One bit jars here

Trumps claims are, of course, nonsense. We knew some states, where counting was not permitted until voting ended, would be delayed. We knew there would be significant numbers of postal votes. We knew they would be predominantly Democrat votes.

Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?

33 thoughts on “One bit jars here”

  1. ” Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?”

    Because Dems, after the polls have closed, always seem able to find bags full of apparently ‘mislaid’ votes which fortuitously just happen to be for the Dem candidate and which, equally fortuitously, just happen to overturn a Republican candidates majority.

  2. From wsws – The Democrats “have blocked the Green Party from obtaining ballot status in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and the Socialist Equality Party from obtaining ballot status in Michigan”
    Did the Republicans try to keep the Libertarian candidate off the ballot in any key States.

  3. There is some knowledge of the districts that have applied for postal voting in greater numbers. Also past patterns for the more limited postal voting in the past. And finally many – most even – postal votes have already been counted so we know how the lean R/D

  4. Because Democrats tend to live in rural parts, far from polling stations. They prefer to post their ballots rather than drive half an hour to the polling station.

    Also, old people in retirement homes can’t easily get to the polling stations, so they use their postal ballot to vote Democrat, like all old people do.

  5. Wouldn’t we get lots of districts with >100% turnout if the “mislaid votes” hypothesis is correct?

    Not discounting it, just asking.

  6. Dennis, Bullshit Detector

    Because Democrats tend to live in rural parts, far from polling stations.

    Bullshit. Trump won massively in rural areas in 2016 and is doing the same in 2020. Go look at the numbers for both elections. You might have been right in 1970, but in today’s USA Democrats tend to live in urban areas… It isn’t Republicans who are voting Democrat for the mayors of NYC, LA, SF, Atlanta, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, etc.

    They prefer to post their ballots rather than drive half an hour to the polling station.

    Also bullshit. Mail-in balloting in rural areas is marginally higher, but not significantly so. Again, look at the 2016 numbers.

  7. Dennis, He Who Has Never Claimed Infallibility

    BiG –

    At times it’s hard to know where stupid ends and sarcasm begins.

  8. @Oblong

    Yeah I notice a lot of people in this thread (and elsewhere) applying UK election thinking to a US election. For a Brit it’s worth parking what you think you know at the door.

    A big difference is how in the UK early results come from cities and rural areas report later – even during a Tory landslide you usually see Labour ahead at the start of the night. In the USA, when you’re looking at live state vote-counts, the reverse tends to be true – high-population urban counties usually take longer to count so report last. Another important difference is that whether postal votes get counted first or last depends on state. And postal votes don’t follow the same patterns as they do in the UK. Even when a state’s count is 80% in and one candidate is a few percent ahead, it’s worth looking at what kinds of votes that are left and where they’re from before concluding anything, since the ones that are left can easily tilt 60-40 or even 70-30.

    Frankly a terrible way of doing it if you don’t want it to look like a vote has been rigged or stolen…

  9. Tim, Trump has made a big thing of saying “Coronavirus is just a ‘flu” and telling all his supporters to vote in person on the day. Biden has said “coronavirus is serious: wear a mask” – so most of those using mail-in ballots are those supporting Biden. That’s going to be the case if there is *nil* cheating.

  10. To follow up Ears’ comment, we in the UK are used to General Election reporting, where each counted district has (close to) the same population, so Islington North and Sunderland finish first ‘cos their population is so dense the whole district is only half a mile across, so their Labour result always arrives in the first dozen; but Richmondshire is about 300 miles across, so takes several hours just to get the ballot boxes back to the count office before they can even start counting.

    In the US presidential election, they are counting by what we would call Polling Districts, which have different populations because they are arbitary chunks of geography, not numerically-equal chunks of population. And in the US they tend to use “counties” of similar geographical size to do the vote count, so ten square miles of Chicago has many many more voters than ten square miles of Ouanquèouef, Alabama, so the Chicago count takes longer, so the DEM totals are declared later.

    And the Electoal College is exactly the same as how we pick our chief executive. We The People don’t pick him, the MPs that we elect picks him, just as the Electors the US People elect pick the US Chief Executive.

  11. It’s simple.

    Trump said vote on Election Day

    Biden said postal vote

    Ritchie may be an idiot but a stopped clock and all that

  12. “Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?”

