I’m just waiting for Wallonia to blank the Brexit deal. I doubt this saga is over yet.
As for the O’Bummers, I could hope that the newly-erupting Kilauea would blanket their pad with vog.
Jussi
Wallonia wouldn’t dare – there would be consequences. Serious consequences. I haven’t followed Brexit news much lately, how are anti-Brexit “journalists”, columnists etc explaining how the deal was done in less than a year when it was supposed to take at least seven if not ten long years? Or is there a silence?
philip
Roads are quiet too.
Jim
” I haven’t followed Brexit news much lately, how are anti-Brexit “journalists”, columnists etc explaining how the deal was done in less than a year when it was supposed to take at least seven if not ten long years? Or is there a silence?”
I notice the BBC is being quite negative on the deal in its ‘analysis’, which cheers me no end!
MC
Merry Christmas all!
My presents to myself are ignoring the news today, and booze. A recipe for happiness…
Hallowed Be
Merry Christmas pendants, squirrelophiles, blokes and birds in divers places.
Arthur the Cat
@Jim: “I notice the BBC is being quite negative on the deal in its ‘analysis’, which cheers me no end!”
You should take a look at the Grauniad’s hissy fits. Even before any details were released they had an article bemoaning how bad the deal was.
Anyway, as Tiny Tim (not this one) said: “A Merry Christmas to us all; God bless us, every one!”
View from the Solent
MC
Ignoring booze?
Roué le Jour
Had a very good xmas lunch in the Queen Vic (of course Pattaya has a Queen Vic) sorted, diamond geezer etc.
A merry xmas to all.
rhoda klapp
The BBC and Guardian’s reaction is the Brexit equivalent of
‘What is best in life? To crush your enemies to see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of their women?’
Gamecock
Gamecock will be paying attention to Beefeater. He will have a Singapore Sling with Heering Cherry.
Unfortunately, at his age, he only gets one.
BraveFart
Merry Christmas all.
The cvnts still don’t get it, viz a squawk from a Gauke
But the new relationship with the EU is one he has created by dismantling the status quo of EU membership, obstructing a softer, better Brexit in the form of Theresa May’s deal and now agreeing to this new deal. For good or ill, he cannot escape responsibility for the consequences.
A deal is better than no deal. But as we read the details of the Christmas Eve agreement, it will be clear for many that this is a worse deal than the one we had as an EU member.
• David Gauke was a Conservative cabinet member from 2016 to 2019
Ottokring
Merry Christmas from a sunny but freezing South Coast.
I had marzipan stollen for breakfast and very decadent it felt too…
An offically “White Christmas” despite the rarity of snow in England at this time of year (more usual Jan/Feb).
Any more of this Gerbil Warbling and we’ll be shovelling snow in October!
The Roast Beef beckons….
Bloke in North Dorset
Merry Christmas to one and all.
I’m having some great fun on the sailing forum I use winding up Remainers, especially those who claimed Boris wanted no deal and disaster capitalism. And then there’s thanking Gina Miller, again, for the restoring power to Parliament and making out point for us and posting a copy of a Tweet from Peston where he said there’s no way a deal could be done.
Gamecock, a trade deal is not being part of the EU just like a trade deal with the US would not make us the 51st state.
DocBud
Happy Christmas to all, sensible and nutters, and all the very best for a safe, healthy and successful 2021.
Here in COVID-19 free Mackay, we’ve had unrestricted dinner parties and visitations. I shall shortly be tasting my Glenlivet Code what I got from Santa.
Jussi
Fucking Classic FM, ruined my Christmas. The wanker just said Palestine and Bethlehem. IIRC, Bethlehem was in Judea (and Nazareth in Galilee).
Andy ex-Taiwan
Merry Christmas everyone. Despite everything, this year is much better than last. (working on the day at a school in Taipei is not something I ever plan to do again!)
DocBud
Boxing Day already in Queensland, everyone else in bed, Bluetooth headphones on and binging out on Dr Feelgood, Rory Gallagher YouTube videos and whisky.
Gamecock
“Gamecock, a trade deal is not being part of the EU just like a trade deal with the US would not make us the 51st state.”
A trade deal in conjunction with Brexit makes you the 28th state.
GTFO, then talk trade deals.
Theophrastus
A very MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all!
Remainiacs’ responses to “the deal” – and I’ll want to see the detail before I celebrate – are remarkable for their negativity….the EU has the whip-hand, only No Deal is Brexit, the UK will be pleading for re-entry within 5/10/20 years, etc etc.
