The proto-fascist road to fascism in the UK is not now just clear. It is readily apparent that we are a long way down it. Far enough in fact to say that we now have what looks on the basis of all reasonable analysis to be a fascist government.
Of course I worry about saying this. That is the clearest sign that my claim is justified.
But if we do not call out what is happening now who and what will stop it?
Well, all we’ve got to do is stop enacting the policies of The Curajus State and we’ll be moving away from fascism, won;t we?
” Of course I worry about saying this. That is the clearest sign that my claim is justified.”
I worry about saying that the Lizard People control the world. That is the clearest sign that my claim is justified.
Spud’s entirely satisfied with the current state of affairs. His only beef is that it’s not him & his minute gaggle of friends in Number 10 calling the shots.
Apart from that, he’s entirely correct.
But if we do not call out what is happening now who and what will stop it?
And if only there had been some insane dribbling spastic willing to call out Hitler, World War 2 could have been avoided. Because everybody knows you can stop fascism just by blogging about it.
As Orwell long ago observed, the term “fascist” has lost all meaning beyond something not liked.
I have never felt that Brexit populism was a very good fit with Fascism if we use the word to mean anything specific at all.
Fascism was a revolutionary movement of the left that emerged from Romantic Nationalism and Marxism. It was a young movement characterised by the need for action, will and modernity. Brexit is old absurd and small minded.
Both admittedly rely on racist myths and the idea of betrayal .Both employ lying bis a valid political tactic but the same is equally true of the hard left. Brexit is nasty and stupid but not every nasty stupid thing is Fascism.
You’re quite right, Newmonia. Blair however…
@Newmania – you say that “Brexit is old absurd and small minded.”
I can name over 10 self-governing territories in Europe that are not in the EU and avoided post-war communism. Are you seriously saying those places are absurd and not outward looking. Prosperity is absurd. Jeez.
Ah, you say, but those places never joined, the UK is different because not counting Greenland it’s the first one to leave.
Er hang on, if it’s the first one, how is that ‘old’ as an idea.
Brexit is old absurd and small minded.
And while I’m being annoying and pestering you, for existing EU members would you care to explain why the centralised to Brussels policy for handouts to farmland owners based on land area owned is a better system than the two most obvious alternatives?
Spud’s strapline should be: Never knowingly understated.
Theo – why not broaden it out and drop the “understated”?
I remember feeling quite bucked when I once posted on his blog, I think I was Erich Mielke that day, and described him as omninescient
We know he’s talking bollocks about how far we are down the road to fascism for the simple reason he’s still blogging and hasn’t been put up against a wall and shot. In his case that would also be his fate if the left also got a chance at their particular brand of authoritarianism. Come to think of it, there’s probably a few democrats might be thinking that exit for him.
Why shoot him? Put him in a Gulag to dig the grand canal down the Pennines and watch how long it takes before he collapses. And he will have died a Corajus green death for the greater good
“Far enough in fact to say that we now have what looks on the basis of all reasonable analysis to be a fascist government.
Of course I worry about saying this. That is the clearest sign that my claim is justified.”
A curtain twitches in an Ely end terrace as the occupant awaits the arrival of the brown shirts and incarceration in a Fenland Dachau as an ideological threat to the New Order.
Why’s Richie’s moaning, it’s his wet dream come true. Is it because Hancock too lenient and Labour want more?
Lord Sumption is in support of Simon Dolan
– ” The Government has no legal right to impose the severe and miserable restrictions on our lives with which it has wrecked the economy, brought needless grief to the bereaved and the lonely and destroyed our personal liberty.
This is the verdict of one of the most distinguished lawyers in the country, the retired Supreme Court Judge Lord Sumption.
He said last week in a podcast interview: ‘I don’t myself believe that the Act confers on the Government the powers that it has purported to exercise.’
