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Seems fair

One of the co-founders of Extinction Rebellion has been detained for four weeks before a weekend of planned action.

Roger Hallam, 54, of Wandsworth in south-west London, was among five people arrested on Monday and charged with conspiracy to cause criminal damage.

The five appeared at Highbury Corner magistrates court on Tuesday and were remanded into custody until their next court appearance, at Wood Green crown court on 22 September, the Metropolitan police said.

Difficult for them to deny the charge given the activities they plan…..

33 thoughts on “Seems fair”

  1. I think the key point is that they were almost certain to breach any bail conditions. So that’s a bit of a laugh, actually.
    If I though the key point was that the “Process is the Punishment” I wouldn’t be laughing.

  2. Surely this is fake news? XR NOT getting special treatment by the justice system? Has Dick already apologised to them? Where’s Lady Hale when you need her?

  3. So Much For Subtlety

    It is a universal rule of thumb that laws introduced for an emergency are used more and more broadly.

    The XR people may be arseholes but the only people I want held in prison for four weeks without committing a crime are called Muhammed.

    Domestic violence will be next. Men accused of rape.

  4. @Jussi,

    Just a polite question, but are you Scottish, and strongly-accented? Just so I know whether or not ‘Lady Hale’ is a euphemism …

  5. In case people haven’t noticed, Hallam and a few similarly minded types have decided XR isn’t getting anything done (surprise!), and have formed a breakaway, more activist group known as BP (Beyond Politics). Their master plan for getting to the world to leap to Hallam’s bidding appears to be to paint the LibDem HQ pink.

  6. Witchie, I’m not Scottish and have actually started to hate Scotland and Scottish. I hope they and their economy suffers disproportionately due to the chinese virus. I am quite strongly accented though.

  7. Well I’m a Scot and I’m a Viking too. They got about a bit, my ancestors.

    Manx/Irish living in Scotland here with some of the Viking genetic traits thrown in (although fortunately “Viking Finger” only affects my brother). As you say, they got about a bit.

  8. At the moment I’d like to take this opportunity and apologise for the conduct of my nation of birth in the culture wars. The behaviour of the conductor at BBC has been reprehensible and her background most vile and obnoxious, and people like Okko Kamu, Esa-Pekka Salonen, Jukka-Pekka Saraste and Osmo Vanska would’ve been more suitable for the job – traditional conductors with traditional Finnish-looking names.

  9. Relax, Jussi, it’s not the whole of the nation of your birth now is it? It’s one stupid, arrogant bint from it.

  10. What M’Lud said.
    People should be treated as people not pigeonholed and blamed for the actions of some other person with a single shared characteristic.

  11. Dennis, Accounting's White Dwarf

    I’m Scots-German. The Scots side of the family must have been something special, because no one in the family would talk about them. Coming from my family, that points to multiple homicides or worse. As for the Germans, I’m told my great-great-great grandmother had to dress up as Poland every night in order to encourage great-great-great grandfather to invade her.

  12. Dennis, Who Is Happily Not A Even-Toed Ungulate

    Dennis, are you sure your great-great-great grandfather wasn’t French?

    Absolutely. Knowing my father’s honesty in all things as I do, I paid good coin of the realm to get one of those DNA tests, and it confirmed that half of the family came from somewhere around the German-Polish border. Just as depressing, it also confirmed Scotland as the source of the other half of the family.

    That I don’t have French blood is further confirmed by the level of my personal hygiene and my distaste for Jerry Lewis movies.

  13. “People should be treated as people not pigeonholed and blamed for the actions of some other person with a single shared characteristic.”

    Except that stereotypes contain a lot of truth!

  14. “…half of the family came from somewhere around the German-Polish border. Just as depressing, it also confirmed Scotland as the source of the other half of the family.”

    Wog!

  15. Dennis – it’s just that your great-great-great grandfather was possibly around when the French were in transit(being polite)through Poland though of course he might equally have been Russian and taking Poland, as it were, from behind.

    Whichever way it was, nothing could be worse than having a Scottish side to your family so applause to you for being so honest about the shameful antecedents and well done to the forgiving Gods for having you as their CPA.

  16. @ Theophrastus
    Stereotypes are generalisations. Individuals are individuals.
    *Sometimes* the stereotype is a good indication of the behaviour of the majority of the group it describes, but quite often it doesn’t even do that. Think of gypsy singers – there is a higher proportion of gifted singers among gypsies than non-gypsies but most gypsies are not gifted singers. Or West Indian cricketers – Jofra Archer deciding he had a better chance of playing Test Cricket if he opted for England than WIndies says one hell of a lot about perceptions of relative quality of English and West Indian cricketers, but although many think Gary Sobers is the best cricketer in history, most West Indians are not world-class cricketers.

  17. Re: Extinction Rebellion
    Lying scum
    OK we all knew that
    Proof: Yesterday I got an email from “Stop Stanstead Expansion” telling everyone on their mailing list that the claim the XR had made to the local press that SSE was joining with XR on a protest march was lies,SSE had NO connection with XR and filed a complaint to the newspaper for publishing the false claim without checking with them

  18. Jofra Archer deciding he had a better chance of playing Test Cricket if he opted for England than WIndies

    Didn’t the relative remuneration have some influence? WI cricketers earn the near side of fuck-all compared to their English counterparts.

  19. Bloke in North Dorset

    @Dennis the Mongrel

    ” As for the Germans, I’m told my great-great-great grandmother had to dress up as Poland every night in order to encourage great-great-great grandfather to invade her.”

    And …

    “Absolutely. Knowing my father’s honesty in all things as I do, I paid good coin of the realm to get one of those DNA tests, and it confirmed that half of the family came from somewhere around the German-Polish border”

    Depending how you date generations I reckon that makes them Prussians, not Germans, if you take 1871 as the the formation of the German Empire. Prior to that the area you describe was in Prussia not the states that were recognised as Germans.

  20. I am second to no one in my hatred of Marxist eco freaks. XR need to be sorted out on the pavement.

    But I agree with SMFS–unless Plod has definite true evidence of not just plans but preparation for illegal activity–it is a bogus charge. Arresting those you only suspect –without proof –of planning something is a slippery slope. And arresting someone for only writing “Blow up Houses Of Parliament 5th November” is tyranny unless a credible, evidence-in-the-physical-world plot goes with it. Like barrels of gunpowder stashed away.

  21. I think Jussi must live somewhere in North West County Durham, considering he’s mentioned places like Cornsay Colliery and Thomas Swan (just off the bypass in Consett). I know these places quite well, as I live just outside Consett.

  22. Dennis, He Who Is Truly Blessed With Some Sort of Germanic Wog Heritage

    Depending how you date generations I reckon that makes them Prussians, not Germans,

    Well, that changes everything, doesn’t it?

  23. Assuming those documents they apparently inadvertently released a while back really were theirs, I’d have thought treason would be a more appropriate charge. There was a clear intent there to overthrow the government.

  24. “I reckon that makes them Prussians, not Germans.”

    Well, that changes everything, doesn’t it?

    He’s got a point. Still wogs….

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