PJF
Merry Christmas to all.
Gamecock
Looked up Mackay QLD on Google Earth (at risk of Google taking over my computer).
Looks like a great area, Mr DocBud.
BlokeInTejas
Merry Crimble to all!!
DocBud
Merry Christmas to you and those you hold dear, Gamecock. Mackay does get a tad humid in summer and is a bit of a cultural backwater (but shortish flights to state capitals). However, it has a lot of scenic spots on its doorstep and we are particularly blessed as our house overlooks the Coral Sea and the southern Whitsunday Islands of Keswick and St. Bees. We’ve been here 18 years and have no plans to move in the immediate future.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and sundry on this blog. “Peace on earth to men of Goodwill”
Gamecock
‘Both sides now claim the 2,000-page agreement protects their cherished goals. Britain said it gives the U.K. control over its money, borders, laws and fishing grounds. The EU says it protects the EU’s single market and contains safeguards to ensure that Britain does not unfairly undercut the bloc’s standards.’
This is an embarrassment. TWO THOUSAND PAGES means you are still in the EU.
dearieme
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and sundry on this blog. Potted shrimps to men of Goodwill. Tripes à la mode de Caen to the rest of you.
You think a trade deal between the UK and US would be two sides of paper and a handshake? Those days are long passed.
NZ and Australia have a trade deal that most certainly does not make us one country. Annex G, “special rules of origin”, alone is 450 pages.
Andrew C
Merry Christmas to all.
I sense most on here are “do-ers” rather than the whiners of the left.
Which is why 2021 will be a good year. Because we will make it one, rather than expecting someone else to make it good for us and whining when it doesn’t happen.
Gamecock
2,000 pages is not a trade agreement. It is an agreement to interference with trade.
Chernyy_Drakon
Merry Christmas everyone!
BniC
Merry Christmas to all and thanks for being one of the few oasis of sanity in this mad year
Nautical Nick
Just waiting for the EU to want a favour from the UK. (like when the implode, say…) Won’t that be a delicious moment…?
djc
Christmas and New year cheer to you all. A bright clear day as I went for a long walk around the village, I have filed my online tax return, and after the second glass of wine I have a present of Somerset Cider Brandy to consider.
Tractor Gent
Way to go, DocBud. Some good old Rockpalast stuff on YT. I’m into Blues, so Gary Moore, Kingfish, Popa Chubby, Gary Clark Jr, Walter Trout, Laura Cox etc. My Friday night selection before I go on Teams for a virtual pub session with friends. Sadly it looks like our real Friday venue may not survive the continual lockdowns we’re suffering when the government gets frit at rising hospital admissions.
As for QLD, wish we were there now. The xmas breakfast pics from our friends in Agnes Water made us realise it’s gonna be a while before we’re back there.
johnd2008
Docbud,
I am now over the ditch in the South Island of NZ. I used to live in the original St Bees and had no idea that there was another one. What a small and interconnected world it is.
PJF
Gamecock, the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (Trump’s NAFTA replacement) is 2082 pages.
So Much For Subtlety
I am suspicious of the new deal. For one I don’t think Boris is much of a conservative. I think he is Wet through and through. I am not sure why he is a Brexit supporter but it is the only properly Tory thing he supports.
For another I find it hard to believe that the EU and our Quisling bureaucracy could have negotiated such a long deal without hiding some sort of poison pill in there somehow. In the same way that Theresa May’s deal was designed to trap us in the EU forever. So what is the new rule about Northern Ireland?
But after half a decade of being told the British economy would collapse if we just thought about Brexit, I look forward to our new post-apocalypse Britain with roaming gangs of starving hooligans. After all, we need to bear in mind that Mad Max was set in the 2020s.
And, you know, they couldn’t have been … lying to us could they?
Boganboy
DocBud: Glad you’re having a good time in Mackay. I fear I did nothing on Christmas day except go for a walk.
I gave myself my Christmas present a day early by doing absolutely nothing. So I had to go out and buy some bread and milk.
Chester Draws
A long deal, not that 2000 pages is long, outside the EU is renegotiable. Being in is not.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from sunny Cyprus.
I must say, I’m loving the squawking from the Remoaners on the forums here. Many have changed from, “trade deals take ten years, you can’t have FTA without free movement (why?), etc.” to, “It won’t be as good out as it was in”.
dearieme
No parliament can bind its successors. So if we’ve got out from under the bloody EU Court we can then alter things to our hearts’ contents.
