Weirdly

The husband of a nurse killed by her policeman lover has said he is disappointed with the verdict, after the killer was sentenced to 10 and a half years in jail for manslaughter having previously been cleared of her murder.

The sentence isn’t far off what would be served for murder. For I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that the average served – the sentence is life by release on licence usually happens – is 7 years for murder. 10 and a half for manslaughter, half off as is usual, 5 and a quarter.

Sure, that 1 3/4 of a year will seem very long when serving it but the sentences aren’t hugely different, are they?

Perhaps Mr. Ludd QC could give us more detail?

25 thoughts on “Weirdly”

  1. He got away with manslaughter, claiming he “strangled her by accident” when he “slipped in all the melee”!?

    Fuck the fuck off. The criminal justice system looks after its own.

    I sincerely hope that he spends the utterly inadequate five-odd years in prison in a state of terror, alleviated only by beatings and buggery.

  2. The jury is responsible for this one, MC.

    Did they get a chance to rule on the murder charge, or was it just dropped?

  3. If I was in power I’d pass a law that said that the word of a policeman was worthless unless accompanied by independent evidence. They lie so habitually that they probably don’t even realise they are doing it.

  4. I wonder how long he lasts before applying for Rule 43 – total segregation from the main prison population – to spend his years with the nonces, paedos, rapists, and psychos, none of whom will think highly of him because of his job. Those years are going to go by ever so slowly.

  5. Surviving on one tin of Tuna a day, perhaps?
    I enjoyed the books Sir Pterry, and now you seem to be writing a different pen…

  6. My wife had to do a prison rotation during her nursing training, it was at one of the prisons for rule 43 and full of ex-police, paedophilles etc.
    She said she couldn’t shower enough at the end of each day after dealing with them and was only rotation she looked forward to the end of

  7. The average time served for the crime of murder in a UK prison is 16.5 years. It’ll be 2/3 served for this manslaughter verdict, not 1/2. He should have been hanged the evil c*nt.

  8. So Much For Subtlety

    Jim October 29, 2020 at 1:11 pm – “If I was in power I’d pass a law that said that the word of a policeman was worthless unless accompanied by independent evidence. They lie so habitually that they probably don’t even realise they are doing it.”

    By the time people get out of primary school they are usually aware of the fallacy that says because you know one Jewish guy who was a bit tight fisted, all Jews are misers.

    But that is not what concerns me today. I am more curious about where you all think this Teenage Trot-ness will lead? How exactly will proclaiming, enshrining in the legal system the presumption, that all policemen are liars help? I mean, do you think that will encourage a better class of man to apply to be a policeman or a worse? Do you think it will inspire policemen to be better people or worse?

    Just curious.

  9. SMFS,

    Even though I have members of my wider family who joined the police (thankfully none of my kids, but then I did bring them up with a healthy disrespect for the police), I still believe that decent people, in general, do not join up.

    My views have been informed by personal experience, including being assaulted and wrongful arrested, and the broader behaviour of the police.

  10. SMFS,

    I should’ve added, that, while I do not believe it should be enshrined in law, I always assume they are lying unless I have additional information to the contrary.

    What should not happen is an assumption, by the courts, that the police are persons of integrity who can be trusted. In my case, the police found another policeman, who was not there, to agree to perjure himself and testify that he had witnessed me assault the officer who had assaulted me. This was all to force me to drop my complaint.

  11. ” How exactly will proclaiming, enshrining in the legal system the presumption, that all policemen are liars help?”

    Stop miscarriages of justice?

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    There are a thousand and one ways that policemen can cause a miscarriage of justice. Simply assuming they are lying is not going the change that.

    What we need is to treat policemen with respect so that decent men will enter the profession. Treating them like crap means only garbage will take the job.

    And we need policemen.

  13. What we need is to treat policemen with respect so that decent men will enter the profession.

    That’s never going to happen until they start treating us with some respect.

  14. “There are a thousand and one ways that policemen can cause a miscarriage of justice. Simply assuming they are lying is not going the change that.”

    Well given they do lie habitually to the public, in written evidence and in person in court, what exactly do you propose to do about it? Just allow them to go on their merry perjuring way in the vain hope they might change?

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Wales October 30, 2020 at 4:52 pm – “That’s never going to happen until they start treating us with some respect.”

    The police put up with a great number of arseholes and they deal with shit all day long. I am amazed at how politely they treat me. I agree policemen are not what they used to be. But then the British are not either.

    It is a vicious circle and given you cannot change them, perhaps you should start with your own behaviour?

    Jim October 30, 2020 at 5:57 pm – “Well given they do lie habitually to the public, in written evidence and in person in court, what exactly do you propose to do about it? Just allow them to go on their merry perjuring way in the vain hope they might change?”

    That is not a given. It is a claim. It is also back to Teenage Trot illogic to assume that because some policemen lie it is reasonable to assume they all do. I am sure some people called Jim are rapists.

    If policemen are caught lying they should be fired. I think that it is by necessity a two way street. We treat them like they adhere to the highest standards of behaviour, they do adhere to the highest standards of behaviour – and when they don’t, we fire them.

  16. It is a vicious circle and given you cannot change them, perhaps you should start with your own behaviour?

    So what’s the point? We aren’t the ones paid to serve and protect all members of the public without bias. MrsBud is slowly coming around to my way of thinking as the evidence keeps piling up: if you assume that the filth are self-serving, lying thugs who only respect the law when it suits them you will never be disappointed and, just maybe, once or twice you may be pleasantly surprised. However, if you consider the police to be exemplars of integrity who selflessly serve the public and uphold the law without fear or favour, then you will have a lifetime of disappointment.

  17. “That is not a given. It is a claim. It is also back to Teenage Trot illogic to assume that because some policemen lie it is reasonable to assume they all do. I am sure some people called Jim are rapists.”

    Well thats a bit of a logical dead end. As far as I know there isn’t a national organisation of Jims, all claiming to have morals as pure as the driven snow, and given special powers to entertain the female half of the population. If there was, and the only qualification to join was being called Jim, and some of them were turning out to be rapists, then yes that would be a bit of a problem for the Society of Jims. It would lose all credibility and probably be closed down.

    And as for evidence, just look on youtube. More and more people are recording their interactions with the police, and showing them to be a bunch of inveterate liars, not just about what has happened but what the law actually is. Its probably always been the case, there probably wasn’t a golden era of policing moral integrity, but the internet and mobile recording devices is revealing the truth – policemen have far too many powers that they abuse on a daily basis. And its high time something was done about it.

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