Part of this might even be true

On Wednesday, a coup attempt was led by the president of the United States. A rightwing mob attempted the coup in the form of a violent riot that stormed the Capitol building. They disrupted the proceedings that would have completed the recognition of the election of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Those proceedings had been disrupted earlier by elected officials bringing forth bad-faith claims that the election was not legitimate and should instead produce a continuation of Trump’s presidency. This too was a coup attempt, an attempt to violate the constitution and override the will of the voters in this election.

The bits inside were not, cannot, have been violations of the constitution. For they were following the rules of said constitution.

As to everything else well, I guess we know who isn’t running in 2024 then.

33 thoughts on “Part of this might even be true”

  1. Looking at the video on the Beeb website it just looked like a normal protest. Yes, they got into one of the chambers but that was it.

    The sensationalist reporting of 4 dead is the difference. Makes it sound like a siege but only 1 person was shot – the 3 others were non-violent deaths (medical conditions). I imagine the shot person (ex-military woman apparently) will turn out to have been murdered by an over-zealot security guard.

    This is not much different to all the triggered lefties kicking up a fuss after Trump’s win – something conveniently overlooked in all this talk of a coup. If the Left are going to not accept election results, then the Right are going to follow their lead.

    Is that good? Well, no it’s not. But who started it?

  2. MrKing: ’ I imagine the shot person (ex-military woman apparently) will turn out to have been murdered by an over-zealot security guard.’

    I don’t understand. Why didn’t they take a knee?

  3. Again –NOT CLEAR how they even managed to get inside.US political hacks in insecure premises with a large protest outside? The claims that it an Antifa put up job let in by cops are far from incredible. And to call such a pale shadow of what the scummy left have been up to across the USA for years now a COUP attempt is a bad joke.

    I wish Trump had the bottle for a real seizure of power. After this election fraud US democracy is dead. Every future vote will be fiddled. I would prefer US ruled by a strongman Trump than CCP owned POS like Senile Joe. If Trump spent a few years destroying the Marxist crew there might then be a chance for a return to democracy. Like Spain after Franco.

    Meantime fantasises about how the system will protect the USA are nonsense. If RINO scum wont stand against election fraud Biden and Kowmara will do as they like.

    Time for Americans to use their guns is at hand.

  4. Philip Scott Thomas

    On Wednesday, a coup attempt was led by the president of the United States.

    Bullshit. Trump was telling them not to riot. He told his follower to come to DC for a demonstration, not to occupy Capitol Hill.

    …should instead produce a continuation of Trump’s presidency.

    Again, bullshit. Ted Cruz was going to call for a ten-day investigation into the election. Ten days would have done nothing to delay the inauguration on 20 January.

  5. I guess we know who isn’t running in 2024 then

    The Republican party is finished. It won’t make a difference who they run. They’ve left their base and they’ll never get them back. The right is split. Yesterday was a massive victory for the left.

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    Hang on, I thought invading government offices, berating politicians in elevators for voting for Kavanaugh, burning government buildings, all that sort of thing was the sort of peaceful protest, um, mostly peaceful protest, we have all come to know and love?

    After all, it is only property, right? They must have insurance or something.

    We see America has two legal systems – one for the people the Left loves, one for the rest of us. As does the UK. Try and see how being charged with rape works out for you if you’re guilty of not being Muslim.

  7. SMFS:

    +1

    The media who have ignored the beatings, stabbings and shootings of Trump supporters by BLM/ Antifa terrorists over the last five years, and the rioting, looting and murdering by Democrat supporters last year are suddenly outraged, outraged I tell ‘ya, over a mostly peaceful protest by Patriots over the result of a rigged election? Sorry Rebecca, it just won’t wash….

    And as for evidence; there’s far more real evidence over this election being crooked than there ever was for the ‘Russian Collusion’ hoax pushed by the MSM. GFY sweetie.

  8. JuliaM- + 1000 kisses x

    PJF – Yesterday was a massive victory for the left.