Meantime, can we hang some of the quislings, please?
(Note to Norwegians – sorry, chaps, but the word really did enter the English language.)
Chris Miller
I must say, I’m loving the squawking from the Remoaners on the forums here. Many have changed from, “trade deals take ten years, you can’t have FTA without free movement (why?), etc.” to, “It won’t be as good out as it was in”.
Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. Of course, whatever (or no) trade deal we reached with the EU would necessarily be less frictionless than was available as a member. I doubt that there was a single Leave voter that failed to grock that. But trade with the EU is not the only, or even the most important, concern.
Gamecock
‘Gamecock, the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (Trump’s NAFTA replacement) is 2082 pages.’
Whataboutery.
Gamecock
Gamecock wishes he could have taken a walk on Christmas. Temp never got out of the 20s.
Unusually cold this early in winter for South Carolina.
PJF
Whataboutery.
Gamecock earlier:
– This is an embarrassment. TWO THOUSAND PAGES means you are still in the EU.
– 2,000 pages is not a trade agreement. It is an agreement to interference with trade.
Assessment of deals via page quantity is not necessarily meaningful.
Mr Ecks
Belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all–tho’ I would tend to doubt the latter.
Also on a lighter note for all you squirrel fans out there I was looking at some Feldenkrais Method vids and I came across this lady and her Squirrel exercises.
“Assessment of deals via page quantity is not necessarily meaningful.”
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
PJF
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
Yes, I’m being seasonally conciliatory. The “don’t be a fucking tit” used earlier was more to the point.
A third of a page could have sold us out; thousands of pages of bullshit could have camouflaged our win. The weight of the paper is irrelevant.
Gamecock
After 5 years of dodges and deceits, you really think you could have a win?
PJF
Could? Yes, could be; it’s possible. I don’t know, of course. Like you and our host I would have preferred a hard out just to be sure.
I take some small comfort in that it’s the remainers who are bitching and moaning (and voting against) and the leavers who seem pleasantly surprised (and voting for).
Merry Christmas.
Heartwarming news from the Pacific:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/barack-obama-relaxes-michelle-obama-work-muscles-christmas-kayak-trip-hawaii/
Compliments of the season to all.
I’m just waiting for Wallonia to blank the Brexit deal. I doubt this saga is over yet.
As for the O’Bummers, I could hope that the newly-erupting Kilauea would blanket their pad with vog.
Wallonia wouldn’t dare – there would be consequences. Serious consequences. I haven’t followed Brexit news much lately, how are anti-Brexit “journalists”, columnists etc explaining how the deal was done in less than a year when it was supposed to take at least seven if not ten long years? Or is there a silence?
Roads are quiet too.
” I haven’t followed Brexit news much lately, how are anti-Brexit “journalists”, columnists etc explaining how the deal was done in less than a year when it was supposed to take at least seven if not ten long years? Or is there a silence?”
I notice the BBC is being quite negative on the deal in its ‘analysis’, which cheers me no end!
Merry Christmas all!
My presents to myself are ignoring the news today, and booze. A recipe for happiness…
Merry Christmas pendants, squirrelophiles, blokes and birds in divers places.
@Jim: “I notice the BBC is being quite negative on the deal in its ‘analysis’, which cheers me no end!”
You should take a look at the Grauniad’s hissy fits. Even before any details were released they had an article bemoaning how bad the deal was.
Anyway, as Tiny Tim (not this one) said: “A Merry Christmas to us all; God bless us, every one!”
MC
Ignoring booze?
Had a very good xmas lunch in the Queen Vic (of course Pattaya has a Queen Vic) sorted, diamond geezer etc.
A merry xmas to all.
The BBC and Guardian’s reaction is the Brexit equivalent of
‘What is best in life? To crush your enemies to see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of their women?’
Gamecock will be paying attention to Beefeater. He will have a Singapore Sling with Heering Cherry.
Unfortunately, at his age, he only gets one.
Merry Christmas all.
The cvnts still don’t get it, viz a squawk from a Gauke
But the new relationship with the EU is one he has created by dismantling the status quo of EU membership, obstructing a softer, better Brexit in the form of Theresa May’s deal and now agreeing to this new deal. For good or ill, he cannot escape responsibility for the consequences.
