Why did anyone think this wouldn’t happen?

Earlier parts of the inquiry, which have looked at institutions including the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church, focused on many of the worst-known scandals involving such organisations. It was anticipated that the organised networks strand of the inquiry would examine the most infamous examples of group grooming and exploitation.

Over the past decade, big trials have exposed a previously hidden crime model that involves the systematic targeting and sexual abuse of teenage girls by groups of men who were largely of south Asian origin.

Since 2011, groups have been prosecuted for sex-grooming in towns including Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford, Telford, Burnley, High Wycombe, Leicester, Dewsbury, Peterborough, Halifax and Newcastle upon Tyne.

The IICSA held two weeks of public hearings for its “organised networks” investigation from late September, and a final day for closing submissions is due to take place on Thursday. It decided to hear no evidence from survivors or those with expert knowledge of the crime pattern.

The inquiry chose instead to select six areas of England and Wales: St Helens, Tower Hamlets in east London, Swansea, Durham, Bristol and Warwickshire “because they represent a range of sizes, demographics and institutional practices”. None of the six has witnessed a major prosecution of a south Asian sex-grooming gang. In all six areas, according to the 2011 national census, the proportion of the population that is of Pakistani origin is lower than the national average.

Henrietta Hill, QC, lead counsel to the inquiry, told the hearing on its opening day that the inquiry “carefully considered the extent to which, if at all, it should focus on areas such as Rochdale, Rotherham and Oxford, all of which have attracted public attention”.

The IICSA decided, she explained, that it was “more appropriate” to focus instead on “different areas, not least because it was intended that this was a forward-looking investigation building on analysis that’s already been done”.

Lions, with fire.

Actually, lions with flamethrowers riding T-Rexs with head mounted laser beams.

22 thoughts on “Why did anyone think this wouldn’t happen?”

  1. No doubt they’re afraid that some poor victimised asylum seeker like the one in France will cut their heads off.

  2. I understand their origins are even more specific. To build a dam the British flooded a valley in Pakistan. They had to offer resettlement to the inhabitants, mostly illiterate peasants, clannish and very basic Moslems. They chose Girochdale, Bother’em, etc.
    David Goodhart has the details I think.

  3. Why would the British build a dam in Pakistan?

    Why has there not been a grooming scandal in London? It would otherwise seem that every area with the appropriate population would have the same problem. Makes you wonder whether anyone is looking for it.

  4. ‘forward-looking investigation’

    Wat? Researching the future?

    Same problem in U.S. The mostly peaceful protestors of BLM and Antifa are being made to look bad by white supremacists and Christians, who are the real problem.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    I understand their origins are even more specific. To build a dam the British flooded a valley in Pakistan. They had to offer resettlement to the inhabitants, mostly illiterate peasants, clannish and very basic Moslems. They chose Girochdale, Bother’em, etc.

    Never heard that story, but this is a story I was told and the later parts I remember …

    My father was raised in the slums of Bradford and despite being awarded a full scholarship to Bradford Grammar School he left school at 14 to work in the mills, until 1943 when he joined the Fleet Air Arm and went off to the Far East. (His brother was also awarded a full scholarship but had to go out to work instead).

    When he was demobbed he went back in to the mills. He said it was a shit job in a shit environment. The mills were badly run by poor management and received little investment, which was exacerbated by useless unions. He developed quite a contempt for unions, the working man’s greatest enemy*. His contempt for management was only slight less, but that intensified in the ’70s when he watched nationalised industries, but that’s another story.

    In the late ’50s in a vain attempt to save the mills young Pakistani men were brought across as cheap labour and started replacing locals, so there was already tension. It was never meant to be a long term strategy, or so the people in the local areas were told, so they weren’t allowed to bring their families. They came from some of the poorer areas and usually from the same regions and tribes.

    Now we move in to the era I remember. In the ’60s there was first a move for the men to bring across their wives, 1st cousins naturally, and if you objected you were shouted down as racists. When that battle had been won/lost depending on your viewpoint, the next move was to allow them to bring across close families, and if you objected you were shouted down as a racist. The final step was to allow extended family, again if you objected you were shouted down as a racist.

    That’s why the Pakistani communities of the West Riding and Lancashire mill areas all tend to be from the same area and managed to maintain their tribal customs, allegiances, practices and customs. Pakistanis who moved to other areas like London tended to come as individuals or small families without the extended families and tribes, from different areas, which is one reason we haven’t seen the grooming gangs in those areas.

    The rest is now recent history.

    *He said they were useless at negotiating, scared to strike and in many cases in awe of the bosses.

  6. Interesting take on the origin of these communities, BoND. Certainly makes sense. And it shouldn’t be hard to work out which towns haven’t had their grooming trials yet.

  7. What BiND says…

    You can see the same pattern all over Europe, across a fair number of imported nationalities:
    The “city-bred” imports have very little problem grabbing opportunities and assimilate pretty well, the “Provincials” very much do not and try to recreate their communities and culture if you let them.
    And the bigger the contrast, the worse it gets.

    The UK has Little Pakistan and Little India, the dutch have Little Morocco, the germans Little Turkey, The French …well.. we’ve seen that again recently..
    And they *all* have similar problems, including the grooming bit and other nasties.

    But pointing that out is Racist…

  8. Harry Haddock's Ghost

    The ‘anything but the truth’ project is only acting according to type, that being an organisation stuffed with, and designed by, the big state metropolitan elite. Their hatred of the English working class is visceral, and as most of the victims were of this class, they were never going to get a fair crack at the truth.

    Much better to concentrate on abuse carried out by various Christian organisations, as they are the main competition when it comes to looking down ones nose at the working man.

  9. @Grikath

    Southern Spain has German, British, Swedish, French enclaves too. There’s a natural tendency of people to clump because a lot of people just hate the idea of being somewhere foreign, they’re there for the weather, cheap booze, or work, or both, but would all rather be at home where people eat local food at local times, do local things in a local language…

  10. If there are towns with a large population of that type whuch have not had scandals yet, it is solely because they have been covered up. Bradford isn’t Oxford nor High Wycombe, no populations were shipped to those towns but the grooming happens* anyway.

    * Yes, present tense. Why not.

  11. “it was intended that this was […] building on analysis that’s already been done”

    In other words a meta-study. They don’t want to get their hands dirty, to do any real work; just sit in a nice air-conditioned office and make up theories about why bad things happen.

    Why make life difficult for yourself when you can make it easy instead?

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    As it happens I lived in a small village just outside High Wycombe for 20 years. I don’t know the full history of how the Pakistan community got there, except that it wasn’t to try to rescue the furniture industry.

    However, I had more than a few taxi drivers that recognised my Yorkshire accent and said they came from the north, so perhaps some natural migration towards areas that needed low skilled labour such as taxi drivering?.

  13. “The “city-bred” imports have very little problem grabbing opportunities and assimilate pretty well”

    This is the universal key. I couldn’t care less if someone is black. I care if someone is a non-productive, culturally vacant thug. The race baiters say they are discriminated against because of the color of their skin. That is a direct lie. Few give a shit about the color of their skin.

    Assimilate, or lose.

  14. This sounds like searching for the Loch Ness Monster in Lake Windermere, and then announcing it doesn’t exist.

  15. Clearly, as far as the Establishment is concerned, the feelings of muslims are more important than the lives and well-being of the English people.

    Shares in lamp post makers and piano wire manufacturers seem set to rise in the near future….

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