    Narp. People shitting themselves and running generally isn’t a hallmark of victory.

    This is the first time since the so-polite-they-could-be-English Tea Party protests that normal Americans have demonstrated en masse. And despite having little organisation and zero air cover by the institutions (see: BLM riots), they joyfully chased the buggers out of Washington DC. Beautiful stuff and George Washington would approve.

    You also seem to still think there’s some sort of important difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. I disagree, it’s like trying to choose between Myra Hindley and Ian Brady.

    Brief recap:

    >Americans elect Donald J Trump (twice) despite the entire mass media, pollsters, political establishment and Big Tech oligarchs gaslighting them and calling them evil, crazy racists.

    >The supposed Right wing party spends the next four years fighting their own president on every single point except tax cuts for megacorps and more money for Israel.

    >Belarussian style election fuckery results in a senile rapist who didn’t even campaign getting more “votes” than Barack Obama at the height of his popularity.

    >The courts pretend the injured parties have no standing, or that their complaints aren’t justiciable, take your grievances to Congress please. Congress pretends it has no alternative but to accept fraudulent votes because the courts didn’t do anything.

    >People who openly cheered on the burnination of multiple formerly First World cities by BLM/Antifa go SurprisedPikachu.gif when normal Yanks decide to get a small slice – a petit thin wafer – of that action.

    GK Chesterton did nothing wrong, it’s time politicians feared their constituents.

  9. Steve Sailer has a piece on the medias BS:

    Shortly after 8 p.m. Wednesday, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the locked King Street entrance to the Capitol, chanting “Break down the door!” and “General strike!”

    These kind of mob actions in Madison went on for months in 2011. But they’ve disappeared down the memoryhole because the mob was Democratic. So, therefore, they were the Good Guys, not the Bad Guys. It’s hard to remember facts that contradict The Narrative.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/alternative-timeline-nyt-mostly-peaceful-protesters-call-for-electoral-accountability-inside-capitol/

  10. I must admit that last night when I went to bed while all this was kicking off, I half expected, (hoped?), to wake up this morning to the news that the corpses of half a dozen congressional ‘representatives’ were found hanging from balconies in the burnt out rubble of the Capitol building while rioting had spread to a dozen state capitols around the US.

    Oh well. Maybe next time.

    Seriously, judging by the reaction of the left this morning – “It’s all Trump’s fault!!!” – there is going to be a next time.

    They don’t seem to realise that Trump isn’t the cause of all this discontent, he’s the one holding it back. Now they’ve finally got rid of him, the gloves might well be off.

  11. You also seem to still think there’s some sort of important difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party.

    You inferred; I didn’t imply. Nevertheless, the Republican party was the vessel the right could use to gain some political power. Now it’s sunk itself and there is no replacement. The left is not split and is dominant. Expect serious consolidation.

    . . . they joyfully chased the buggers out of Washington DC.

    ? ? ?

    Who is in DC right now and who isn’t?

    If you think hairy horned guy and the body of Ashli Babbit are signs of winning then you don’t know what you’re up against.

  12. PJF – Nevertheless, the Republican party was the vessel the right could use to gain some political power.

    If only they’d thought to elect Tea Party senators or a president who isn’t part of the kleptocracy! 🙂

    Now it’s sunk itself and there is no replacement.

    No flowers.

    The left is not split and is dominant. Expect serious consolidation.

    Like when Mike Pence declared that rubber stamping the fraudulent election of a senile placeholder for globalist business interests and corrupt institutions that hate their own host nation is “freedom”? Oh no.

    If you think hairy horned guy and the body of Ashli Babbit are signs of winning then you don’t know what you’re up against.

    I suppose they could’ve written a sternly-worded letter to their congressional representatives. But I think you misunderestimate the power of morale – Actual-Americans, after a year of being trapped in their houses and told that weirdos burning down cities and vandalising statues is a long overdue “reckoning”, have just watched their team give the coulrocracy a very public kicking. No, it doesn’t magically fix anything, but courage is infectious.

    Feels good, man.

  13. This is very disturbing. All the press – even right-leaning are calling this minor protest a coup. The Telegraph has many articles on this, all with no comments allowed. The Spectator has several lead articles condemning Trump for causing this “outrage”.

    That hte four deaths were not caused by the protesters, security killed one and three were health related, is rarely mentioned, and then only well into an article.

    It seems the whole media has decided on the one story and it must not be challenged. I have never seen that done on this scale before. Even the unbalanced BLM protests & Brexit coverage was more balanced than this.

    Its actually very scary that the media think they can do this.

  14. It’s proof that Americans don’t do irony. Otherwise the mob would have burnt the place down and graffitied everything with wHITE LIVES MATTER.

    Separate point: how many anti-fa were there as false flaggers? I don’t suppose the FBI will ever tell us.

  15. The Spectator has several lead articles condemning Trump for causing this “outrage”.

    Consolidation. The swamp will drain Trump dry.

    Its actually very scary that the media think they can do this.

    They know they can do this.

  16. Actually the left is only United in believing “Orange Man Bad”.
    Once the new administration starts to do something it will piss off some section of its support, then things become less certain.

  17. Dennis, He Who Refuses To Be A Whiny Bitch

    A couple of things…

    1) After spending four years trying to convince the American people that presidential elections can be – and have been – stolen, Democrats and the main stream media are shocked to find that a substantial portion of the American people believe them.
    2) After spending a year ignoring, denying and/or excusing the political violence of Antifa and Black Lives Matter, Democrats and the main stream media are shocked to find that other militants now think that political violence will further their agenda.
    3) It’s interesting to note the very vocal denunciations of the violence in Washington by Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and George W. Bush as compared to their silence with regards to the violence in Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle (as well as other major cities) over the past year.
    4) It’s also interesting to note that neither Biden, Romney nor Bush offered any sort of meaningful denunciation of Antifa’s attempt to burn down the Federal Court Building in Portland last year. I can’t help but compare and contrast that to their respective performances yesterday.

    To those who voted for Joe Biden I say this: Yesterday, January 6, 2021 was the beginning of What You Wanted. If you are troubled as all about how What You Wanted has started out, well, sometimes it’s important to take care in the asking of What You Want.

  18. “The Republican party is finished. It won’t make a difference who they run. They’ve left their base and they’ll never get them back. The right is split. Yesterday was a massive victory for the left.”

    Politicians always piss people off to the point where in a few years the other side is voted back in, who then proceed to do the same. The left now has the ball and will try to run with it, but a lot of the Democratic politicans come from pretty conservative districts and the House is up for election every two years. A lot of the left’s agenda will be stymied by that simple fact. You can also expect that they too will annoy the population much as the first Bush begat Clinton, who begat Bush2, who begat Obama, who begat Trump, who has now begat Biden.

    The Republican base, by the way, has become people who work in industries that actually require blue collar workers, whether college educated management or the guys on the floor. The Democratic base has become the people who work in industries that don’t require blue collar workers and blacks. The Dems risk is that the black and Hispanic blue collar Democrats come to realize that that their economic interests don’t differ that much from those of white blue collar workers.

  19. Dennis, Your Guide To The USA

    To those who voted for Joe Biden I say this: Yesterday, January 6, 2021 was the beginning of What You Wanted. If you are troubled as all about how What You Wanted has started out, well, sometimes it’s important to take care in the asking of What You Want.

    Remember the movie Apocalypse Now? What elevated the story to Grand Tragedy? Simple: Everyone got what they wanted. Captain Willard announces it in the first few minutes of the film “Everybody gets everything they want. I wanted a mission. And for my sins, they gave me one.”

