Idiot damn fool

We are particularly worried to see the figures for Pakistani workers – paid lowest, against other counterparts despite holding higher degree level qualifications,” she said. “The government needs to ask what are the underlying causes for this inequality? We can’t explain it away by degree qualifications or socio-economic factors or ethnicity. Therefore, this suggests that invisible factors are working against South Asians.”

Sigh.

It said there were double-digit pay gaps for four groups of ethnic minority employees – 16% for people of Pakistani descent, 15% for white and black African, 15% for Bangladeshi and 13% for white and black Caribbean.

The ONS added that some ethnic groups had consistently earned more than white workers since the series began in 2012. In 2019 median hourly earnings for employees of white Irish ethnicity were 40.5% higher than those for other white employees at £17.55, while workers of Chinese ethnicity earned 23.1% more at £15.38 an hour and workers of Indian descent earned £14.43 an hour – a negative pay gap of 15.5%.

Indians are South Asians, Y/N?

16 thoughts on “Idiot damn fool”

  1. Dunno. Do these figures include employment in the family business?

    Most of the large scale VAT scams run on HMRC have a particular ethnic flavour, so I assume there’s some degree of fuckery in what they declare for income tax purposes too. (Amazing how many people drive BMW’s while pleading poverty, innit)

    See also: the plight of our travelling friends, who somehow manage to spend fortunes on weddings and the like despite officially being in poverty.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    The Meissen Bison October 13, 2020 at 11:45 am – “How come the bog-trotters come out on top of the heap?”

    Two possible solutions – 1. White Irish is an upper middle class affectation. Working class Irish people can’t be bothered. Or 2. Terry Wogan and Cherie Blair skewed the entire sample all by themselves

  3. Ah yes, the Indian/Pakistani attainment gap. It’s been well remarked-on for many years. It’s almost as if culture/class matters more than skin colour…

    But people who do not want to see it will never comprehend…

  4. I’m intrigued that they manage to get “black African” and “white and black African” as separate ethnicities. Presumably the latter are what we used to call Zebras.

  5. So Much For Subtlety

    Oblong October 13, 2020 at 11:54 am – “Ah yes, the Indian/Pakistani attainment gap. It’s been well remarked-on for many years. It’s almost as if culture/class matters more than skin colour…”

    It is almost as if there was a reason not to marry your cousin.

    Arthur the Cat October 13, 2020 at 11:58 am – “I’m intrigued that they manage to get “black African” and “white and black African” as separate ethnicities. Presumably the latter are what we used to call Zebras.”

    Thandie Newton?

  6. I would imagine the white Irish are busy tarmacing driveways and helping out little old ladies with roof repairs, that and other high value, tax efficient schemes.

  7. Did they control for purchasing power parity – not paying care home fees, vimto is cheaper than gin, and no need to buy new books as the total solution to how to live your life on earth has already been written.
    Just asking for my friend Ed Barber.

  8. “Taking into account factors such as age, sex, marital status, children, qualifications, country of birth and location of employees narrowed the gap for many ethnic groups, the ONS found.

    “Adjusting for pay determining characteristics influences the pay gaps observed, with a narrowing of pay gaps for most ethnicities,” it said. “This suggests that differences in the average characteristics of different ethnic groups were influencing the unadjusted pay gap, often overstating the difference.””

    So the differences were mostly down to the fact that middle-aged people get paid more after three or four promotions than entry-level youngsters – and most of the Pakistanis are young because their parents have bigger families. Once again the much-publicised “discrimination” is simply down to comparing unlike with unlike.

  9. Bangladeshis at £10.58 are only slightly ahead of Pakistanis on £10.55 and these are the only two categories that are obviously and almost entirely muslim as well as the predominant source of labour in sweatshops run and owned by people sharing their ethnic background.

    It might be worth exploring such factors before going like a ferret in pursuit of the institutionally racist rabbit.

    Possessing higher degree level qualifications does not square easily with a £10.55/hour wage.

  10. “Employers pay what they have to pay to attract and retain people who
    can do what they want done.” – GC

    ‘16% for people of Pakistani descent’

    Freshman in back of class raises hand. “I know! I know! People of Pakistani descent will work for 16% less!”

  11. An obvious solution is to forbid the entry of Pakistanis, Africans, West Indians and Bangladeshis.

    There you are. The government has nobly protected these poor helpless exploited people from the hideous oppression they’d suffer in the UK.

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