    There’s a clue in Toni Blair’s law to make postal voting and cheating easier in Britain.

  13. I apologise for repetition, but the secret ballot was an important innovation* because it makes coercion and bribery impossible, since nobody can be certain how you vote. Any absentee ballot removes that protection (and also makes it that much less certain that the person casting the vote is actually who they claim to be), which is why I think it should be tightly restricted to those with a genuine need.

    * not sure when it came in – 1832 Electoral Reform? Certainly, prior to that there are published records of how every individual voted in elections.

  14. Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?

    Fraud. Easy answer huh?

    Dem’s motto “Vote early, Vote often” – Busing
    Same as in UK with Labour – 20 living in 1 bed flat in Tower Hamlets
    .

    Hold on US vote counting is ‘very unfortunate and odd’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwAacpM00e
    eg Pennsylvania, Arizona and more

    Oh, hold on count to “find” Biden ballots
    There is ‘something odd about postal votes which magically materialised’ for Biden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QOspRI9Sw

    In USA many Dem Govners have ruled signature on postal ballot must Not be checked against on file signature; the dead can vote too

    Then there’s Republicans not allowed to monitor count, but Dems can
    Same as in 2016
    Republicans: Pennsylvania vote counters keeping out poll watchers with ‘police barricade’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoxeL8V__E

    Democrats allowed in to watch count, Republicans refused entry and blocking their windows with white board in other Dem states
    Democrats? Like GDR, DRNK

    Voter Fraud
    the “scary thing about this election” has been the threats of violence and legal disputes on behalf of the left and the Democrats
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l43lMZav1DA

    Then there are Veritas exposures
    eg USPS Whistleblower Details Directive From Superiors To Back-Date Late Mail-In-Ballots Nov 3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6xOuhsiJw

  15. It is because Republican dead stay dead. Democrats can still move around and vote when dead. Hell, Biden is even making a run for President and I’m not convinced he is still alive.

  16. Ooops mean to say but they can’t travel to the polling station as bits will still be falling off and it will take them too long to get there in the zombie walk,

  17. Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?

    Fraud. Easy answer huh?

    Dem’s motto “Vote early, Vote often” – Busing
    Same as in UK with Labour – 20 living in 1 bed flat in Tower Hamlets
    .

    Hold on US vote counting is ‘very unfortunate and odd’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwAacpM00e
    eg Pennsylvania, Arizona and more

    Oh, hold on count to “find” Biden ballots
    There is ‘something odd about postal votes which magically materialised’ for Biden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QOspRI9Sw

    In USA many Dem Governors have ruled signature on postal ballot must Not be checked against on file signature; the dead can vote too

    Then there’s Republicans not allowed to monitor count, but Dems can
    Same as in 2016
    Republicans: Pennsylvania vote counters keeping out poll watchers with ‘police barricade’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoxeL8V__E

    Democrats allowed in to watch count, Republicans refused entry and blocking their windows with white board in other Dem states
    Democrats? Like GDR, DRNK

    Voter Fraud
    The “scary thing about this election” has been the threats of violence and legal disputes on behalf of the left and the Democrats
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l43lMZav1DA

  18. Why, or how, do we know that postal votes will be largely D?

    Fraud. Easy answer huh?

    Dem’s motto “Vote early, Vote often” – Busing
    Same as in UK with Labour – 20 living in 1 bed flat in Tower Hamlets
    .

    Hold on US vote counting is ‘very unfortunate and odd’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwAacpM00e
    eg Pennsylvania, Arizona and more

    Oh, hold on count to “find” Biden ballots
    There is ‘something odd about postal votes which magically materialised’ for Biden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QOspRI9Sw

    In USA many Dem Govners have ruled signature on postal ballot must Not be checked against on file signature; the dead can vote too

    Then there’s Republicans not allowed to monitor count, but Dems can
    Same as in 2016
    Republicans: Pennsylvania vote counters keeping out poll watchers with ‘police barricade’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoxeL8V__E

    Democrats allowed in to watch count, Republicans refused entry and blocking their windows with white board in other Dem states
    Democrats? Like GDR, DRNK

  19. There is ‘something odd about postal votes which magically materialised’ for Biden

    Indeed, truck-loads of Biden votes posted affter election day being counted

    Veritas exposures: Institutional Voter Fraud – USPS backdating balllots on 4, 5, 6 November

    First: Michigan USPS Whistleblower Details Directive From Superiors To Back-Date Late Mail-In-Ballots Nov 3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6xOuhsiJw

    Nevada USPS Worker Pledges Ballot Fraud To Remove President Trump From Office
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImU5wZWnm00

    Federal investigators in Michigan investigating USPS after Veritas Whistleblower
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rhrsvoRF8k
    Investigating until Biden wins, then closed

  20. Sky Aus reports
    US Postal Service worker alleges potential voter fraud
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_-zlprOqwA

    New York Post columnist Miranda Devine says the Democrats have obviously been up to something as there has been a concerted effort to “hide the counting of the ballots” and “change the law” under the cover of COVID-19
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIpD4yjPBAg

    US election may drag on for weeks and could end up in the Supreme Court amid “circumstantial evidence of potential chicanery” in the counting of ballots
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JclCeTS8FSw

    Hmm, are we going to see >100% voter turnout again in Dem states?

    Don Junior is ‘wrong to claim ballots are still being cast’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CazMyhoLRaY

    OH dear, Kim Hoggard rubbished by above and Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblowers

  21. To put this in perspecetive: UK Postal votes must be received before election day

    Gowdy slams ‘irresponsible’ states still accepting and counting ballots
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2FIGEzTBAU

    Did Supreme Court of Pennsylvania have the right to make election changes?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7YiGlu-4bE

    Nigel Farage gives an important update on the US election
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiIQkDzqnQ

    Democrat swing-states used COVID-19 to change election protocols in ‘murky ways’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQle-0LpHUo

  22. More fraud uncovered: photocopied edited un-watermarked ballots being accepted in ‘key states’ – BBC World Service ~05:00 GMT

    Hmm, are we going to see >100% voter turnout again in Dem states?

    Hmm, yes as predicted >100% – USA a Banana Republic

    Voter fraud – dead voting – 125% turnout (Nevada)
    “What is going on in America in the elections is nothing new, it’s been going on for donkeys years, but this time social media and mobile phone cameras have documented their criminality” As always like, share
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87duujCcUSw

    Democrat’s up to their old tricks – born 1902, vote accepted
    By now its clear to see that Democrats have played every dirty trick in the book to gain the keys to the Whitehouse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41R20Hvwwvg

    Steve Bannon silenced on social media
    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXfNNo3MF48

    Seb Gorka next?

    Steve Bannon was banned from YouTube and Twitter on Thursday after this
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/d7tVFB3hm1UT/

  23. Australia exposing the USA vote fraud – Sunday

    Something ‘stinks to high heaven’ in the US presidential election
    Jason Daniel, born 1850 voted for Biden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-tKILFlFgA

    Chairman of the American Conservative Union Matt Schlapp has claimed to have found hundreds of examples of “voter irregularity” during Nevada’s electoral process
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPoJwRpb_Kc

    Software That Switched Trump Votes To Biden Is Used Throughout MI & “Needs To Be Examined”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSxOJO0r6S8

    ‘This is premature … we have not finished counting votes’: South Dakota governor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7BYXVbl5Jc

  24. Hillary Clinton, Dems & MSM still today has ‘not really conceded the 2016 election’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfb0IA0Ca0c

    AOC reveals ‘authoritarian fascist instincts’ after calls for a list of Trump ‘sycophants’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T76t9oGbZM

    Coronavirus ‘fear campaign’ will now just fade away
    “The United States is now going to see the “coronavirus magically disappear” now that Joe Biden and the Democrats have won the White House”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7Z3y5zDEI

    – Dems couldn’t take over the poll stations and block GOP observers, that is why they couldn’t flip Texas

  25. Canada

    Must Watch – China, Iran celebrate
    America’s enemies are celebrating Trump’s “loss” | Ezra Levant breaks down post-election events
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy0ctI9NuN0

    “One more act in the perpetual coup” against Trump | Ben Weingarten with Ezra
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5qx42CXuI

    Ballot malarkey: Vote counters wearing BIDEN merchandise
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGnzctzFRj8
    We now know why Biden stated “I don’t need voters to win”

    Comedy Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdPyOxSgt3A

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