This is gonna be interestingAugust 11, 2020 Tim WorstallPolitics53 CommentsWill Willie Brown’s ex-girlfriend really get elected VP? previousHaHaHa, AhahahanextI sorta doubt this 53 thoughts on “This is gonna be interesting” So Much For Subtlety August 11, 2020 at 10:42 pm I look forward to Trump’s first attack ad. Which will be Biden’s VP accusing him of supporting segregation and keeping her in the ghetto. The amazing thing is that for the first time in her life she didn’t have to give head to get ahead. So Much For Subtlety August 11, 2020 at 11:29 pm His second one should run something like “The next Democratic President of the United States believes Joe Biden’s accusers. She agreed to be his Vice President anyway. Is that someone you want in the White House?” Although I hope they go for the simplest – No more sexually exploited interns in the Oval Office! Mr Ecks August 12, 2020 at 12:33 am She is a vile hag without even the publicity boost that a Mr Michelle Obama might bring. BLACK LIVES MAGA TRUMP 2020 Agammamon August 12, 2020 at 1:42 am You don’t really get elected VP. You help the guy running for President get elected President. Otherwise you’re just along for the ride. Mohave Greenie August 12, 2020 at 2:10 am The problem is that if Biden is elected, she is defacto President of the United States. She has the policy smarts of Joe Biden, the morals of Bill Clinton, and the political nous of Hilary Clinton. I have voted against her twice. Here’s hoping the third time is the charm! So Much For Subtlety August 12, 2020 at 2:11 am Agammamon August 12, 2020 at 1:42 am – “You don’t really get elected VP. You help the guy running for President get elected President. Otherwise you’re just along for the ride.” Black politics is entirely based on hating Whites. There are very few Black politicians who can successfully cross over – well, Obama and he was fairly moderate, for a Black politician to start with – he lost in Chicago because he didn’t hate Whites enough so he had to go to the right Church and listen to Wright – and he had the whole media lying for him about his views. So Harris, who isn’t that Black either, is the best Biden can do? What possible benefit does she bring but a vagina and some melanin? She will give credibility to all the attacks on Biden. A real journalist would ask her if she thinks he is a rapist. She literally stood up and called him a segregationist. We can have endless discussions about her smoking weed and laughing while putting Black teenagers away for decades. She needs to bring him extra votes. That is why Obama picked Biden – someone to reassure the middle ground. Biden must be in trouble if he needs to shore up his *left*. Yet Blacks don’t like her much. No one does. If would have been better off picking a moderate. Of colour if need be. But one with less toxicity. Even Stacey Abrams would have been a better choice. But I hear she is too busy being governor of Georgia. Itellyounothing August 12, 2020 at 5:11 am This looks like a Clintonista power play. They are loosing ground inside the dementocratic party. Harris is probably not gonna get a look in in 2024 if she and Biden loose. On the upside she leaps to President when Biden’s scripts run out. Good move for her. Scott Adams made a now duff call she would be the presidential candidate, but updated to say she would be VP when the time came. Clearly he saw forces at work round her. I heard one side of her family were slave owners long ago, not sure of veracity. Not an easy sell to black voters…… Bloke in Wales August 12, 2020 at 6:17 am The amazing thing is that for the first time in her life she didn’t have to give head to get ahead. How do we know? dearieme August 12, 2020 at 8:48 am “not sure of veracity.” All of us are defended from slave owners. All of us are decided from slaves. That’s mankind for you. Bloke on M4 August 12, 2020 at 9:46 am SMFS, “What possible benefit does she bring but a vagina and some melanin?” Not sure about the value of the vagina, but the melanin is worth it. There are millions of black people in the USA who seem to only vote for black candidates. Not all, but it’s basically what won it for Obama. Massive extra levels of votes. Whether it works again, I don’t know. Whether it works for VP, I don’t know. But expect a lot of media pieces around Biden’s age to the effect of “she’s going to be getting the job soon”. bloke in spain August 12, 2020 at 9:49 am Indian mother, Jamaican father? President Biden better be counting the White House spoons. If he wants to be able to flog ’em to one of his “business associates”, anyway. Mr Ecks August 12, 2020 at 9:50 am Her POS father boasted about being descended from one of Jamaica’s biggest slave owners. Black Marxists Matter are lucky they don’t believe in objective truth and will just ignore the whole issue. Anyone sane would have one Hell of a time trying to smooth over the contradictions. Mr Ecks August 12, 2020 at 9:52 am Considering the number of blacks she has jailed the black vote is far from