A deal is better than no deal. But as we read the details of the Christmas Eve agreement, it will be clear for many that this is a worse deal than the one we had as an EU member.
• David Gauke was a Conservative cabinet member from 2016 to 2019
Merry Christmas from a sunny but freezing South Coast.
I had marzipan stollen for breakfast and very decadent it felt too…
“A deal is better than no deal.”
Brexit with a deal is not Brexit.
Merry Christmas to our non-Christian friends!
An offically “White Christmas” despite the rarity of snow in England at this time of year (more usual Jan/Feb).
Any more of this Gerbil Warbling and we’ll be shovelling snow in October!
The Roast Beef beckons….
Merry Christmas to one and all.
I’m having some great fun on the sailing forum I use winding up Remainers, especially those who claimed Boris wanted no deal and disaster capitalism. And then there’s thanking Gina Miller, again, for the restoring power to Parliament and making out point for us and posting a copy of a Tweet from Peston where he said there’s no way a deal could be done.
Gamecock, a trade deal is not being part of the EU just like a trade deal with the US would not make us the 51st state.
Happy Christmas to all, sensible and nutters, and all the very best for a safe, healthy and successful 2021.
Here in COVID-19 free Mackay, we’ve had unrestricted dinner parties and visitations. I shall shortly be tasting my Glenlivet Code what I got from Santa.
Fucking Classic FM, ruined my Christmas. The wanker just said Palestine and Bethlehem. IIRC, Bethlehem was in Judea (and Nazareth in Galilee).
Merry Christmas everyone. Despite everything, this year is much better than last. (working on the day at a school in Taipei is not something I ever plan to do again!)
Boxing Day already in Queensland, everyone else in bed, Bluetooth headphones on and binging out on Dr Feelgood, Rory Gallagher YouTube videos and whisky.
“Gamecock, a trade deal is not being part of the EU just like a trade deal with the US would not make us the 51st state.”
A trade deal in conjunction with Brexit makes you the 28th state.
GTFO, then talk trade deals.
A very MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all!
Remainiacs’ responses to “the deal” – and I’ll want to see the detail before I celebrate – are remarkable for their negativity….the EU has the whip-hand, only No Deal is Brexit, the UK will be pleading for re-entry within 5/10/20 years, etc etc.
Merry Christmas to all.
Looked up Mackay QLD on Google Earth (at risk of Google taking over my computer).
Looks like a great area, Mr DocBud.
Merry Crimble to all!!
Merry Christmas to you and those you hold dear, Gamecock. Mackay does get a tad humid in summer and is a bit of a cultural backwater (but shortish flights to state capitals). However, it has a lot of scenic spots on its doorstep and we are particularly blessed as our house overlooks the Coral Sea and the southern Whitsunday Islands of Keswick and St. Bees. We’ve been here 18 years and have no plans to move in the immediate future.
Bad Penny Rockpalast 1982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlEfyMoR49M
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and sundry on this blog. “Peace on earth to men of Goodwill”
‘Both sides now claim the 2,000-page agreement protects their cherished goals. Britain said it gives the U.K. control over its money, borders, laws and fishing grounds. The EU says it protects the EU’s single market and contains safeguards to ensure that Britain does not unfairly undercut the bloc’s standards.’
This is an embarrassment. TWO THOUSAND PAGES means you are still in the EU.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and sundry on this blog. Potted shrimps to men of Goodwill. Tripes à la mode de Caen to the rest of you.
Merry Christmas to all.
@Jussi Palestine’s ok in this context: https://www.oatridge.co.uk/poems/j/john-betjeman-christmas.php @Gamecock don’t be such a fucking tit; take the win. Merrcy Christmas all, and to all a good night.
You think a trade deal between the UK and US would be two sides of paper and a handshake? Those days are long passed.
NZ and Australia have a trade deal that most certainly does not make us one country. Annex G, “special rules of origin”, alone is 450 pages.
Merry Christmas to all.
I sense most on here are “do-ers” rather than the whiners of the left.
Which is why 2021 will be a good year. Because we will make it one, rather than expecting someone else to make it good for us and whining when it doesn’t happen.
2,000 pages is not a trade agreement. It is an agreement to interference with trade.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas to all and thanks for being one of the few oasis of sanity in this mad year
Just waiting for the EU to want a favour from the UK. (like when the implode, say…) Won’t that be a delicious moment…?
