There is a slight problem here

A few congressional Democrats have said that we should just wait until the inauguration and turn the page. This is an active threat situation. Millions of people have been told, falsely, that an election was stolen and that a new government would destroy everything they hold dear. They are following that logic to its conclusion, and one riot with, thus far, no consequences will only embolden them. We have seen this happen throughout history, often tragically. Swift punishment rather than placating those who have distinguished themselves as sworn enemies is the proper course of action.

If the statement “The election was stolen” is sedition to be punished then what happens when an election really is stolen?

You know, like the Russians did in 2016?

19 thoughts on “There is a slight problem here”

  1. They ask: “Why is Trump still President?”
    Answer: ‘Cos the Constitution says his term hasn’t ended yet.

  2. If you imprison those who object to you winning the vote, you set the precedent for them imprisoning you when you object to them winning the vote.

  3. Haven’t the congressional Democrats spent the last four years bleating “the election was stolen” and “Russian collusion”? In my (ill-informed) opinion, Biden would most probably have won a free and fair election, but we’ll never know for sure, now.

  4. “In my (ill-informed) opinion, Biden would most probably have won a free and fair election…”

    I don’t think that he would, I think that he would have been splattered and I think that he knew it. That was why he had to cheat.

  5. @ Chris Miller:

    ” Haven’t the congressional Democrats spent the last four years bleating “the election was stolen” and “Russian collusion”?”

    That’s totally different because reasons. They’re going to show us the evidence any day now….

  6. In my (ill-informed) opinion, Biden would most probably have won a free and fair election…

    Nah. If you ignore the headlines about “Muh Biden won 11 million votes more than Drumpf” and look at the actual margins in the contested states they are actually pretty small. Sure, winning by a small margin brings the whole state to your column, but the devils in the details.

    Those dead people that voted (always a hardy perennial of the Democrats), didn’t dig themselves up and wander into the polling places to vote. They did so through specifically sanctioned gaps in the voting system because “Muh COVID-19”.

    The best that can be hoped for is that the broader American politicians at the state and local level realise the dangers of voter fraud actually brining down the US and restore a measure of balance before 2024. I’,m not holding my breath though.

  7. So Much For Subtlety

    I have said for years around here that the West’s liberal tradition is over. Intolerance has grown and grown.

    The only question now is whether they are going to put us behind bars or we are going to put them. For various values of us and them.

    They are insisting that legitimately objecting to cheating is not OK when we do it, but lying about 2016 is OK when they do it. We are seeing the end of the rule of law.

    The long Cold Civil War is drawing to a close. Let’s see what happens next.

  8. “In my (ill-informed) opinion, Biden would most probably have won a free and fair election…”

    It’s actually really very hard to say because we didn’t see what Biden would have done in a free and fair election. What he actually DID do would most certainly NOT have won a free and fair election. My guess is that he campaigned (or didn’t as the case may be) in the way he did (or didn’t as the case may be) precisely because he knew all along that it wasn’t going to be remotely free or fair.

    My further guess is that this is why it was such a body blow shock to Clinton in 2016 and why it took her so long to concede. She’d been told it was all arranged so when Trump came through harder than expected they discovered they hadn’t cheated hard enough.

    And further to that, they then spent 4 years ensuring they weren’t going to make the same mistake again. This time, they said, we will have it squared away properly. So when Trump came through even harder in 2020, they had to do a ton of stupid stuff in a panic on the night of the 3rd which made it plain as the nose on your face that it was rotten to the core.

  9. What we see now is the modern equivalent of the Reichstag Fire – scripted and planned by the Democrats as a way to clamp down on those who oppose them. And they have the totally willing cooperation from the Big Tech companies, probably in exchange for no changes to section 230.

    Perhaps Biden could get some additional hints from his paymaster Xi on how to run “re-education camps” for Trump supporters.We do see what Democrat calls for “unity” mean – think and do as we say or else. True fascism has started in the USA, and in part because both the GOP and Trump refused to take the matter seriously before the election. They were warned about attempts to steal the vote, yet made no real efforts to oppose it when it most mattered, and the post-election work was poorly handled.

  10. I am furious and I not American. If they think they are going to punish 100 million heavily armed people it is time for USA to kick off.

  11. Very large numbers of law enforcement officers are Republicans (in the old-fashioned rather than the political RINO sense) and the Capitol Hill guards who did nothing to prevent protestors casually strolling into the building were likely in agreement with them. The armed forces similarly contain large numbers of what used to be called patriots.

    Future crackdowns to suppress civil disobedience by the wrong side might not be as straightforward as the Dems expect.

  12. ‘If you imprison those who object to you winning the vote, you set the precedent for them imprisoning you when you object to them winning the vote.’

    Julius Caesar made the decision to invade southern Italy because his enemies could rake up any old criminal charge they liked once he no longer possessed imperium.

    The advantage of our present system is that we can change leaders and policies without a purge or civil war.

    To start the policy of railroading your political opponent once he loses office is really dangerous. I feel the Dems are playing with fire here.

  13. To start the policy of railroading your political opponent once he loses office is really dangerous. I feel the Dems are playing with fire here.

    Maybe they calculate that they can get enough dead people to vote for them in perpetuity that they don’t need to care.

  14. ‘Maybe they calculate that (if) they can get enough dead people to vote for them in perpetuity that they don’t need to care.’

    Inevitably there’ll be disputes among the oligarchy. The best you could hope for in that situation, and I mean BEST, would a system like present day China.

  15. I think there’s only a small chance that things go really bad quickly here in the U.S., but I do believe the Repubs are toast. Can’t imagine them gaining control of either House or the Presidency again. 1 – the party is bitterly divided, tens of millions love President Trump and are certain that he won and are crushed/furious that the party didn’t fight for him – good luck getting them to show up to vote any time soon. 2 – The Dems have the Philosopher’s Stone – they can cheat brazenly and get away with it. Whatever else they get up to before the 2022 elections they’ll be very focused on locking in vote-by-mail, no ID check, register & vote in minutes, etc. If they can’t pull this off nation-wide they can still lock down enough states to rule permanently. Then, it’s just a matter of time, one lucky election cycle in a red state, change the voting rules there and it’s never going back.

  16. Dennis, Pointing Out The Obvious

    Can’t imagine them gaining control of either House or the Presidency again.

    Perhaps you didn’t notice the significant gains the Republicans made in the House this past election.

    Gains, I might add, that no one in either party (or the MSM/political class) predicted.

    Make sure the body has quit moving before you bury it.

  17. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    I am furious and I not American.

    I am unsurprised by the first pronouncement and made deliriously happy by the second.

  18. Regarding Biden winning, remember in 2016 Trump lost the popular vote but won the EC by flipping Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, partly due to Clinton taking them for granted (and not even campaigning in WI IIRC).

    So, given the small margins involved, the anti-Trump factor and Dem’s get out the vote campaign to avoid that happening again I think it is possible that he could have won fairly, but I still have questions over the legitimacy of the win due to the many many red flags, the refusal to investigate and the shutting down of any dissenting views.

    (This post and the comments gave some interesting insights and points over the so-called debunking of the fraud claims- https://monsterhunternation.com/2021/01/05/one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-other/)

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