certain. dearieme August 12, 2020 at 10:08 am One wag on Steve Sailer said she’d be President by coming through the back door. Pat August 12, 2020 at 11:42 am Interesting. Started campaign in Jan 2019, reported to have large fundraising, got decent approval for her debate performances and dropped out in December citing lack of funding. One wonders if something wasn’t stitched up back then. philip August 12, 2020 at 12:01 pm What’s the difference between Harris, Markle and Betty Sharp from Vanity Fair? None I can see, Dennis, Clear-Eyed As Always August 12, 2020 at 12:26 pm Kamala Harris checks all of the boxes and none of them. She’s female and black (kinda), so she checks the Democrat identity politics boxes. But in reality she is everything the Democrats need to lose big. Here’s why she does nothing for Biden: First of all, she’s from California, which is a safely Democrat state in November. So putting her on the ticket doesn’t bring a state into play the way choosing Whitmer (MI) or Duckworth (IL) would. Second, for all her far-left posturing in the primaries, she’s very much an establishment Democrat. She fooled no one in the primaries and garnered little to no support from the Bernie Sanders faction. That faction will see her as a slap in the face to a progressive bloc that firmly believes the establishment Democrats cheated Bernie Sanders out of the nomination in 2016. So in picking Harris, Biden loses the Bernie Bros, and there’s nothing Sanders himself, AOC, or any other progressive can do to undo this. Third, Harris’ record as a tough on crime prosecutor alienated a lot of African-Americans. She didn’t do particularly well with A-As in the primaries, and there is no reason to think she will be able to bring wandering A-As back into the fold. Tulsi Gabbard tore Harris apart in the late primaries over her record as a prosecutor; look for Trump to use her playbook. Fourth is the nickname Trump has already given her… “Phony Kamala”. It will stick. Too much of her career is out there, and for every position she will attempt to adopt between now and November, the Trump campaign will have a video clip of her saying something different. In hunting terms, she’s what’s known as a large, slow moving target. And I’m quite sure the Democrats who chose Harris (I doubt Biden made the choice himself) understand all of the drawbacks I’ve mentioned (they are, after all, obvious). A Biden-Harris ticket is best understood as the Democrat establishment attempting to fend off the progressive insurgency within the party. I don’t really think any Democrat in Washington DC really believes Biden can win in November, but I also think they are more focused on not losing to the likes of AOC than losing to Trump. Harris is more a matter of the Democrat Party establishment circling the wagons than anything else. Kevin B August 12, 2020 at 12:59 pm I hope you’re right about Biden/Harris but the Bernie supporters seem to be doing rapid 180’s, at least according to Twitchy today. For instance from Bernie boy, Shaun King “I’ll be frank and tell you two Democrats that I am 99% sure I won’t be supporting – primarily because of their dismal history on criminal justice reform over the course of their entire careers. Joe Biden & Kamala Harris.” And a few months later… “I am incredibly proud to see a brilliant Black woman, and HBCU grad, chosen as a Vice Presidential nominee. Kamala Harris is the most progressive VP nominee in American history.” Dennis, Yet Again August 12, 2020 at 1:21 pm I hope you’re right about Biden/Harris but the Bernie supporters seem to be doing rapid 180’s, at least according to Twitchy today. You will get that from the House Negros and the grifters (Shaun King is both, except he’s really white), but I cannot imagine those who were committed to voting progressive are going to march to the polls for either Biden or Harris. And having Bernie and AOC waxing poetic about that duo at the Democrat convention isn’t going to change their minds. I suspect a fair whack of Bernie Bros would just as soon have four more years of Trump than enable the Democrat Party establishment score a victory. I’ve never thought the Bernie phenomenon was as substantial as a lot of folks did, but I’d wager a significant number of Bernie Bros are going to feel betrayed… again. And as the ever excellent Stacy McCain (theothermccain.com) is pointing out this morning, #ADOS is trending on Twitter… which means there’s a portion of the A-A voting public out there that isn’t buying the idea the a Jamaican-Indian woman (Harris) qualifies as an A-A. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio August 12, 2020 at 2:00 pm Robert Barnes on Kamala Harris: In order to appeal to disaffected black voters who might lean toward protest voting (Kanye) or not voting (2016), Democrats ingeniously picked the one black candidate whose parents are not from America, whose ancestors had slaves, and who spent her career locking up black men. Brutal, but true. John August 12, 2020 at 3:01 pm Hardly the criminal justice reformer she now claims to be. While Harris was State Attorney General her office argued in court that the early release of too many non-violent offenders would drastically decrease the prison labor pool available in California. Not entirely bad then. Dennis, Odin's Tax Collector August 12, 2020 at 3:13 pm >Hardly the criminal justice reformer she now claims to be. While Harris was State Attorney General her office argued in court that the early release of too many non-violent offenders would drastically decrease the prison labor pool available in California. The largely African-American prison labor pool. If ever there was a more pristine example of the House Negro than Kamala Harris, I have yet to find them… BniC August 12, 2020 at 3:24 pm Even the aforementioned Willie Brown said she should refuse the offer of being VP John August 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm “Phoney Kamala” will have to do. Many of my American friends have been calling her “Heels up Harris” since before the primaries but hopefully the President will for once err on the side of caution. Edward Lud August 12, 2020 at 3:54 pm If the Dems know they’ll lose on this, ahem, ‘moderate’ ticket, doesn’t that tee-up Occasional Braindead and the Bride of her Brother in four years’ time to seize the crown on the basis that making nice in 2020 did not work? I quite like the seizing the crown simile. The US goes all Yorkists and Lancastrians. Analytically, it sort of works as a comparator. dearieme August 12, 2020 at 4:23 pm “Occasional Braindead and the Bride of her Brother” Unthinkable. Then implausible. Then just about possible. Then certain. As someone once said, you can go from unthinkable to certain without ever passing through probable. Dennis, CPA to the Gods August 12, 2020 at 4:24 pm If the Dems know they’ll lose on this, ahem, ‘moderate’ ticket, doesn’t that tee-up Occasional Braindead and the Bride of her Brother in four years’ time to seize the crown on the basis that making nice in 2020 did not work? Perhaps. I doubt the establishment wing of the Democrat Party is thinking that far ahead. Pelosi is 80, Schumer is 69, Hoyer is 81, Warren is 71, Sanders is 78, the Clintons are 73 and 72, etc. Obama is about the youngest of the lot at 59 and is heir to the establishment throne (in theory), but I think he’s largely squandered his chance to be a meaningful power broker. AOC, the Bernie Bros and the rest of the progressives don’t view him as either a member or an ally, and if we’ve learned anything from this round of primaries, it’s that the cupboard is bare in terms of up and coming stars in the establishment wing of the party. So, there is an excellent chance that AOC and her lot will end up grabbing the DNC and the party apparatus, but it will avail them nothing. Their shit plays well in select urban areas (that are already in the process of emptying out) and in the news media. Everywhere else they’re viewed as a freak show. jgh August 12, 2020 at 4:41 pm “Pelosi is 80, Schumer is 69, Hoyer is 81, Warren is 71, Sanders is 78, the Clintons are 73 and 72, etc.” You’ve described the Soviet top brass in the 1960s. The purges of the 1920s resulted in a single generation controlling the entire shebang with no new blood coming through because the new blood had been sent to the salt mines or to the front. Where’s the Dem’s Gorbachav? Obama was almost, but the party establishment has reverted to type, it’s doing to physically need dead [wo|were]men’s shoes before they can move on. Agammamon August 12, 2020 at 4:52 pm So Much For Subtlety August 12, 2020 at 2:11 am Agammamon August 12, 2020 at 1:42 am – “You don’t really get elected VP. You help the guy running for President get elected President. Otherwise you’re just along for the ride.” . . . So Harris, who isn’t that Black either, is the best Biden can do? What possible benefit does she bring but a vagina and some melanin? Well, to start with, this is *American* politics and in American politics Identity Politics is king – at least in public. So don’t underestimate that skin color and genital config. Secondly – She’s 1/4 Black. That’s Black enough when she needs to play the race card and sufficiently ‘not-Black’ when she needs to play *that* card. Thirdly – you might have notice we has a smallish insurrection going on right now. Its been going on long enough that public opinion has shifted against the ‘peaceful protestors’. So Biden’s picked a long-term ‘tough on crime’ ‘lawn-order’ type so he can credibly pretend that he didn’t mean it when he said ‘C’mon Man! Defund the police – I mean, you ain’t Black if you ain’t been jailed by Kamala Harris. I’m sleepy, I want my bitty. Ooh, your hair looks nice, let me smell you’. Agammamon August 12, 2020 at 5:00 pm Dennis, CPA to the Gods August 12, 2020 at 4:24 pm . . . Their shit plays well in select urban areas (that are already in the process of emptying out) and in the news media. Everywhere else they’re viewed as a freak show. BoB might actually end up in jail in the next 4 