Christmas and New year cheer to you all. A bright clear day as I went for a long walk around the village, I have filed my online tax return, and after the second glass of wine I have a present of Somerset Cider Brandy to consider.
Way to go, DocBud. Some good old Rockpalast stuff on YT. I’m into Blues, so Gary Moore, Kingfish, Popa Chubby, Gary Clark Jr, Walter Trout, Laura Cox etc. My Friday night selection before I go on Teams for a virtual pub session with friends. Sadly it looks like our real Friday venue may not survive the continual lockdowns we’re suffering when the government gets frit at rising hospital admissions.
As for QLD, wish we were there now. The xmas breakfast pics from our friends in Agnes Water made us realise it’s gonna be a while before we’re back there.
Docbud,
I am now over the ditch in the South Island of NZ. I used to live in the original St Bees and had no idea that there was another one. What a small and interconnected world it is.
Gamecock, the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (Trump’s NAFTA replacement) is 2082 pages.
I am suspicious of the new deal. For one I don’t think Boris is much of a conservative. I think he is Wet through and through. I am not sure why he is a Brexit supporter but it is the only properly Tory thing he supports.
For another I find it hard to believe that the EU and our Quisling bureaucracy could have negotiated such a long deal without hiding some sort of poison pill in there somehow. In the same way that Theresa May’s deal was designed to trap us in the EU forever. So what is the new rule about Northern Ireland?
But after half a decade of being told the British economy would collapse if we just thought about Brexit, I look forward to our new post-apocalypse Britain with roaming gangs of starving hooligans. After all, we need to bear in mind that Mad Max was set in the 2020s.
And, you know, they couldn’t have been … lying to us could they?
DocBud: Glad you’re having a good time in Mackay. I fear I did nothing on Christmas day except go for a walk.
I gave myself my Christmas present a day early by doing absolutely nothing. So I had to go out and buy some bread and milk.
A long deal, not that 2000 pages is long, outside the EU is renegotiable. Being in is not.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Sorry I’m late…
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from sunny Cyprus.
I must say, I’m loving the squawking from the Remoaners on the forums here. Many have changed from, “trade deals take ten years, you can’t have FTA without free movement (why?), etc.” to, “It won’t be as good out as it was in”.
No parliament can bind its successors. So if we’ve got out from under the bloody EU Court we can then alter things to our hearts’ contents.
Meantime, can we hang some of the quislings, please?
(Note to Norwegians – sorry, chaps, but the word really did enter the English language.)
I must say, I’m loving the squawking from the Remoaners on the forums here. Many have changed from, “trade deals take ten years, you can’t have FTA without free movement (why?), etc.” to, “It won’t be as good out as it was in”.
Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. Of course, whatever (or no) trade deal we reached with the EU would necessarily be less frictionless than was available as a member. I doubt that there was a single Leave voter that failed to grock that. But trade with the EU is not the only, or even the most important, concern.
‘Gamecock, the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (Trump’s NAFTA replacement) is 2082 pages.’
Whataboutery.
Gamecock wishes he could have taken a walk on Christmas. Temp never got out of the 20s.
Unusually cold this early in winter for South Carolina.
Whataboutery.
Gamecock earlier:
– This is an embarrassment. TWO THOUSAND PAGES means you are still in the EU.
– 2,000 pages is not a trade agreement. It is an agreement to interference with trade.
Assessment of deals via page quantity is not necessarily meaningful.
Belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all–tho’ I would tend to doubt the latter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZp3zx0pUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_8OPqeXg9E&t=284s
and on a lighter note re the BBC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j9UbnR59-E
Also on a lighter note for all you squirrel fans out there I was looking at some Feldenkrais Method vids and I came across this lady and her Squirrel exercises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXTZz6wR8cQ
“Assessment of deals via page quantity is not necessarily meaningful.”
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
Yes, I’m being seasonally conciliatory. The “don’t be a fucking tit” used earlier was more to the point.
A third of a page could have sold us out; thousands of pages of bullshit could have camouflaged our win. The weight of the paper is irrelevant.
After 5 years of dodges and deceits, you really think you could have a win?
Could? Yes, could be; it’s possible. I don’t know, of course. Like you and our host I would have preferred a hard out just to be sure.
I take some small comfort in that it’s the remainers who are bitching and moaning (and voting against) and the leavers who seem pleasantly surprised (and voting for).
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-small-print-of-boris-s-brexit-deal-makes-for-reassuring-reading