It is shocking indeed Polly

The Paradise papers leaked to the Guardian showed she personally had millions in the off-shore tax havens of Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, those shameful last remnants of her lost empire.

Keeping one’s money in a place one is Queen of does seem so odd…..

As to this:

It hardly matters what they are like, but for those like Dominic Cummings, obsessed with the genetic determinants of intelligence, the royal family is a pretty good rebuttal. If centuries of privileged breeding and top education still produces very ordinary people interested in horses, corgis, fishing and shooting, not known for cultural or intellectual pursuits except on duty, that suggests talent and merit are pretty genetically random.

Err, no, other way around. If continually reinforcing a set of genes through cousin marriage never does produce talent then that’s evidence not of randomness of talent but of how genes determine it….

21 thoughts on “It is shocking indeed Polly”

  1. I believe Polly somehow got in Oxford with one A level after failing her 11 plus. She then dropped out without a degree.

    I don’t think she should question anyone’s intelligence.

  2. I do love the extent to which the modern British Left are just the one crowd of trustafarians wailing at the other smaller crowd of trustafarians (i.e. Boris) who used to give them wedgies at prep school.

  3. Kinda destroys the whole “blank slate” thing, doesn’t it? They all had private schools, private tutors, and other than Princess Anne, are not particularly bright.

  4. I believe Polly somehow got in Oxford with one A level after failing her 11 plus. She then dropped out without a degree.

    I don’t think she should question anyone’s intelligence.

    She probably shouldn’t be questioning anyone’s privilege either.

  5. So Much For Subtlety

    Well Polly is an argument that intelligence is not easily described genetically if it is genetic at all. She is a woman of very limited intelligence from an intelligent family. The apple did fall quite far from the tree. And then rolled down the hill some way.

    But the Royals are proof that all the money in the world cannot make a thick person academically brilliant. The Royals are not where they are because they passed the 11 plus. They got there with axe in bloody hand. Not skills requiring a lot of intelligence. None of them have ever shown signs of being mildly intelligent. Not even Anne.

  6. If centuries of privileged breeding and top education still produces very ordinary people

    Confused. Noted, re in-breeding (privileged or otherwise), but how does anything relating to the outcomes of “top education” affect genetics?

    BoM4 – and yes, exactly.

  7. “Prince Philip approached the group I was with and asked where I was from. “The Guardian,” I said, and asked: “Do you ever read it?” “No fear!” he said, and spun on his heel.”

    Well Prince Philip shows good judgement if nothing else. And restraint. He didn’t say “fuck off you wizened up, hypocritical, spiteful old trout”.

  8. Harry Haddock's Ghost

    I love the way that anything ‘rural’ is automatically excluded from being an ‘intellectual persuit’

    De facto cultural bigotry right there, showing what an awful fraud she is.

  9. As Smfs remarks, Polly Toynbee is herself a refutation of genetic influence on intelligence. Her whole career is based on cronyism rather than merit. I suppose she fills the single slot for white hetero cis woman at the Guardian

  10. I remarked once in a blog comment that we had known a not-too-bright Steiner granddaughter.

    The blogger replied that Steiner had no granddaughters.

    The gild had misled us. God knows why.

  11. It seems that Steiner is the 7th most common surname in Austria. There a lot of them around – including a Romanian footballer

  12. those shameful last remnants of her lost empire

    Lefties really can’t let go of the Empire, can they? Some cock end from the FT has written a book about Brexit which, according to reviews, twats on endlessly about Suez and the loss of Empire. Meanwhile those of us who are meant to shed tears over the vanished glory of the Raj etc don’t really give two shits about it.

  13. If centuries of privileged breeding and top education still produces very ordinary people interested in horses, corgis, fishing and shooting, not known for cultural or intellectual pursuits except on duty, that suggests talent and merit are pretty genetically random.

    She has made the very simple mistake of assuming they were bred for intelligence. And as someone else said, she has blown a hole in the floor of her Blank Slateism.

  14. Well, I voted against making her Elizabeth the Last of Oz because I considered the alternatives.

    If becoming a republic means you Brits have twats like Polly as Madam Leader, I can’t see that it’d be a hard choice to make.

  15. Andrew C, I am reminded of Chris Bryant’s most pertinent contribution to Parliament:

    […]I will mention one further capacity that His Royal Highness has: the ability to put MPs in their place.

    Parmjit Dhanda, when he was the Member for Gloucester, was invited in 2001, as I think was the current Prime Minister and others elected that year—it was our 10th anniversary yesterday—to Buckingham palace, and the Duke of Edinburgh went up to Parmjit and said, “So, what did you do before you got this job?” Parmjit said, “I worked in a trade union.” The Duke immediately replied, “Bugger all, then.” Parmjit, somewhat offended and thinking that he would retaliate with force, asked, “Well, what did you do before you got this job?”, to which the Duke replied, “Fought in the second world war.”

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *