Choose who you bed more carefully then, Love

The man I fell in love with and lived with for five years was an undercover police officer with a family’

Amusing to think of this the other way around. Say that the State, in the form of the police, sent around some female and fertile spy type who bedded and had children with the target of observation.

Would we regard this as different? I think we would, I think we’d say this was very different indeed.

So, that social equality of men and women……

31 thoughts on “Choose who you bed more carefully then, Love”

  1. What possible “operation” could have required the undercover puke to shack up with some female for years?

    If memory serves Casanova had a successful ploy where he got several women to agree to taking assorted supposed medications which he was to deliver to her cervix using that about him which was most suited to the task.

    There are a lot of dim women about–but what could some Plod gain by shacking up with one? That he couldn’t trick or beat out of her? Of course he gets a state-sponsored jolly he can walk away from. Get everything that’s on offer and then vanish with your identity hidden.

    Even old Casanova didn’t have a scam like that.

    And of course how much does all this nonsense cost us?

  2. ‘The man I fell in love with and lived with for five years was an undercover police officer with a family’ and?…. i’m picturing a pavarottiesque Dom Joly presenting his open palm to some bewildered bistro diners.

  3. What possible “operation” could have required the undercover puke to shack up with some female for years?

    It is an odd one. If shagging one of its female members is going to provide an entré, the internal security of any shadowy, threat-to-society group has to be as leaky as a rusty bucket. There’d have to be all sorts of other opportunities to penetrate it.

  4. A piece of utter cuntishness that fucked up women’s lives for nothing. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to so you can say someone was “known to police.” Just about justifiable if we were talking about suicide bombers, but these harmless losers? What was wrong with the time honoured practice of fitting somebody up on a drug charge and turning them into a narc? Seems to me that coppers have the same problem as teachers, their job is basically dull and repetitive so they try and spice it up.

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  6. I’m with Roué le Jour, if we’re talking terrorists with a threat to lives in the near future, I can see a case for sanctioning such an operation if there were no viable alternatives, but targeting organisations who are not a threat to public safety, while possibly being a threat to illegal police activities, cannot be justified. It wouldn’t be justified for scum like Extinction Rebellion, not that the police can be arsed to protect the public from them in any case.

  7. Just about justifiable if we were talking about suicide bombers, but these harmless losers?

    A cynic might say that terrorists are a threat to the public whilst these guys are a threat to the State. And that in a the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend sense, the terrorists & the State are essentially on the same side.

  8. “….Say that the State, in the form of the police, sent around some female and fertile spy type who bedded and had children with the target of observation.

    Would we regard this as different? I think we would, I think we’d say this was very different indeed.”

    Indeed again! I’d say that we were living in a James Bond movie…..

  9. BiS,
    Nail, head. I’m not optimistic about the outcome of any lockdown 2 protests.

    It’s reminiscent of what Solzhenitsyn said about the relative treatment of criminals vs. political prisoners in the gulag.

  10. Say that the State, in the form of the police, sent around some female and fertile spy type who bedded and had children with the target of observation.

    Would we regard this as different?

    What, you mean like Sasha Baron Cohen did in the new Borat film when he honey-trapped Giuliani? Somehow, that was the man’s fault for refusing to spurn the attractive young woman who was coming on to him. It’s always the man’s fault.

  11. “I’d say that we were living in a James Bond movie…..”

    We’re not? With Herr Schwab as the supervillain plotting world domination from his Austrian/Swiss mountain lairs?

    And two James Bonds dead so far this year. Not looking good.

  12. Roue,

    “Seems to me that coppers have the same problem as teachers, their job is basically dull and repetitive so they try and spice it up.”

    There’s lots of teachers who love what they do. Yeah, the money, holiday and pension are good, but the good ones get a kick out of kids learning things.

    Most cops are just bureaucrats now. I can’t imagine the coppers I knew from the 1980s being cops now. Imagine having to knock on some old person’s door because they have a golliwog in the window? What sort of a Little Eichmann do you have to be to find that a satisfying thing to do? Or stand there as some hippies block the roads? The SPG would have dealt with Extinction Rebellion in a matter of minutes.

  13. “What possible “operation” could have required the undercover puke to shack up with some female for years?”

    As others hare have noticed, the organisations the women were involved in were rather bland when it comes to Terr’sm..
    However, they are a recruiting ground for the ..less sociable.. aspects of activism. Which groups most definitely do damage and need watching. And you can’t just join that lot…
    Those groups are not stupid… And quite Uncivilised when it comes to failures and moles… You’re not cuddling Fluffy Bunnies here.

    So undercovers have to get in on the ground level, and work themselves up. Which may require “wetwork”, like the *ahem* ladies in question experienced. Welcome to the Spy Game, which doesn’t just happen in James Bond movies.
    Pre-Internet that kind of thing required a lot more…hands-on.. work.

