Criminal responsibility

Not sure about this:

The age of criminal responsibility in England and Wales should be reviewed because of mounting evidence that 10 is too young and puts the UK out of kilter with most other countries, the all-party justice committee has said.

The MPs said the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) should carry out an immediate review into the implications of raising the age to 12 – the same as in Scotland – or to 14, as in Germany, Italy and Spain.

The move follows evidence from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, the Youth Justice Board and the chief inspector of probation, all of whom argued that 10 was too young and that children’s brains were not mature enough for them to fully understand the consequences of their actions.

The current situation is that 10 year olds can be held criminally responsible but mostly are not. The change suggested is to where they cannot be held so responsible.

I don’t see any gain from the change so why make it?

17 thoughts on “Criminal responsibility”

  1. One assumes they don’t like not being in step with everyone else. I of course feel that one of the joys of independence is the ability to give the finger to foreigners.

  2. The lower age is largely a response to fast maturing brown boys who are quite capable of committing serious offenses while their white contemporaries are still playing with their lego. Yet another benefit of multiculturalism.

  3. To young to be criminally competent, yet the “progressives” are demanding that some of them be allowed to vote.

  4. So Much For Subtlety

    The move follows evidence from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, the Youth Justice Board and the chief inspector of probation

    All of whom clearly prefer criminals to law abiding people and so want as many criminals out of prison as possible.

    I don’t see why we should listen to them

  5. ‘puts the UK out of kilter with most other countries’

    MY GAWD! YOU DON’T WANT TO BE OUT OF KILTER !!!

    You should want to be more like Scotland. Or Germany!

    Why even have separate countries?

    SMFS is spot on: you shouldn’t be listening to these people, anyway. Governments aren’t created to help the guilty. They are to protect the innocent.

  6. The current situation is that 10 year olds can be held criminally responsible but mostly are not. The change suggested is to where they cannot be held so responsible. I don’t see any gain from the change so why make it?

    The simple answer here being that if this had been the case previously then Thompson and Venables would have walked away Scot free from the murder of Jamie Bulger. Same for Mary Bell who was 10/11 when she committed her child murders.

    Is something like that possible again? Yes, absolutely. So lets remember Chesterton’s Fence and not change something that was necessary in the past to avoid a travesty of justice and will probably be necessary in the future.

    Let the lefty lawyers whinge and moan all they like.

  7. Kilter is from an (indeterminate) English dialect. One of those unusual words that only exists in the negative – things can be ‘out of kilter’, but not (except for humorous effect) ‘in kilter’ (cf. ‘gruntled’).

  8. In my experience as a Police Officer,most of the juveniles I dealt with knew what they were doing was wrong, even at the tender age of 10.

  9. Clearly we should conform to some form of bien pensant acceptable standard despite our different culture, demographics and legal system

    Strange is it not how diversity is good but conformity is simultaneously essential

  10. johnd2008,

    But how many current police officers know it is wrong to persecute people for not wearing a face nappy, going to the gym, having granny over for Christmas dinner, sitting on a park bench for more than 45 seconds, or walking the dog on a barren moor?

    There is no evidence of any police officers refusing orders to persecute people for these new “crimes” so all police officers fall into 1 of 2 categories:
    (1) Know it is wrong to do so but obey orders anyway, to keep their job/quiet life etc.
    (2) Don’t know it is wrong to do so and obey orders.

    What’s the ratio?

  11. At some point, it doesn’t matter whether the perp knows it’s wrong or not. Gang raping girls should yield prison sentences.

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