I’m not so sure about the heiress bit

Indignant and defensive: Ghislaine Maxwell deposition reveals side to heiress not seen before

To apply entirely incoherent psychological analysis to someone I’ve only met once and then for 5 minutes in a pub. Pre- all the stuff with Papa and the boat too.

I think she was going to be an heiress, was trained up to be one, educated so and so on. And then, for well known reasons, the inheritance rather didn’t come through. Leaving her with brains, contacts, education, a network, a name and so on. And a certain requirement to find the cash and position commensurate.

The rest of it following from that. As analysis this probably working about as well as getting a psychologist to comment on the scandium market but there we are.

Hmm:

Ms Maxwell has lived a sheltered existence, protected by powerful rich men who knew how to make problems go away.
For the first 30 years of her life, that man was her father, Robert Maxwell, the British media mogul who died mysteriously aboard his yacht – named The Lady Ghislane, after his youngest child – in 1991.
Stepping in to take his place was a young American financier, Jeffrey Epstein, a man of great wealth and connections.

I might not be alone in this analysis.

25 thoughts on “I’m not so sure about the heiress bit”

  1. She is an heiress in much the same way as Marie Melmotte in The Way We Live Now and the mysterious aspect of Robert Maxwell’s death was precisely that he was no longer on board his yacht.

  2. I downloaded her statement but haven’t had time to read it yet. Rather whingey by some accounts and no great revelations.

    Would have to go some to match child porn Hunter Biden with film of the fucker nude, smoking crack and firing sex talk at underage Chinese girls–not to mention sexual photos of his 14 year old neice–whose Mother–his own brothers widow–he’d already shagged.

    Plus massive corruption.

    Gamecock and other Americans yes–even Dennis–will the USA MSM news blackout on this be able to keep it away from enough people? If it became widely known Joe Whatsmyname(n Chinese)again? would have be finished .

  3. Here’s my somewhat shorter analysis:-

    Being disingenuous is not a Maxwell trait.

    Being a corrupt bare-faced liar is.

  4. Ms Maxwell has lived a sheltered existence, protected by powerful rich men who knew how to make problems go away.

    I imagine it was rather the opposite. She sheltered them from the annoying irritating details the rich & powerful don’t want to cope with. A social life PA.
    As for the talent, that’d be like going for a swim in a pool full of piranhas. There may well be attractive vulnerable young girls about. But I don’t know anyone who’s ever met one.

  5. I wonder what happens when it becomes plain that Ghislane had told those girls that they weren’t being hired for their wisdom and conversational skills about matters of great pith and moment.

    As time goes by I find myself more sympathetic to her. 24 hour CCTV, even on the bog, no visitors except lawyers… This might go on for years before trial.

  6. Does she know where her father’s money and his employees pensions went? I have a hunch she managed Epstein rather than the other way around. There is a great deal of scepticism about his transition from school teacher to billionaire…

  7. “….Jeffrey Epstein, a man of great wealth…”

    But he wasn’t. This is a man, who at his height, lived the lifestyle of a multi-billionaire, but was supposedly only worth a few hundred million (I know. The “only” there is doing a lot of work, but in those circles, these things are relative).

    The monumental lack of interest in any of this from the US media is quite breathtaking. How did this man get his money in the first place? How is that, for a claimed hedge-funder, no one can remember doing trades with him? Who actually funded him? The Russians? The Israelis?

  8. So Much For Subtlety

    philip October 23, 2020 at 10:02 am – “I wonder what happens when it becomes plain that Ghislane had told those girls that they weren’t being hired for their wisdom and conversational skills about matters of great pith and moment.”

    I like to be the most out-there person on this blog, but this is the moment where I pause and wonder what philip thinks she could have told a child that would make this all seem normal.

    It is a tough one really.

    You tell an 18 year old she is going to tug you off for cash, well, OK. I am sure there are circumstances where that seems appropriate. These girls were 15.

  9. SMFS,
    Not all girls lead sheltered lives. I expect the girls who have been paki sex toys since puberty would think it business as usual.

  10. I started watching the Netflix documentary on Epstein but got bored, mainly because it focused on drawn out interviews with some of the girls rather than answering the question of where his cash came from. However it was clear that, for many of the girls, wanking off an old bloke for $200 was a welcome relief (stop it) from their home life. While I appreciate that for some girls it was definitely abuse, others arrived sexually experienced and were not that bothered.

    The story of his money is far more interesting than his fondness for teenage hand jobs. Why did Leon Black pay Epstein $50m for personal trusts and estate planning advice? That wasn’t Epstein’s reputed area of expertise. Who funded the billionaire lifestyle and why? Why did Lex Wexner make Epstein his private wealth manager and tolerate being robbed blind by him?

    I notice that Maxwell has denied Rapey Bill was a visitor to Pedo Island, no doubt in order to protect herself. Who knows what the real story is? We’re never going to find out.

  11. Bloke in North Dorset

    Eric Weinstein, MD at Theil Capital amongst other things, talks about how he met Epstein and was not impressed/ He reckons there’s no way he was a money/wealth manager. He’s been on a bit of a crusade to try to get the US MSM to do some investigating, but ts all falling on stony ground.

    As time goes by I find myself more sympathetic to her. 24 hour CCTV, even on the bog, no visitors except lawyers… This might go on for years before trial.

    One person being suiceded can be explained away, or at least ignored, 2 really does look like a conspiracy. I wouldn’t say she’s completely safe but they, whoever they are, will need to be a bit more creative.

    This whole affair is definitely on of follow the money.

  12. @ Recusant:

    ” The monumental lack of interest in any of this from the US media is quite breathtaking. ……. Who actually funded him? The Russians? The Israelis?”

    Which nations funding of Epstein might lead to the lack of media curiosity? Solve that puzzle and you might be closer to the truth.

  13. @SMFS besides what BiS said…
    Do you really think Gold Diggers suddenly fully fledge when they become “legal age”?

  14. Re BiS, most of the quinceañeras in Callao have been old hands (fnarr fnarr) at that since the age of twelve.

  15. Before the pill American girls were taught to give blow jobs by their mothers.
    So I was told. Very good at it too, she was, even thought this was grandmother sucking eggs distance.

  16. These people are amateurs compared to Warren Beatty: “Just another day of fucking and sucking and coming in their hair”. Between the late 50’s to early 90’s, new pussy every day several times a day – you do the math. Old pussy like Julie Christie on the side until the late 70’s, on off.

  17. So Much For Subtlety

    bloke in spain October 23, 2020 at 12:07 pm – “It’s obvious you know zilch about 15 y/o girls”

    Really? I thought it was obvious I am not a pimp. I hang out with normal people. Who have normal children.

  18. So Much For Subtlety

    Grikath October 23, 2020 at 4:22 pm – “Do you really think Gold Diggers suddenly fully fledge when they become “legal age”?”

    No, I think it takes a while, some education and a lot of exposure to scum bags. All of which 15 year olds are and/or should be protected from.

    philip October 23, 2020 at 8:41 pm – “Before the pill American girls were taught to give blow jobs by their mothers.”

    And then philip becomes weirder. We know this is not true because in the West we used to have oral herpes and genital herpes. Now there is no meaningful distinction. Meaning oral sex used to be rare.

  19. “someone I’ve only met once and then for 5 minutes in a pub” – surely that’s enough to corrupt anyone.

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