Fairly inevitable really

Men going their own way: the rise of a toxic male separatist movement

What do you expect to happen when the entire society is saying that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle?

18 thoughts on “Fairly inevitable really”

  1. A simple feedback loop. If the girls turn off the milder, introverted types, only the horrid rapists they criticise will be prepared to have a go. Thus only those girls who like such bad boys will tend to reproduce.

    Thus we have a stable system that automatically produces rampant rapists and howling harridans. Evolution in action again.

  2. The female inability to foresee the inevitable consequences of their behavior. Keep pissing blokes off and they go and do something else, depriving women of the oxygen of attention. Not fair!

  3. So Much For Subtlety

    Feminism has been telling women they should offer men less and less. Marriage used to come with some benefits. Now women demand endless courtship, they refuse to do certain types of work within the marriage as a matter of pride, they insist that they have no obligation to provide sex even while insisting, with the police backing them up, their husbands have an obligation to provide them with endless money.

    It is no wonder at the marginal appeal of marriage has shifted and some men now decide it is not worth it.

    Someone the other day, unironically, complained about “emotional labour”. Needless to say she is single. And who in their right mind would want that?

  4. I find this sort of discussion quite perplexing, along with why women seem to prefer violent men. Perhaps if you are a slag that’s the only type that will have you. If a woman has looks but no brains, she can always find a rich man – as long as the looks last.

    Fortunately, not all women fit into those categories.

  5. It sounds about as toxic as mumsnet.
    Beyond “those nasty boys don’t want to play with us!”, what exactly is their beef with this?

  6. In fairness, most of the MGTOWs I know are blokes who get spat out of the divorce sausage machine and have expressed the preference for being “Once and done”. Incels are a slightly different matter, mostly being love sick virgins raised by single mothers who have no desirable characteristics that even the fat and otherwise unfuckable would want.

    Tinder and PoF has a lot to answer for…

  7. “I find this sort of discussion quite perplexing, along with why women seem to prefer violent men. Perhaps if you are a slag that’s the only type that will have you.”

    Nope, the sales of 50 Shades of Grey tell us that the female desire for the Dark Triad personality traits is pretty widespread throughout the gender. My theory is that its an evolutionary throwback thing – when the world is dog eat dog, as it has been for all but the last few centuries of human existence, if that, who as a woman do you want on your side? A mild mannered reasonable chap who wouldn’t say boo to a goose, or a highly manipulative violent psychopath? Who are you going to ‘reward’ with sex in return for protection and access to resources?

    Its the dark secret of female sexuality – millennia of evolution have trained them to be sexually attracted to the worst men (as we see them now) available. As much as we like to think we can be rational and control our evolutionary programming, the limbic lizard brain will always win out.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/where-addiction-meets-your-brain/201404/your-lizard-brain

  8. Very strange – is it now compulsory to like women? You are not allowed to say – sorry, relationships are not for me, I’ll go and live in a log cabin on my own somewhere?

    Isn’t that, as a minimum, a homophobic attitude?

  9. Another way of looking at it. You’re sitting in God’s Aeron chair writing a script for a female primate. Has to work across the spectrum from Bonobos to Zulus. So no hard coding values, everything has to be relative. Define a suitable mate. “1: Has to be able to beat me, otherwise he can’t defend me any better than I can defend myself.”

  10. “Another way of looking at it. You’re sitting in God’s Aeron chair writing a script for a female primate. Has to work across the spectrum from Bonobos to Zulus. So no hard coding values, everything has to be relative. Define a suitable mate. “1: Has to be able to beat me, otherwise he can’t defend me any better than I can defend myself.””

    That doesn’t follow. Pretty much all men ‘can’ beat all women, due to physical differences so by your rule a woman’s programming for mate selection would only work to rule out physically weak men. It would not explain why they would disproportionately select violent men, as there are plenty of mild mannered but strong men.

    The rule would more be ‘Is both capable of and prepared to use violence in order to further his interests (and therefore my interests if I am his mate)’. That selects for both physically strong and violent men.

  11. ” Laura has learnt how to go to a web page and has made it into a Guardian piece.”

    A whole book in fact. The Guardian piece was an extract from her book ‘I don’t like men, why don’t they like me?’ (I paraphrase).

  12. Dennis, He Who Owns A Rhyming Dictionary

    If I had any spare cash for investment, I’d be pumping it into sex robot manufacturing

    Not quite the way I would have expressed it, but that’s just me.

  13. Jim,
    In practice, “could but won’t” is the same as “can’t”.

    But the point was about using oneself as a yard stick. How tall? I have to look up. How strong? Can beat the crap out of me.

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