These are the people Smurf wants to have more power over us:
Like many, I suspect, I spent yesterday evening in a state of fevered anger with a government and Prime Minister so incompetent that they could not organise the time of a press conference, let alone a coherent announcement on what to do about the crisis that we face.
Of course, he would say that he wants different people to be exercising the greater power over us but that never really does work. In any form of democracy eventually the idiots will get in. Something which applies wherever your place on the political spectrum or where you identify the idiots to be – but I repeat myself.
What Covid 19 reminds us of is the fact that we do not live an existence independent of nature. Our desire to treat ourselves as entities apart from the world in which we live has been supported by advances in various fields of science, most especially since WW2. But Covid is an abrupt reminder that ultimately any such claim is futile. We live within a larger ecosystem, and like it or not there is literally nothing we can do about that.
Well, that puts paid to the idea of civilisation then which is, by definition, the attempt to create our environment.
If we appreciate the fact that nature constrains us we then have to reappraise our consumption of the natural world. The way we live is unsustainable. Someone once said that only the insane and economists think we can sustain exponential growth in a finite world. They were right. But the trouble is that economists have persuaded the world that insanity is acceptable. It isn’t. It is unsustainable. We cannot keep living the way we do.
That’s just the usual idiocy. We add value through ideas. Either ideas of how to do so or ideas of what value is. As long as we keep having the ideas we can continue to add value. Economic growth is adding more value. The finity of the natural world isn’t even a relevant concept to this let alone a constraint.
In that context it is particularly poignant that it is Christmas that now seems to be the focus of concern for many. This is now the great secular festival of consumption. I have seen news reports of those who have already got their Christmas decorations up as if this will provide a dose of something equivalent to soma in Huxley’s ‘Brave New World’ – a holiday from the world around us. It won’t. What we need to do instead is embrace that world. After all, the global climate and biodiversity crises to come are vastly bigger than this Covid crisis. We need to take what is happening as the warning sign we need and begin the consumption lockdown required to tackle them, now.
Can’t you just hear that licking of lips that accompanies the insistence upon the firm thwack of control over consumption by those proles out there?
Third, I am pleased that lockdown is such an issue. What it highlights is that what really matters are our relationships with others. The normal social interactions that make life possible on a daily basis matter more than almost anything else to us – and for the vast majority these are not focussed solely on family, but extend far beyond that. If we can reconsider how we live in community, and put much more effort into considering how to do this better than maybe we will eventually learn something from this crisis. The reorientation from consumption to community is the great change that Covid demands.
Idiot. That time with family is, by economic definition, consumption. Jeez, you’d think a man with three professorships in the subject would grasp that by now.
Only government has the ability to manage a nation’s response to its environment. And only governments can, by cooperating, do that for the world. There is no chance of us achieving the changed relationship that we must have with the world around us unless government takes the lead. Far too few of them – our own included – are willing to play any effective part in this process. Far too many want to outsource that response to the private sector, believing that a few tweaks to regulation will deliver salvation through a very slightly modified profit motive. There is not a shred of evidence to support that idea. The insanity of the economists is still corrupting the behaviour of governments. We have to demand that it change.
Huhn. Only government can get you to cycle instead of drive. Didn’t know that myself.
In the process we have to also reappraise the relationship between the state and private sectors. If we have a problem it is because an intensely selfish attitude to life – implicit in all that the neoliberal creed defines to be of value – has resulted in our abuse of nature, the planet, community and each other, come to that.
The neoliberal creed defines value tautologically. What people value is what we observe that people value. Not really sure that there’s any other way of doing it either. Well, firm thwack of Snippa of course but sensible other means.
Over consumption that has divorced us from nature and many of those around us did not happen by chance. It was created. And it was deliberately designed to be divisive. Materialism did not just exploit a difference between the haves and the have nots: its whole purpose was to exacerbate it. What we have, and not what we are, was intended to define who we are conceived to be. Never was anything so destructive.
Back to neoliberalism and definitions of value. The entire point of the neobastardsimposinguponus is that each individual gets to define what they value then pursue it.
The state has to address this if the problem of over-consumption is to be addressed. And it now has the opportunity to do so. Never has so much that has been conspicuously consumed been of such little relevance when we do not have the opportunities to flaunt it. We should be seeing much if it for what it is in that case: pretty worthless cumber might be my best description of it.
Thwack, you will stop desiring that pretty dress for the party. Thwack, a second bowl of gruel?
And the state has the chance to reinforce this message right now: it could, for me ample, change the laws on advertising to disallow some of it, most especially when aimed at children. And it could increase its cost by denying the right of a business to reclaim on it. These are small changes: they indicate a direction of travel and a desire to tackle the advertising industry, which is the only human activity solely dedicated to the creation of unhappiness with our current state of wellbeing.
The largest single advertiser in the UK being HMG. Which might well create unhappiness, yes.
But the issue goes much further than that. Reduce advertising and we have a media problem: quite literally much of what we call the media cannot survive without advertising, so hooked on excess consumption are we. But nor can we survive without media now. And we need not do so. It is entirely possible for the state to support the media – with funding – but the condition must be access and a broad base of views, something rarely available at present.
Who is going to give me an over and under on neoliberals being able to access this state funding?
We, as a society, can decide what we value. We can decide to have more healthcare, social care, education, equality, and fairer criminal justice if we wish for it. We can support those who work in such fields. We will have to consume less at full employment if we do so, but as noted, that is in any case necessary. And yes, we would at full employment pay more tax than now. That would be the price of constraining inflation, but we might willingly pay it.
