A significantly tin ear

Global feminism is like a tangle of cables, intertwined in complex knots. Those cables bind us to one another, transmitting our struggles in fractions of seconds. I have female friends who are Polish and Irish and American, and how they are treated by their home countries matters to me. But my solidarity stretches further than that, and is underpinned by a sort of simmering anger. I cried for American women when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, and I applauded with joy for Irish women (and later, thank God, for Northern Irish women too) when abortion was legalised there. I stand with Polish women, because their fight is also our fight: it’s a fight to be recognised as fully human, and to obtain the rights that come with that.

The entire conversation is about what is a human – is a fetus? At which point in development is it? – that accrues rights. It is, of course, entirely possible to differ over what that answer is. But you do have to have an exceptionally tin ear to put it the way Rhiannon just has done.

20 thoughts on “A significantly tin ear”

  1. I know it’s not the point you’re making here, but The Guardian reported that the ‘gender gap’ in voting Republican-vs-Democrat widened only “slightly”. So, in fact, everything Rhiannon has put is her own projection rather than what actually happened.

  2. Trump didn’t see women as fully human.

    Why, did he crush their tiny skulls in utero, mangle their bodies, then incinerate them as medical waste?

  3. Greek context:

    In his Politics, Aristotle saw women as subject to men, but as higher than slaves, and lacking authority; he believed the husband should exert political rule over the wife. Among women’s differences from men were that they were, in his view, more impulsive, more compassionate, more complaining, and more deceptive.

    All of this is true, as anybody who pays attention to the feline sex knows. Women are as mysterious, cruel, playful and graceful as cats. You must treat them gently, with patience and respect. But you wouldn’t let Princess Fluffybottom make important decisions about the fate of your nation, because that is madness.

    He gave the same weight to women’s happiness as to men’s, and in his Rhetoric stated that society could not be happy unless women were happy too.

    Umpteen decades of feminism has made the wimmins demonstrably less happy. What has voting and being pushed out of warmth of their loving homes and into the cruel coliseum of the modern workplace bought them?

    Empty wombs and crippling anxiety. SSRIs and wine boxes instead of happy, laughing children. Sterile pump-n-dump “relationships” that leave them used and bitter instead of holy matrimony. Pathetic, noodly-armed soyboy wimps who they rightly despise.

    We must conquer our women with love and tumescence, to make them as happy and fulfilled as the Sabine sisters. Per revealed preferences from women’s literature, being delightfully dominated by Darcy is what they really, really want.

  4. I cried for American women when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died

    The only saving grace about Biden winning (probably, yes, yes, EC has not voted yet) the Presidential election is that we haven’t been subject to the endless tears of devastated losers. I was hoping that would go away for a while – but no, they have something else to cry about! Great.

  5. Latest number I can find was 8,700,000+ abortions in the UK since it was legalised up to 2014. At c200,000 a year, we must have topped the 10,000,000 mark by now.

  6. “being delightfully dominated by Darcy is what they really, really want.”

    Not to mention that Mr Grey bloke.

    “Rich powerful successful older guy spanks younger woman’s bottom” proved very popular among women readers.

  7. “I cried for American women when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died”

    Ginsburg could have stepped down under Obama. She was 80 years old in 2013 and had been a Supreme Court judge for 20 years by then.

    I laugh every time a lefty cries. Ying and Yang, circle of life, balance of the universe.

  8. The arguments may be to do with a woman’s body and rights but the foetus is not part of her body. I suggest the author of no doubt a Guardian article Googles the essay ‘The Foetus as an Allograft’ and reads it.

  9. Crying, applauding, standing…

    I hope she works from home. It would be really annoying sharing an office with her.

  10. Bloke in North Dorset

    The only saving grace about Biden winning (probably, yes, yes, EC has not voted yet) the Presidential election is that we haven’t been subject to the endless tears of devastated losers. I was hoping that would go away for a while – but no, they have something else to cry about! Great.

    There was a bit of a Twatter storm the other day when someone said he was looking forward to the women’s protest march in Washington because at least this time the women will be good looking, and sane.

  11. They rarely stand with Muslim women.

    They do, but they seldom follow the issues Muslim women have to their logical conclusion and criticise Islam as they would the Patriarchy (if ever such an institution existed), since this would be “Wacist!”.

    One thing can’t be denied though.

    Islam is RIGHT about women

    🙂

  12. There’s nothing more noble than standing up for the right of drunk lazy sluts to use murder as a means of contraception.

  13. ‘Global feminism is like a tangle of cables, intertwined in complex knots.’

    Do y’all have any laws against torturing similes?

  14. I have foetal friends who are Polish and Irish and American, and how they are treated by their home countries matters to me. But my solidarity stretches further than that, and is underpinned by a sort of simmering anger. I feared for American foetuses when Ruth Bader Ginsburg was confirmed, and I cried for Irish foetuses (and later, for Northern Irish foetuses too) when abortion was legalised there. I stand with Polish foetuses, because their fight is also our fight: it’s a fight to be recognised as fully human, and to obtain the rights that come with that.

  15. There’s nothing more noble than standing up for the right of drunk lazy sluts to use murder as a means of contraception.

    I was trying to put together my thoughts about this, but quite frankly @MC your summary is about as succinct and to the point as any TL/DR.

  16. “it’s a fight to be recognised as fully human, and to obtain the rights that come with that.”

    But, Ivor, are you willing to accept that it is not a foetus until after 8 weeks?

    “2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.”

  17. ‘Global feminism’

    [citation needed]

    I doubt Asian and African women are involved. This is white Leftist women declaring their cause ‘global.’

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