Well, yes…..

“The Guardian who feel they cannot defend her. I don’t know what the logic is any more, yet we have to have articles about some bloke who’s taken HRT and learnt to cry, and an obituary for Peter Sutcliffe.”

Suzanne Moore.

Matt Yglesias showed a certain amount of self awareness recently. The younger, he means under 40 or so, peeps who write the newspapers these days – and perhaps even more so all the digital support types these days, it used to be that the printers were off in another building, now they’re not, they’re on the editorial floor – come from a particular caste, background and education. All graduates, near all, even in the UK these days, with a postgraduate in journalism. All living in the big city. A monoculture with the normal problems over feedback amplification of one of those. And with very little direct knowledge of the world outside that monoculture.

If it ain’t cultural studies at college, or diversity training at work – to be extreme about it – they don’t know. They’re actually shocked at even the existence of ideas outside their little puddle, entirely unaware that there are oceans of differences out there.

Not dissimilar of course to varied of the Labour Party who think that everyone really is agreed on that structural racism etc. Which is why they lost the red wall.

That’s what’s happening. In a manner that didn’t used to be true – journalists used to come from anywhere, a modicum of technical training but not years at university – it has turned into a caste, a particular thought bubble.

I had an argument, perhaps discussion, with a comment page editor not so long ago. Offered a piece on the idea that the gender pay gap was caused by kiddies and care, not gender discrimination. She didn’t want it – well, that’s the fate of most offerings to editors of course. But the why was interesting. She was adamant that the opinion simply was not true. Provenly so, untrue. Diversity being a modern watchword but not of opinion.

19 thoughts on “Well, yes…..”

  1. “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”

    ― Ronald Reagan

  2. “journalists used to come from anywhere, a modicum of technical training but not years at university – it has turned into a caste, a particular thought bubble.”

    When technology makes a field redundant, or takes the money out of it, the lunatics take over the asylum. Smart working/middle class men stop doing it. They need to earn good money to attract women and see that it isn’t keeping up, so do something else. You’re left with people who can afford to do it: Trust Fund kids who aren’t too bright, and middle-class women.

    In the absence of financial rewards, it instead becomes about other rewards. Writers who use media as a platform for a crusade. Then, everyone wonders why the readership is leaving.

  3. Bloke in North Dorset

    Not dissimilar of course to varied of the Labour Party who think that everyone really is agreed on that structural racism etc. Which is why they lost the red wall.

    I read some similar analysis a year or so back, might have been Matt Goodwin. The argument was that Labour used to have its industrial unions and working mens’ clubs us useful testing grounds. Union shop stewards and local party officers using the clubs would provide the feedback of how policies played with the working class. Once that was severed the party leadership drifted-off and started to attract the middle class and type of voter described above, because that was the only voice they were hearing.

    The conclusion was that Labour is unlikely to get the red wall back becuase they’ve gone too far and don’t know how to build those test and feedback mechanisms.

    That’s partly why Boris’s plan to move part of the Conservative Party in to these areas is such a smart idea.

  4. BoM4 – it’s not exclusively a question of technology or money, it could also be because the publisher or owner has become lazy and doesn’t care that much any more.

    I’ve noticed that the Guido Fawkes site has lost a lot of its va-va-voom, accepts the official covid narrative unquestioningly and now offers weekly (weakly) Guido Talks conversations which might generously be described as missable.

  5. The Moore woman is so ugly that I did at first think from her photo that she might be a Trannie. No, it turns out that she’s a ‘single mother’. Coming up to Christmas, perhaps it’s another case of parthogenesis. Or maybe the father is a test tube or a blind man.

    She’s as stupid as Diane Abbott, and so perhaps the pair of them ought to form an interracial couple.

  6. It’s a shame that Suzanne Moore has left the Guardian. Whether or not she was happy or fitted in there, the fact remains that it was the seed-bed for her writing an article which is one of the all-time greats, and a perennial contender for the “Peak Guardian” prize.

    I mean, of course, the one in which she lamented that “I live in London but I leave it often enough to know that parts of the country are pretty white, enough to scare my “white” children because they are just not used to such a monoculture and find it disturbing, unreal and, to be frank, lacking.”

    That’s just sheer genius.

  7. The monoculture is going to make life “interesting” in the US for 4 years.

    Trump was elected 4 years ago as a rejection of the socialist establishment in DC. The Dems voted him out on the Trump hate platform. Biden is lorem ipsum. Biden’s cabinet picks are a troupe of socialist establishment monkeys. The majority of Americans don’t want them. It is completely tone deaf. Lefttard hubris. So John Kerry will be traveling to Paris to pontificate about the existential threat of Climate Change™ while the nation thinks – out loud – WTF?