He was referring to the Public Health Act of 1984, the basis for almost all the sheaves of increasingly hysterical decrees against normal life which the Health Secretary Matt Hancock has issued since March…”
…
Later: “Schoolboy Johnson’s lies keep getting bigger
Imagine a naughty schoolboy afraid to admit what started as a minor misdeed…”
– https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1305178039869939713
– Simon Dolan: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/lockdownlegalchallenge/
Rule of six
Bel Moony yesterday – I’ve had enough of this, Gov’t can Sod Off
I’m having Christmas for 14 – and no puffed-up Covid marshal will stop me
Good on Bel for speaking out. We’re having Christmas with four households, Gov’t can FO
There are 23 European Countries outside the EU. I would not include Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Russia, or Ukraine, as European personally. Albania Monenegro North Macedonia Serbia are integrating EU law into National Law while Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo are candidate yet to fulfil requirements.
Switzerland substitutes membership with bilateral treaties and as a member of the Schengen group is arguable more in the EU that the UK. Norway and Iceland are EEA members ie single market members which we are told is Brexit in name only.
That leaves Liechtenstein Monaco and San Marino with combined population about the size of Watford ..( roughly).Greenland is not a country really , its part of Denmark and is about half the size of Watford.
So the UK is right out there on its own and you are right Bongo it is in that sense a terrifying leap into the unknown with endless dangers and significant loss of growth.
Fair point
Sadly the old people who voted for it did not understand this and were rather, more concerned about the nasty swarthy man they saw in the town and ( quite genuinely) believed leaving would make the UK richer. Unlike revolutionary Fascism Brexit is overwhelmingly supported by the old and small c conservative generally with low educational levels.
I am not sure what your beef with CAP is, it is often criticised, but bearing in mind that the EU disperses about 0.7% of UK GDP compared top 40/50% by the UK government its role in our domestic lives is so vastly exaggerated I do not feel any special need to quibble about your hobbies. Whatever. .and End of.
Remainiacs (and Newmaniacs) love to point out that EU expenditure is small in comparison to national budgets. But they forget that governments actually do something (albeit quite badly and in an unnecessarily costly manner): health, defence, education, transport infrastructure, … The EU does none of these things, it’s just a vast talking shop that passes legislation which we’re required to follow, often at great expense and against our national interest.
But, of course, anyone who might wish to leave the shining city on a hill that is the EU must be a senile dribbling moron, unlike the youthful genius that Newmania has delusionally convinced himself he constitutes.
Newmania,
People voted for Brexit in order to restore democratic accountability to Britain. That’s it.
But by all means continue jerking yourself off.
Damn if Spud didn’t trip over another truth. Two in one year.
Fascism: strong, autocratic central control of a private economy.
The U.S. has 615 government agencies telling Americans how to live. Not suggesting. Demanding.
Newmania,
People voted for Brexit in order to restore democratic accountability to Britain. That’s it
Fucking awful referendum campaign then. Mentioned our constitutional arrangements once for every 100 anti immigrant smear
Joker
@Newmania – You clearly have advocating EU membership as a hobby of yours. So for existing EU members would you care to explain why the centralised to Brussels policy for handouts to farmland owners based on land area owned is a better system than the two most obvious alternatives? It’s only their biggest budget item.
If you don’t want to take that question on because you hate devolved environmental programmes and are sucking landowner cock today, try the same exercise on the EU’s 2nd biggest budget item. Tell us what it is, and why centralisation of policy is better for its members.
If someone was talking about the UK government as a thing of good I’d at least expect some justification of the centralised systems of healthcare and pensions, compared to the most obvious alternatives.
Newmonia. Let’s say ” the old people who voted for it (Brexit) did not understand this and were rather, more concerned about the nasty swarthy man they saw in the town” is true. But they were in the majority & you were in the minority. So your economic arguments are irrelevant. You lost. Get over it.
Violet Elizabeth Rochester-Newmania, would those be the same swarthy men that go around stabbing people in the street in Glasgow & Birmingham? In which case people are right to vote not to have them here.