We can also direct the type of business we want too. If we did not know that before, we do now. And we have found that cafes matter more than banks, cinema more than hedge funds, and dare I say it, ultimately that public spaces matter more than cars. We can decide to prioritise shared experience and the simple pleasures that Covid has taught us matter most. We can redirect resources. We can deliver what is good, even when nature demands we consume less, and be better off.
All of which rather hits that base assumption that utility is personally defined, doesn’t it? A point that does rather hit at this assumption that “society” can determine what is of value.
And here it comes:
Of course the financial edifice designed to extract the value of our work from us – whether by rent or interest payment – will have to be curtailed if this is to be achieved. These two curses literally enslave us. We actually have to see them in that light, for that is what they set out to achieve, aided and abetted once more by the advertising industry whose goal it is to ensnare us within the demands of these oppressors. This is where the revolution (not physical, but of culture and deed) is required.
We’ll have to curb the Joos, eh?
Which is odd given this:
Norman Willcox says:
November 1 2020 at 9:39 am
These sorts of wishes can be achieved only after a complete disaster has forced them on us. The words are good but achieve nothing.Reply
Richard Murphy says:
November 1 2020 at 9:44 am
Without the words nothing happens, at allWords always come first
So now we see where the inspiration comes from – the first words of Genesis seem to echo through that, don’t they?
I’d say that most people’s anger about Christmas is about meeting their families. I’ll still be getting Amazon to send gifts to my family. Covid doesn’t stop that. But I’m really going to miss sharing a cracking bottle of wine with my father-in-law.
He says that the media can’t survive without advertising. Tim Pool (there are many other reporters and commentators) does extremely well without much advertising as they get their funds direct from the viewer. So they are cutting out the middle man, just like Trump cutting out the media and tweeting direct to the public.
“…what really matters are our relationships with others. The normal social interactions that make life possible on a daily basis matter more than almost anything else to us – and for the vast majority these are not focussed solely on family…”
Says an intolerant, rude, self-righteous and censorious egomaniac.
What it highlights is that what really matters are our relationships with others.
Well I would not normally think someone’s private life is fair game but he did go there. So. How is his wife? This is wife number …. three?
Over consumption that has divorced us from nature
Ritchie wants to meet Nature in a more intimate personal environment? By all means. Covid-19 is pretty much nature.
It was created.
It might have escaped naturally.
Materialism did not just exploit a difference between the haves and the have nots: its whole purpose was to exacerbate it.
Napoleon Chagnon did not find those nice Yanomamo people all that friendly. Although some have tried to blame materialism.
So now we see where the inspiration comes from – the first words of Genesis seem to echo through that, don’t they?
Not to be a pendant, but you mean the Gospel according to John.
One of the most striking features of this pandemic has been the almost complete failure of the public sector to deal with it successfully. It is no surprise that the British public sector is leading the world in failure but it’s been the case everywhere.
The lesson should be that more government = more shitness. However, the other thing that has become clear is how cowed and fearful and submissive to authority most people are. They’ll eat as much shit as is piled in front of them.
“We, as a society, can decide what we value.”
Unfortunately for trex-professori, society seems to decide they don’t much care for trex-professori pontificating from an ivory tower.
In that context it is particularly poignant that it is Christmas that now seems to be the focus of concern for many. This is now the great secular festival of consumption.
On the basis that if you can’t beat them, join them, early Christians decided that Saturnalia would be designated as marking the birth of Jesus.
Another Christian cleberation that’s gone full circle.
“The normal social interactions that make life possible on a daily basis matter more than almost anything else to us – and for the vast majority these are not focussed solely on family, but extend far beyond that”
Just the sort of thing you might expect a divorced sociopath to write.
The rest is just an idiot’s interpretation of Marx and Engels – a stupid person’s paraphrase of the Communist Manifesto
Theo: Says an intolerant, rude, self-righteous and censorious egomaniac…
…whose only friends are people who have never met him face to face (i.e. Pilgrim Slight Retard and other members of the claque)
The only mood lightening bit of yesterdays face was the rumour that vSunak had resigned.
That would be a major hammer blow to Blojob. The scummy little Macron clone wants to be PM and must have realised by now his wagon is hitched to a nose-diving turd.
I wonder what the press conference delay REALLY was–trying to decide what to do/arsing around with lying slides/trying to persuade Sunak not to bail.
I hope it was the third option.
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“So now we see where the inspiration comes from – the first words of Genesis seem to echo through that, don’t they?
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Not to be a pendant, but you mean the Gospel according to John.
There appears to be a man in Ely who thinks that his is the word of God. This person is (how can I put this politely?) has some disturbance of mind. I wonder if he wears a Napoleonic tricorn hat when he’s playing with his train set.
‘The way we live is unsustainable.’
Yep. You’ll be dead in 20 years. +/-
‘We cannot keep living the way we do.’
Surrender now. Resistance is futile.
‘After all, the global climate and biodiversity crises to come are vastly bigger than this Covid crisis.
Yawn. I’ve been waiting over 30 years for the ‘crises to come.’ I’ve moved on.
‘We need to take what is happening as the warning sign we need and begin the consumption lockdown required to tackle them, now.’
He’s broke. He wants – demands – others to share his misery. Communism is sharing . . . poverty.
‘The reorientation from consumption to community is the great change that Covid demands.’
Lockdown = isolation from community.
Just when you think Murph couldn’t get any dumber.
‘It is entirely possible for the state to support the media – with funding’
State funding = state control. Which is what he wants. Of everything. “We tried freedom. It didn’t work out. People kept doing the wrong things.”
Why does he so *loath* the communication of information – which is solely what advertising is.
It very much sounds to me — with his talk of government using sticks to force businesses into alignment, the greater good of society, and suchlike — as though Snippa is actively advocating fascism.
DK
Of course the financial edifice designed to extract the value of our work from us
What, HMRC?