    I don’t know where this disconnect will lead to. I hope it leads to Republicans getting a backbone and calling out stupid as stupid. Probably wishful thinking.

  8. Dennis, Hot Rod Accountant of Central Ohio

    I don’t know where this disconnect will lead to. I hope it leads to Republicans getting a backbone and calling out stupid as stupid.

    Just because Trump has lost does not mean he exits stage left. Far from it. The man’s flaws are as gigantic as his strengths, and now he’s be unconstrained by decorum (if that ever did constrain him)… He’s a vindictive man, and is going to have blood in his eye, vengeance in his heart and a few billion in his pocket. Those Republicans who do not tow his line will face his wrath. And if anyone thinks Donald Trump won’t happily take down someone like Mitt Romney or Ben Sasse just for the fun of it, they’re mistaken.

    What will make the next 4 years even more interesting is the coming civil war among the Democrats. It is now becoming clear that Joe Biden’s administration is going to welcome Obama/DNC establishment retreads and freeze out progressives. You watch, neither Elizabeth Warren nor Bernie Sanders will be offered a cabinet position. Once the progressives realize they’ve been cucked yet again, it’ll be on…

    The next four years are going to make the last four years look like kindergarten.

  9. Trump needs to resign if (when) his challenges to the election fail, so that Pence can pardon him for all sins. Otherwise the establishment will crush him if he makes a move into, say, media (and probably will, anyways, even if he retires to the farm).

    He’s a vindictive man, and is going to have blood in his eye, vengeance in his heart and a few billion in his pocket.

    That’s fine if the interests of the country are also in his heart, which appears to be the case judging him by what he’s done.

  10. Dennis, He Who Refuses To Be A Whiny Bitch

    Trump needs to resign if (when) his challenges to the election fail, so that Pence can pardon him for all sins. Otherwise the establishment will crush him if he makes a move into, say, media (and probably will, anyways, even if he retires to the farm).

    Newpjfia –

    Uh huh. Being the Legal Eagle you obviously are, can you explain how you can preemptively pardon someone for crimes unknown, unspecified and uncharged?

    Anyway, I thought you said the election had been stolen and it would be proved as such. Wouldn’t that make the above unnecessary?

  11. “Trump needs to resign if (when) his challenges to the election fail, so that Pence can pardon him for all sins. Otherwise the establishment will crush him if he makes a move into, say, media (and probably will, anyways, even if he retires to the farm).”

    Nope. Stupid idea. It basically admits that your opponent has/had a case. Make them come after him, and prove a case (of what I have no idea) in a court of law, which is considerably harder than in congress. What with needing evidence and all. All of which shenanigans will keep the Trump brand in the media night and day. And would make a great jump off point for the 2024 election. The public love a good story of the hero being persecuted and coming good at the end of the film, give them what they want. Not a pathetic ‘Get out of jail free’ card farewell.

  12. @Dennis

    NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

    Comes pretty close, no?

    Interesting question whether a president could pardon himself – could try obviously but would it be regarded as effective in court? Still unresolved as far as I’m aware.

    Anyway Trump’s next set of legal problems are going to come from NY rather than federally so even Pence giving him a pardon (which only works for federal crimes) wouldn’t help much on that front. Besides which the optics of such a staged resignation/pardon would look awful so would be an odd move if Trump is serious about he or one of his clan having another pop in four years’ time.

  13. MyBurningEars- I def don’t think he should but i also don’t think this power shouldn’t exist so it occurs it would be very trolly to pardon Joe for his part in electoral fraud, and make it very specific- like certain dates and districts- a complete pardon.

  14. Dennis, Your Guide To The USA

    Comes pretty close, no?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    I remember those days very clearly, and it was very much an open question as to whether Ford had the authority to issue that pardon. There was a substantial body of opinion that he did not. However, neither party was interested in pursuing the matter… The country was exhausted by the Watergate scandal and both parties came to the conclusion that now that Nixon was out of office, what had to be done had been done.

    Any attempt to pardon Trump would end up in front of the Supreme Court, and the outcome would be anybody’s guess.

  15. “Opinion”
    Grant Shapps dismissed the 10 million people study that showed Zero Asymptomatic C-19 Spread published in Nature as ‘opinion’ on JHB yesterday

    the Labour Party who think that everyone…

    … who is non-white, LBGT, RC must vote for Labour or as Biden said “They’re not Black….”

    btw cousin in NI hates Gerry Adams’ friend Biden and is worried

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