    Capt. Willard wants a mission. The Army wants Col. Kurtz dead. Col. Kurtz wants to go out like a soldier. Chief Phillips wants to be in charge of the boat. The Boys in the Boat want a way home. And in the end, everyone gets what they want…

    Willard gets his mission. The Army is rid of Kurtz. Kurtz dies “in battle”, Phillips dies in charge of his boat, and the Boys in the Boat all get home… Lance alive and broken, Chef and Mr. Clean dead (goin’ home to Jesus). Everyone got what they wanted. It what it was was chaos and death and destruction. Because not one of them were careful about what they wanted.

    That’s what’s coming here. And I think it will end up being tragedy sooner of later… perhaps not Grand Tragedy, but tragedy none the less.

  20. Dominion Voting Machine

    Politicians always piss people off to the point where in a few years the other side is voted back in

    Uh, sure… “votes”

  21. Re TD.
    There’s plenty of evidence for blacks and Hispanics already moving away from the Dems. If the GOP plays it’s cards right (not a given) that movement will continue and even accelerate.

  22. The Republican base, by the way, has become people who work in industries that actually require blue collar workers, whether college educated management or the guys on the floor.

    No, those are the floating voters; the equivalent of Boris’s wall. The base are those who’ve turned out and campaigned no matter what they’ve had to hold their noses for. And I can tell you now they aren’t campaigning for the Republican establishment again. And without that base, the floating middle aren’t enough.

    There’s plenty of evidence for blacks and Hispanics already moving away from the Dems. If the GOP plays it’s cards right (not a given) that movement will continue and even accelerate.

    Even if that were true the day before yesterday (there has been no significant movement with blacks), trotting it out now shows you just don’t get what a seismic event has occurred.

  23. Interesting times

    Assuming the swamp now over reaches itself we will see even more unrest

    This is the start

  24. The tea party showed that there was much popular support for an outsider.
    Trump capitalised on that, and as far as I can tell built on it.
    It is only a matter of time before some ambitious young person decides to lead the charge.
    Hopefully the next populist leader will seek to split the establishment, rather than take it all on at once.
    The interests of the CIA, the FBI, the education establishment, the media (mainstream or alt.) are not identical. Attacking them all is likely just but not effective.
    No revolution has ever succeeded without the support of a portion of the establishment.
    So the next guy needs to focus that populism against one portion of the current elite, whilst placating the rest.
    That won’t bring total victory, but it will bring lasting progress.

  25. Bloke in North Dorset

    Dennis summed it all up very nicely.

    I’m not a Trump fan, never have been, but I’ve been prepared to cut him a lot of slack because he wasn’t given the opportunity to govern. Not that I think he’d have been any more effective than he has been.

    I once commented on here that the Dems’ threat to stuff SCOTUS was the sort of stunt that historians point to as being the start of the end of the Roman Republic. Perhaps I should have pointed to the way the Dems and MSM concocted Russiagate and associated non-scandals?

  26. Tim.

    I know you are all for free speech, which is great, but you do say freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences, right?

    I’m not saying remove any of these comments, but surely you know a lot of the comments here are complete bs? Do you actually believe the election was stolen?

    Surely at some point you should air your views rather than just letting your comment section be a collection of pretty extreme comments?

    And how close is Mr Ecks comment “Time for Americans to use their guns is at hand.” to incitement of violence?

  27. Yep, the absolute denial of any possibility of the steal, and the refusal to investigate is the cause of the insurrection. Keep ignoring it if you want the country to degenerate to ungovernable.

    Blaming Trump for the riots is the same playground politics where the popular kids who can do no wrong blame the victim they beat up for everyone getting detention.

  28. I will reiterate what I said on another thread – if the votes were above board, then where is the harm in auditing them properly?
    It’s not sufficient to say that Biden won, you need to show that he won fairly, if in fact he did.

  29. The illegal – and, to my mind, usually immoral – thing is the immediate incitement to violence. Chaps, we’ve got to go kills the Nazis because Poland is not the illegal kind of incitement now, is it?

    And the consequences thing – that’s what other people say back about what has been said.

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