That’s quick

Alan William Parker was born during a bombing raid in London in 1944. He grew up on a council estate in Islington, north London, in 1944.

Imagine growing up in just the one year…..

21 thoughts on “That’s quick”

  1. Most of us regard Islington as *Central* London: less than a mile from the Thames on the northern side of The City, which is traditionally viewed as the centre.

  2. “If your from North of the River you can never be happy in south of it” said my mother, Hackney born and bred.

    John, Islington is N. London, quite a distinct place from Central London, and The City is something quite distinct again. N. London ends round about Stoke Newington, maybe Tottenam, beyond that isn’t real London. My mother didn’t think it so when we moved out to Enfield in 1958: “What’s point of a place where you can’t go to the end of the road and hail a taxi if you’re late for work?”

  3. Problem is, London’s got several centres, depending what you’re talking about. For a start, you have the two original cities. The City, which has Roman origins. And the more recent Westminster. Long the political & ecclesiastical capital. Where’s the commercial centre since finance drove most commerce out of the City? Cultural centre’s somewhere between Holborn & Oxford Circus.

  4. Obviously why I’ve never been there Mr Womby. I’ve heard the Woolwich Ferry may visit on its voyages. Whether a passport is required, I couldn’t tell you.

  5. @ djc
    When I was young Finchley was in North London, Enfield IMHO not really, High Barnet debatable, but generally places on tube lines were in London.
    If it’s quicker to walk to St Paul’s than to take a bus (assuming they are running on time) then its central London.
    @ bis
    St Paul’s was still in The City last time I looked. Admittedly the Roman Catholics have their cathedral in Westminster but OTOH Wesley’s Chapel is in The City.
    Commerce: London Docks were in/on the edge of The City prior to containerisation: it wasn’t finance which drove them out of The City but the unacceptable losses from pilferage by dockworkers. More commerce was driven out of The City by the Luftwaffe than by finance – after all, most finance houses were there to serve commerce.

  6. I’m from Lancashire,you parochial bastards (and let’s face it, this isn’t a phrase you’re going to read too often)

  7. @ djc
    Yes, I was forgetting that some tube lines went out of London – ones that I didn’t use in those days.
    Try red buses or green buses as a split.

  8. Pedantically, the Metropolitan and District are surface lines, not tube [/anorak]. You could argue that London is that area served by genuinely underground lines – but then they don’t go ‘sarf of the river’ much, because of geology.

  9. John, when I was a lad the 249 Red Bus went as far north as Hammond Street in Hertfordshire.

    CM, as BiS has noted ‘sarf of the river’, why would you go there?

    To my mind Central London is bounded by the river and the Circle Line and anything beyond the original N/S/E/W postal districts, or the old LCC area is not proper London at all.

  10. Circle Line’s a pretty good boundary for Central London. I’m bemused by john77’s London. He managed never to look at a Tube map or the destinations on the front of a red bus? You didn’t spend the entirety of your sojourn in The Smoke in Pentonville or the Scrubs, did you?

  11. Just for John. The LT number 10 route was from Abridge* – a small village in Essex near Ongar – to Victoria. Bit hard to miss as it went right through the West End. The destinations were on that black panel at he front, John. In case you never noticed.
    The 250 would take you on to Passingford Bridge & then Romford. Single decker, but still red London Transport.

  12. @ bis
    As far as possible I avoided London transport buses throughout my life due their unreliability when I had no option but to use them and never had cause to use either Central outside the Circle, District or Metropolitan lines as child.

  13. Then you’d know the District ran from Upminster to Richmond. The Met to Aylesbury. Central to Ongar. On the front of the train as it appears in the tunnel. And on the indicator board. As a kid, I went through every single station on the Underground. School holidays & Tube passes. 5 bob, I think.

  14. @ bis
    Just why should you imagine I caught or even looked at the No 10 or 250 as a child? To see “the sights” I was taken (I was quite small when I saw them) by train to King’s X and a short tube journey.
    I do not believe that I have ever caught either bus.

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