years – at least she’ll be dealing with some serious legal trouble. There’s some very convincing evidence out in public now. And its funny – those rapidly emptying urban areas are rapidly emptying *because* of the shit ‘The Squad’ has been pushing. They’ve been driving their own allies away. Edward Lud August 12, 2020 at 5:40 pm It’s funny, in a gallows humour kind of way, but my impression is that Septicland, having held the Fort of whitey Westernism whilst Yurp went full-on Replacement, has now hypercharged its descent into Tranzi hell, and overtaken the Yurpeans. As only Septics can do. One wonders what Septics will do, when they’re no longer Septics. Oblong August 12, 2020 at 6:28 pm “BoB might actually end up in jail in the next 4 years – at least she’ll be dealing with some serious legal trouble. There’s some very convincing evidence out in public now” What’s that about? Dennis, Septic to the Masses August 12, 2020 at 7:43 pm It’s funny, in a gallows humour kind of way, but my impression is that Septicland, having held the Fort of whitey Westernism whilst Yurp went full-on Replacement, has now hypercharged its descent into Tranzi hell, and overtaken the Yurpeans. It’s understandable that you’d think that if your only reference is the mainstream media. Fortunately, the vast majority of Septics don’t buy into the sort of shit the New York Times and Washington Post are selling. When things start going South Septics buy guns and ammo, which ‘Mericans are doing in record numbers this year. Somehow things will look different to Antifa and BLM when they start getting a eyeful of a loaded Glock 19 in the hands of a pissed-off citizen. And that sort of thing is closer to happening than you think. Wogs, on the other hand, look around for the nearest butter knife. Or narwhal tusk. dearieme August 12, 2020 at 9:02 pm “What’s that about?” Here’s my guess. BoB is Barack O’bama. The reference to “she” is an allusion to the joke/fantasy that’s he’s a poof and Michelle is a tranny, the kids being adopted. But I may be entirely off the mark. Dennis, Just Dennis August 12, 2020 at 9:33 pm dearieme – Actually, you nailed it. Gamecock August 12, 2020 at 9:44 pm My son votes Democrat (forgive him for his youthfulness). He is nonplussed by Biden. Hasty generalization, but I think Dem turnout will be miniscule. If the Dems were rational political people, they’d write off 2020 and work on 2024. The 2020 election is to set up the 2024 election. They are squandering it for no apparent gain. Harris is toxic. They can’t really think they are going to run Harris in 2024. She’s a loser. Documented. By the 2020 primaries. Bloke on M4 August 12, 2020 at 10:39 pm Dennis, Interesting perspective. I’m considering a bet on Trump just because 6/4 seems like huge money in a 2 horse race. Yeah, Biden is ahead in most battleground states but it’s only by 4 or 5 points. Considering polling accuracy, that could be off. So Much For Subtlety August 12, 2020 at 10:54 pm Gamecock August 12, 2020 at 9:44 pm – “Hasty generalization, but I think Dem turnout will be miniscule.” Especially Black and Hispanic turnout. Why would any people in those communities vote for a friend of a Segregationist and a woman who didn’t experience segregation, is descended from slave owners – like Obama mind you, and spent her career jailing Black men? Whereas Republicans look fired up and everything that has happened lately will only make them more so. “If the Dems were rational political people, they’d write off 2020 and work on 2024. The 2020 election is to set up the 2024 election. They are squandering it for no apparent gain. Harris is toxic. They can’t really think they are going to run Harris in 2024. She’s a loser. Documented. By the 2020 primaries.” Indeed. But they went bat-shit crazy over 2016 and they have said that Trump is Satan incarnate so they can’t back down now. You fight Hitler, you do not surrender. They can only pray for the day America is 51% BAME in the hope all scores will be settled. But let’s see how Trump does among Hispanics. Gamecock August 12, 2020 at 11:28 pm I wonder . . . has anyone ever seen Kamala and Markle at the same time? Pcar August 13, 2020 at 12:10 am @Mohave Greenie Spot on. How does Indian mother and whitish Jamaican father make her ‘African American Black’? All non-whites now black? This too: From google cache as 404 not found all over web suddenly “…Mr. Harris was extremely upset his daughter was using the race card and only mentioned her true heritage as a joke about smoking pot. He’s angry she wants Americans to see her as an African American, not as a Jamaican. “My dear departed grandmothers (whose extraordinary legacy I described in a recent essay on this website), as well as my deceased parents, must be turning in their grave right now to see their family’s name, reputation and proud Jamaican identity being connected, in any way, jokingly or not with the fraudulent stereotype of a pot-smoking joy seeker and in the pursuit of identity politics,” said Mr. Harris in February 