    In all the cases described, the ladies were idealistic, active in the Fringe, and quite, quite naïve.. If they would have been males, they’d have been the Perfect Victim for a lovely Femme Fatale in a Hollywood movie script. Except that that trope is so old, it doesn’t really work.
    The reverse, however…. Likely bloke joins the Brotherhood after proving himself, etc… As tropey, but it does work.

    The real amateurish bit is that they used cops with wife and kids.. What idiot supervisor allows undercover operatives with obvious liabilities in an operation?

  14. @Grikath. Yep, the women tend to be very naive in these extreme lefty groups. That’s why it’s not just undercover police officers who take advantage of them. Its common for men to pretend to believe in the feminism and other SJW aspects in order to bed the women.

  15. BoM4,
    I was referring to new math, new ways of learning to read etc. which alienate the parents and smack of not wanting to do the same old thing over and over for forty years. Similarly being a copper is mostly filling in forms these days, I expect they relish the opportunity to attack “enemies of the state” without thinking through where that inevitably leads.

  16. So Much For Subtlety

    It is obvious why the police were spying on these people. It says so in the article:

    It’s now known that Jenner and Kennedy were respectively part of the Met Police’s SDS – formed in 1968 in response to unrest over the Vietnam War – and NPOIU, which was set up in 1999 and focused on animal rights and green activists.

    The Anti-Vietnam War protests were funded by Hanoi and hence Moscow. Naturally they were spied on. Should have been executed. And Animal Rights groups have killed people. They have assaulted harmless scientists. They have imposed millions of pounds of costs on people. Of course the police should spy on them.

    My objection is that they didn’t do more.

    So some men promised these women they loved them and then took off? These women got off lucky At least they didn’t take the house and left the children.

  17. So Much For Subtlety

    I have no idea. I don’t think the police need to wait until a group kills someone before taking an interest in them.

    We have had a serious problem with Animal Rights terrorists – at least it is serious if you do any work with animals. The police should keep an eye on these people.

    If I did everything those police officers did, would it be a crime? Well no. We have deregulated marriage and now it is an anarchic free-for-all. So it is not good behaviour but it is hardly a crime.

  18. I strongly suspect that this is analogous to councils using the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act to spy on people suspected of fly tipping, abusing school catchment areas, feeding pigeons, etc. In the first example, the organisation does not appear to be violent, but it may uncover police corruption and abuse, and the filth certainly can’t tolerate that.

  19. Oh, and yes, I think the police should wait until a group actually breaks the law or makes it clear that it intends to break the law before it takes an interest in them.

  20. @DocBud: It’s not “associated with” .. It’s “connected to” and “giving access to”.

    The ladies presented in the article as Innocent Victims roll in circles where people are not Innocent, and intend to make Victims…
    The article itself very carefully avoids and/or downplays that connection.

  21. Quickly skimming the article I see that some of the police fathered children, although none of the women interviewed seem to be in that circumstance.

    Don’t know what the law is in Britain, but here in New York child support is a mandatory minimum of 17% of the father’s income per kid, whether or not the father and mother were married. Payable from age zero to the greater of 19, or 24 if the kid is pursuing post high school education.

    Who’s paying the British equivalent of that to the mothers of the undercover cop’s kids now, the undercover cop, the metropolitan Police slush fund?

    The kid is blameless, he deserves child support.

  22. If you want to be a “person of interest” to Plod then start looking into Council and Plod corruption capers.

    SMFS–though generally sound your cop-sucking nasty streak does no credit either to your intelligence or moral compass. It would be well deserved poetic justice if you found yourself–as many unfortunates have-in the wrong time/place and caught a good hiding from your cop heroes for nothing.

    You of course would say that it was a small price to pay for law and order.

    Robert Anton Wilson observed once that the deepest circle of Hell is reserved for those who believe they must believe in Hell because they will go there if they don’t.

  23. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks November 1, 2020 at 6:57 pm – “It would be well deserved poetic justice if you found yourself–as many unfortunates have-in the wrong time/place and caught a good hiding from your cop heroes for nothing.”

    Indeed. You have wished such a fate on me in the past. But it is more likely that I will be screwed over by the police if we listen to you and treat policemen as scum. Then we will get scum. I would also be more likely to be victimised by a criminal.

    “You of course would say that it was a small price to pay for law and order.”

    The alternative is that we get to hunt down criminals ourselves and hang them from trees. I don’t think that is preferable. If there is a third option you have never suggested what it is.

    “Robert Anton Wilson observed once that the deepest circle of Hell is reserved for those who believe they must believe in Hell because they will go there if they don’t.”

    How does that even make sense?

  24. ‘The man I fell in love with and lived with for five years was an undercover police officer with a family’

    So you really didn’t love him. Just faked it. Women are so fickle.

  25. Roué le Jour says it for me.

    A piece of utter cuntishness that fucked up women’s lives for nothing… Just about justifiable if we were talking about suicide bombers, but these harmless losers?

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