Vengeance may be said to be a dish best served cold but Alex Salmond, in the words of Robert Burns, his favourite poet, has been “nursing his wrath to keep it warm” every day of these past 11 months. So much so that most observers, including this one, now reckon that his long-cherished political aim – Scottish independence – is taking a poor second place to that of destroying Sturgeon.
Whether ScotIndy should happen or not is an interesting question. One that should be decided by mature reflection and consideration. I think yes but so what?
The claim here is that it will actually be decided by which demented porridge wog lied about the other.
Politics is, clearly, a really shitty way of running things.
I had hoped to see the back of the Scots, but this is going to put the cause of English liberation back decades.
Not entirely serious. 😉
Should this be called Fishgate?
ScotsNationalism appears to be one of those charsimatic cults. They have been lucky in the last 20-odd years that they have had leaders of the calibre of Salmond and Sturgeon. Admittedly to an outsider why anyone would follow these two is a mystery. Nonetheless people do and they have been helped by the disintegration of Labour in Jockland after that old fraud Dewar snuffed it. The rest of the SNP are numpties, look at EUParl, Holyrood or Westminster and one sees pompous windbags or downright evil scum like that Hamza chap and a government of none of the talents.
It is worrying, if Sturgeon and Salmond both go over the falls locked in some death grip, who is there to achieve what basically is the aim of all right thinking Englanders and get the Jocks off of our balance sheet ?
I don’t know. I think demented porridge wogs tearing each other down is precisely why Scottish independence is unlikely to work. Bad political ideas get horrible people supporting them – see the rape gangs that so many Trot sects end up being. A panel of experts might decide it is a good idea.
The only thing that could give me more pleasure than Salmon and Sturgeon going at each other in the courts would be for them to fight in the traditional Highland manner – bare breasted with a baby on the hip.
Well maybe not bare breasted. It might kill what heterosexuality is left in Scotland
@SMFS- +1 for the Blackadder reference!
If the case for Scottish is weak enough for it to be derailed over a spat between its two most senior figures then it doesn’t say much for it, does it?
I don’t think it is.
Scottish politics tends towards monomania (before “independence” was going to Fix Everything, Labour was going to Fix Everything. I guess you could work your way backwards to Calvinism, the Darien Scheme, and other flavour-of-the-month Caledonian enthusiasms.) Scots make good fanatics.
Nicola Sturgeon has the charisma of a poorly cleaned toilet brush, so it obviously doesn’t matter much who’s running the circus.
Well, as a foreigner, I feel that the Scots would be better off remaining as part of Britain.
Which when you look at the present British government is really a pretty terrifying thought.
Of course they would. It’s just that the rest of us are sick of listening to their whining about how we’re not making them better off enough.
As a non-Scot resident in Scotland, it’s my opinion that both Salmond and Sturgeon (aka Fishgate) are horrible people and the inquiry might at least by the place where they both lose what little they have left.
If that happens I will be opening the bubbly.
Quite which nutter will lead the demented porridge wogs after Nippy Sweety I’ve no idea, but a change might be as good as a rest. I’m sick and tired of hearing that grating voice of hers hectoring us on the telly broadcasting from SNazi high command.
“nursing his wrath to keep it warm”
Describes the typical Sweaty’s attitude to the English, ongoing.
Overall, though, I’m still in favour of staying in union. Five minutes after their independence party hangover wears off they’ll be conspiring with the French against us. And nowadays we’re not allowed to go all Catherine of Aragon upon them.
Ottokring
“They have been lucky in the last 20-odd years that they have had leaders of the calibre of Salmond and Sturgeon.”
That’s the point. If you are solely focused on one , narrow, outcome and everything else – economy, health, education, crime, etc. – can go hang, “leadership” becomes very easy. Charisma be damned.
Steve has it right: Monomania.
The cosmic joke is that Scotland COULD be a prosperous independent nation. But only by flushing their love of socialism down the shitter. And using their traditionally ascribed thrift and industry to [prosper under the market.
Most Scots seem to love socialism a Hell of a lot more than they love Scotland. And thus Scotland is on a down-bound train regardless of which idiot runs it. Indeed the SNP has increasing numbers of imported RoP as its second string crew. Even worse for Scotland.
SMFS,
“I don’t know. I think demented porridge wogs tearing each other down is precisely why Scottish independence is unlikely to work. Bad political ideas get horrible people supporting them – see the rape gangs that so many Trot sects end up being. A panel of experts might decide it is a good idea.”
Yup. The thing is that good people care about ideas. You might consider them wrong, but some people go into politics to help others and so they discount obviously terrible ideas like communism. They’ll also keep working even if they’re 4th in command rather than top dog, because whoever leads, the idea matters.
And that’s why you get schisms in bad parties with bad ideas. Because if you don’t really care about the idea, and you didn’t get a job, what are you getting out of it?
As a proud Brit descended from generations of proud Brits I’m sick and tired of the Unionist version of cuckservatives immediately conceding to the Natzis.
We have already had a once in a lifetime referendum which the Spiteful Nannying Party resoundingly lost.
They are a minority administration kept in power by some watermelons.
Their primary skill set is causing a fight in an empty room.
To those who whinge about subsidising the jocks, learn some bloody history.
The subsidised areas of the country move about over generations.
At the moment the only profitable part of the country is London and the SE, all the rest from Cornwall to Sutherland is ” subsidised”, that will change over generations if you show some historical awareness of our countries history.
Also oh ye of short memories, you weren’t whinging about subsidy during the decades of high oil revenues.
In many ways its just like the lefts standard, thats different because reasons.
Nessimersion,
“At the moment the only profitable part of the country is London and the SE, all the rest from Cornwall to Sutherland is ” subsidised”, that will change over generations if you show some historical awareness of our countries history.”
Going back only a few years, the midlands and the South West were in there too. But when was Scotland last contributing? 40 years ago? More?
I suspect part of the problem that Scotland has is that people who have something going for them are more likely to leave. If you have a choice, do you want the weather you get living in Newbury or Glasgow? More days out in t-shirts or anoraks? I’ve been to Scotland and the people seemed perfectly nice, the place seemed OK, but you’d have to pay me a lot more to move there because of the weather.
BonM4- its a failure of patriotism to only support patriotism for those areas that make a profit, something no Usian or Frenchman suffers from.
UK oil was supporting the economy for 40 years up until 2005 or so, so a lot more recently than the Midlands, SW or Liverpool.
The argument is pointless, on a scale of 300 years it moves about a lot.
Even your reference about the weather isn’t actually accurate.
Its the western bits of the UK that are dampest and the eastern bits which are driest i.e. weather in Lake district is considerably damper and colder than in East Lothian say. Look at RHS charts for planting dates last frost day etc if you don’t believe me.
I would contend people move for economic opportunity, there are 10’s of thousands of English accents in the NE who moved there for oil industry work, similarly Londonistan is full of Scots English Irish etc who all moved there for money.
Similarly rural perthshire has the highest RR ownership in UK from all the Londoners who choose to retire there and convert a semi in Cheyne to riches elsewhere.