2019. “Speaking for myself and my immediate Jamaican family, we wish to categorically dissociate ourselves from this travesty,” he added. Now, many of Kamala’s proponents are claiming her family still came from Africa but went to Jamaica first. CNN’s April Ryan was furious claiming, “When [Kamala] goes down her lineage many Africans landed in Jamaica and other Caribbean islands. So she could indeed be African-American!” Except, Donald J. Harris has already made it clear his family’s history in Jamaica goes back generations, and they were slave owners, not slaves. “My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (née Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me),” said Kamala’s father…” https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3d3RaypTxzAJ:https://madworldnews.com/kamala-dad-trashes-public-vp/ Greg Gutfeld (and comments) nails it with “Elizabeth Warren now identifying as Kamala Harris” https://youtu.be/B9yXXWcKleA?t=152 Pcar August 13, 2020 at 12:42 am @Dennis Kamala Harris past behaviour until a short time ago ought to destroy her black support Biden didn’t choose Harris as his Running Mate. He was Instructed to choose Harris as his Running Mate Trump campaign releases ad attacking Kamala Harris’ integrity Ad: Meet Phony Kamala Harris, Joe Biden’s New Liberal Handler Tucker: There are timeshare sellers more trustworthy than Kamala Harris Biden: Kamala Harris is best person to lead USA from January 2021 Biden to resign minutes after inauguration? tomo August 13, 2020 at 2:16 am The Democrat candidates were – and still are a shit show – I strongly suspect the only thing that actually matters to the DNC is postal voting – dead people will be voting in record numbers – shame I cannot get a bet on that… I bet there’s a game plan and George will be dumping more of the money he can’t take with him where he’s going. What’s to going rate for protesters on Craigslist? – I would not be surprised if the minions have been tasked with a shopping list + promised bonuses. Here’s hoping Project Veritas catch the fuckers “at it”. Harris wasn’t picked to appeal to black voters – she’s the suburban trendy liberal white woman’s candidate… tomo August 13, 2020 at 2:22 am I’d add that I have the feeling that this is actually a *very* dangerous election. Check out Kamala’s hubby’s ChiCom ties ….. Edward Lud August 13, 2020 at 6:35 am I think Agammamon was referring to Ihlan Omar. Certainly, I was. Bloke on M4 August 13, 2020 at 9:09 am Dennis, “It’s understandable that you’d think that if your only reference is the mainstream media. Fortunately, the vast majority of Septics don’t buy into the sort of shit the New York Times and Washington Post are selling. When things start going South Septics buy guns and ammo, which ‘Mericans are doing in record numbers this year. Somehow things will look different to Antifa and BLM when they start getting a eyeful of a loaded Glock 19 in the hands of a pissed-off citizen. And that sort of thing is closer to happening than you think.” It’s similar to the UK. You’d think we were an island that’s into Black Lives Matter and Extinction Rebellion, but that end of politics is London, Bristol, Cambridge, Brighton. The left get shocked by elections because they hang out in these places. Everyone they know is into this and Corbyn type politics. You get 40 miles out of London to Milton Keynes and it’s a whole different story. Gamecock August 13, 2020 at 10:49 am +1, tomo. Biden/Harris ticket is bizarre. I am interested in how many tens of millions of people vote for them. Gamecock August 14, 2020 at 5:32 pm Hmmm . . . no responses from diogenes. I assume he’s out with his lantern looking for someone who is actually pleased by the Kamala pick. He may be gone a while. Pcar August 14, 2020 at 8:37 pm @Gamecock Donna Brazile is pleased – the CNN ‘moderator’ who leaked questions to Hellary before debates Gamecock August 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm The only people more phony than Kamala are the people acting like she is a good pick. Chris Wallace is throwing his career away in support of her. Pcar August 16, 2020 at 1:08 am @Gamecock Hadn’t heard of Chris Wallace. You’re correct. Back to NBC for him, like Megan ‘Eye Candy’ Chris Wallace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAOPNS_cKsw Commila Harris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSpFECJhJ8 Gamecock August 16, 2020 at 9:52 pm Wallace is gaslighting that Harris isn’t a left wingnut. He is literally spouting the coordinated Democrat line. He is the son of the late Mike Wallace, one of the original correspondents on 60 Minutes. Chris for a long time was a good journalist. But Trump Derangement Syndrome has destroyed him. Gamecock August 16, 2020 at 9:53 pm Let me say it again here: It’s Joe and the Hoe. Pcar August 17, 2020 at 10:29 pm For UK readers: It’s Joe and the Whore Talking of whores Laurie Penny media Whoring Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. 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