Misquoting is one of those journalistic sins Ms. Malik

Nesrine:

As far back as August of last year, the World Health Organization warned that a vaccine alone would not end the pandemic, that “throughout history” the only way viruses have been vanquished is via “permanent adjustments” to economics and societies.

Hmm, the actual quote being lifted:

Throughout history, outbreaks and pandemics have changed economies and societies, he said.

That’s not quite the same thing, is it? The Black Death led to money wages and free labour. That’s certainly a change, but it’s not quite true that the Black Death was vanquished by money wages now, is it?

Tsk.

18 thoughts on “Misquoting is one of those journalistic sins Ms. Malik”

  1. Money wages and free labour in England, perhaps. In parts of Europe it led to a doubling down of serfdom. This was the case in Prussia where the Junker class became truly established, with large landowners taking over nearby abandoned properties and their Polish serfs.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    So the only way to defeat HIV is for all the Gayers to give up being Gay? All that money spent on a vaccine or better drugs is wasted?

    Do tell Ms Malik.

  3. Faulty premise:

    We are battling a global pandemic with temporary fixes, avoiding the question of why we were so vulnerable

    But we weren’t vulnerable to anything except fear. Dr. Ferguson’s dodgy data of doom turned out to be complete bullshit – this isn’t Spanish Flu 2, it’s a mildly serious respiratory disease with something like an 99.9% survival rate, and the vast, overwhelming, yuge majority of its victims are very old and sick people who were going to die soon anyway.

    There’s no actual evidence that any of the crazy and authoritarian measures governments have taken are “working” to do anything except expedite the deaths of old people in care homes, endanger people with non-Covid conditions whose treatment is being delayed, and hasten national bankruptcy.

    But why are we so vulnerable to fear? Partly it’s because of people in Ms Malik’s profession selling fear.

  4. Increasingly I can see no way that this crap isn’t a plan. Worldwide it obviously is but even a bunch of dumb UK political turds trying to save themselves doesn’t cut it. The way it progresses in the same stages everywhere –Blojob now moving to the cop thuggery that Aussie scum pioneered last year etc.
    Bungling can no longer cover it as an explanation .

  5. What convinced me this was more sinister than a respiratory virus was the war on two drugs with long and safe records over decades, both on WHO 100 essential drugs list from when it was a benign organisation: hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin,; the reliance on epidemiologists who may reveal correlation but cannot prove causation, which is the job of actual scientists performing falsifiable experiments to test hypotheses; the demonisation of dissident scientists such as Dr Michael Yeadon, Prof Sucharit Bakhdi, Dr Dolores Cahill and Dr Judy Mikovitz; and the silencing of practising frontline doctors such as the group led by Dr Simone Gold and Dr Lev Zelenko and their successes. Health bodies have failed to promote vitD3, zinc supplements or weightloss to the most vulnerable groups, the elderly, the diabetic, the obese and the dark skinned living at high latitude.
    Public Health isn’t what it used to be:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1340352565481975812
    For thread on principles of public health

  6. if we carry on with the lockdowns as they are now, it won’t be long before we are again living in historic times. One of the benefits of a prosperous economy is that we can afford luxuries like healthcare!
    I guess that having to deal with real plagues, and real colonialism and other barbaric historic things will give the smowflakes a whole new impetus!

  7. I would ask ‘what permanent changes were made on response to the flu pandemic of 1918 and all pandemics since?’

  8. @Ljh: I’ve been taking VitD and Zn since March. Ain’t I a good boy?

    There’s a medical treatment I’m undergoing that may exclude my taking the jab so I just hope my immune system is tickety-boo.

  9. I’m bemused that people who have had Covid are also being vaccinated as apparently it’s not the same as vaccination. It’s your immune system response that matters not the trigger surely, if you can’t be immune after have got them what is a vaccine going to do?
    Apparently from a medical friend people who have had Covid tend to have a more severe reaction to the first injection.

  10. https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/

    His argument / graph (was lockdown effective?) partially rests on there three being 2 to 3 weeks (and nearer 2 weeks for London), from infection to death. 23 days was being cited regularly back in the late spring from averaging various studies (average of 5 days to symptoms, and 18 days from symptoms to death). I saw studies at the time showing both above and below.

    If 23 days, then London clearly peaked before enforced lockdown. Probably due to voluntary actions but maybe there was also an element (not considered there) of climatic (not just temperature?). C Europe never really got it early, was that also climatic? That would help to explain why Yeadon and others are perfectly accurate in principle (wrt what they say about 1st wave and then seasonal), but that the 1st wave simply hadn’t fully gone through in the spring as it might have done if it had been earlier?

    We need to see the ONS data over the next couple of weeks, to see whether total deaths backs up what’s currently being reported wrt Covid deaths (or whether there is some smaller or greater element of FPs).

    Also, if this current variation really is more transmissible, ie it therefore has a higher R0, then a higher autumn / winter seasonal wave than expected would be perfectly normal (ie, in recalculating HIT upwards)?

    It also looks to me as if he has taken total Covid deaths, rather than hospital deaths, as his proxy? The averages for hospital deaths were earlier than for total deaths (including care homes). Community infection is what we are measuring (if considering lockdown), for which hospital deaths is the better proxy; as that’s where people go when they get ill from Covid. Plus, hospital > hospital infection (which was very real at the time, ie go into hospital, catch Covid, then die) moves that average community infection > hospital death delay number (23 days) up a bit more as well.

    All of this varies from his analysis. I did my own analysis / graphs at the time, and working backwards from the hospital proxy (and even ignoring hospital > hospital transmission) infections in London were unquestionably falling quite quickly by 23rd March (peaked likely 7 to 10 days prior).

    But, in any case, there are many sub areas (within regions) that had clearly peaked before and after the regional average (if one analyses the sub-regional hospital data). All of that clearly points towards things happening to some extent entirely independently of enforced lockdown.

  11. “The averages for hospital deaths were earlier than for total deaths (including care homes).”

    Ie. the peaks for hospital deaths were earlier than for total deaths (including care homes).

  12. Yes, Tim Spector’s Zoe data is interesting on this too (if you re-calibrate for likely timings etc, ie from infection).

    https://covid.joinzoe.com/your-contribution

    If you plug in the various NPI dates through all of this, it seems to be doing its own thing to some extent, rather than deferring to any great extent to Boris’s various brain farts.

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    I keep pointing out on other forums tha Zoe and. HS triage are the closest metrics we have to leading indicators yet tje MSM and therefore politicians are fixated on cases, hospitalisations and deaths.

    By the time they’re cases, hospitalisations and deaths are baked in. If they are going to act the government needs to monitor Zoe and NHS triage more closely and act on those.

  14. Maybe they do! Ie, spot the fact that something has changed (eg London has peaked), then announce a new measure, and then claim credit as the subsequent metric appears to validate. 🙂 (The trouble is that most people then believe them….) Or maybe they are simply incompetent.

  15. I thought that the article was incoherent. The only thing I took away from it (apart from the gratuitous Orange man bad aside about last weeks events in Washington) is that we should shovel even more billions into the bottomless maw of the NHS, with no thought that part of the problem is the NHS in it’s current form. Then again I think the alcohol i’ve been drinking may make comprehension difficult.

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