in other words. Wives who are happy with their husbands and want them to like them back.

    That is something worth living for. Think what the working class gets.

  3. High blood pressure is manageable and, in wealthy men, probably correlates to intensity of workload/life related to high achievers rather than from being fat and generally unhealthy. Maybe a higher household income correlates to intelligence of occupants, to people that are more likely and/or better able to look after themselves.

  4. Higher household income was more likely to make men drink alcohol every day.

    This is utterly wrong.

    Higher household income allows men to drink alcohol every day.

    My alcohol consumption has risen as I can afford it. I’ve always wanted to be able to drink daily, and now I can. So I do.

    SMFS: very high status men tend not to be fat. I think it is because they also tend to be smart. Or get to be photographed often. One or the other.

  5. The study relates *only* to Japan. It is obvious that the correlation between obesity and wealth in England is negative.
    Last time I looked “High Blood Pressure” wasn’t even in the list of the top causes of premature death. Heart disease, cancer, stroke, COPD, respiratory infections, diarrhoeal diseases.
    The author is doing a bait and switch. High blood pressure *may* contribute to heart disease but it is far from the only cause.

  6. Let’s keep in mind the possibility that there is an agenda behind this assertion and the data is not necessarily all that reliable. There are plenty of poor fat people who drink. Obesity is not much of a factor in my middle-income -class circles.

  7. I was under the impression that the main breeding-population of land-whales was to be found amongst the lumpenproletariat… It certainly is where I am.

    Also, what has happened to “high blood pressure” is very similar to what’s been done with BMI (and a few other parameters) in that they’ve been adjusted in a direction that suddenly makes a previously-normal sector of the population “at risk”, e.g. when the upper-bound of “normal BMI” was quietly adjusted down from 27 to 25, hundreds of thousands of folk suddenly became “overweight” overnight.

    Re blood pressure… Nowadays anything over 120/80 seems to be cause for “concern” and I was quietly surprised and amused recently when reading Ian Fleming’s “Thunderball” (written in 1961) to see that James Bond’s medical report stated that his “blood pressure (is) a little raised at 160/90″. My GP would be having kittens if my BP was that high! 🙂

  8. It would be nice to see a large scale study of the link between blood pressure and health outcomes.
    Ditto with fat content and health outcomes, the relationship between BMI and fat content, and the relationship between type of diet and weight/health outcomes.
    I don’t expect any of that because it would put the issue to bed and thus deprive many people of the living they make pontificating about the size of the problem, the nature of the cure, and the latest fad.

  9. Report on BBC website today shows the terrible terrible growth in the %age of Britons “Overweight or Obese”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53546151
    and how bad that is because “nearly 8% of critically ill patients in intensive care units with the virus have been morbidly obese, compared with 2.9% of the general population”.
    So before they changed the the meaning of the word we had 2.9% obese – after the create a new definition it suddenly becomes around one-quarter of the population (including all second-row forwards).

  10. “Higher household income was more likely to make men drink alcohol every day”

    Is this a social change? I thought back in the 20th century it used to be the working classes who were more likely to drink regularly. Or perhaps it was just them that drank more in total (lots on Friday / Saturday night) rather than drank daily.

    (interesting that they claim higher income “makes” men drink every day; it’s not our fault then)

  11. Dunno, John77. I heard the average dress size in Britain is 16.

    Been a number of years, but I used to hear US avg was size 12. Still not great.

    Another interesting statistic I heard (maybe I heard it here): the average age of death from coronavirus is higher than the average age of death.

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    They don’t know how many critically ill patients were “morbidly obese” because they didn’t weigh them, so at best it’s a guesstimate. As for “nearly 8%” my bet is that number’s been rounded up from nearer 7% and even then those doing the guessing will have erred on the side of categorising people as morbidly obese.

    Furthermore, the morbidly obese know that they are high risk from all sorts of problems, if they haven’t done anything about it before I really don’t see why denying me the pleasure of seeing adverts for stuff is going to make any difference in the future.

  13. I feels better then, Tim.

    I heard a few years ago that the thing that amazes foreigners the most about Americans when the step off the plane here is that we are all regular sized. Global chatter about American obesity has created a belief that ‘Mericans is pigs.

  14. I was given to understand that an American “Size zero” was a UK 6… That would make a US 12 a UK 18.

  15. Another interesting statistic I heard (maybe I heard it here): the average age of death from coronavirus is higher than the average age of death

    Yes, because virtually none of the kids & young adults who caught it have died, and even up to the age of 60 or so it’s still very low.

    It makes a mockery of keeping schools & colleges shut. Just keep them away from Granny until it’s fully worked its way through the young ‘uns, like we did with measles, scarlet fever, mumps, German measles, etc, etc.

  16. @ Gamecock
    American dress sizes are different, American shoe sizes are different, American pints and gallons are different.
    Men’s clothes tend to be measured in inches so they are comparable and you don’t expect women’s to be misleadingly non-comparable.

  17. No death certificate ever said cause of death “high blood pressure.”

    ‘High blood pressure is the leading global cause of premature death.’

    A lie. An obvious lie.

    ‘Dr Shingo Yanagiya, of the Hokkaido University Graduate School of Medicine, said: “Men with higher incomes need to improve their lifestyles to prevent high blood pressure.

    “Steps include eating healthily, exercising, and controlling weight. Alcohol should be kept to moderate levels and binge drinking avoided.”‘

    FO, Doc.

  18. @ Gamecock
    Just choose for yourself the definition of “moderate”.
    I can tell from your comments that you get exercise.
    Eating healthily means getting enough protein, vitamins and calories – boiled cabbage does not meet any of these needs and may be avoided. I consume a healthy balanced diet without *a single one* of the foods which I was told as a child I must eat when I did not want to do so. Steak is a healthy food, peaches are healthy, strawberries are healthy, apricots are very healthy …

  19. @SMFS – “Think what the working class gets.” – lots of working class women are very tasty indeed, are you confusing underclass with working class?

    @SMFS – “very high status men tend not to be fat. I think it is because they also tend to be smart.” – I would more attribute it to self control than smartness.

  20. ‘Just choose for yourself the definition of “moderate”.’

    Yep. At annual physical, doc asks me how many drinks I have a day. On my reply, he freezes momentarily. Looks over his glasses a few seconds, and says, “You look like you are doing fine; it doesn’t seem to be hurting you any.”

    There is a difference from 50 years ago. There are several hours between my drinks. If I had two drinks back-to-back, I would not feel good. 50 years ago, and I’d feel good after a 6-pack.

    Years ago, I became concerned because of the hype. I found that people who have 10 drinks a day have a %30 chance of contracting sclerosis of the liver. I keep it at half that or less.

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