Quite so

Shrubsole’s response is straightforward. “The one thing I think is potentially unfair is the constant comparison between [men and women’s sport],” she said.

“We are never going to bowl as fast or hit the ball as hard because we physically can’t. There’s nothing we can do about that – men and women are biologically different.

“Just because we can’t do that, doesn’t mean there’s any less skill involved. The same with 100-metre sprinters – biologically, the two can’t compete in the same field.

So, what do we do about those who are genetically on the one side here but want to bat for the other?

17 thoughts on “Quite so”

  1. ’ There’s nothing we can do about that – men and women are biologically different.’

    When does she report to the Re-education Booth?

  2. Darts needs a different explanation rather than stronger faster. One would think there’s a weight advantage for some reason in the top players if so then weight divisions could still be unisex.

  3. Her comments are generally sensible, but the bit about skill? I watched some of the Eng vs WI women’s T20 internationals and some of the fielding would have disgraced a schoolboys team.

  4. Try hooking a ball at 90mph vs 70mph.

    No thanks: I once faced a bowler in Australia so quick that I effectively couldn’t see the ball. Thank God he was a sportsman not a bully.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    I had a similar experience to dearieme, the following week I decided that at 40 I’d had enough of 1st team cricket and relegated myself to Sunday 2nds.

  6. a few years watched the Windies film Babylons something burning?- watching lidless Brian Close’s (?) get a peppering in the ribcage by the windies quicks was scary just to watch. I’d describe it as manliness but having watched some very game female MMA fighters it’s not an exclusively male trait.

  7. Darts and snooker – perhaps the difference is because many fewer women play darts or snooker. If there are 10x as may men as women playing data there’ll be 10x as many top players.

  8. The US girls soccer (footall) team practices against middle school boys—and loses. She may be overstating the skill angle.

  9. “I disagree about the “equal skill” part. Try hooking a ball at 90mph vs 70mph”

    Don’t think they reach that speed. The quickest bowlers (excluding the long retired Jo Chamberlain) are about the same speed as brisk spinners, like Kumble and Afridi, mid 60s.

    As for the skill … one can see the discrepancy in hitting the ball and pace bowling, but spin bowling and wicketkeeping ?

  10. What I don’t understand about women’s cricket is why don’t the batters dominate more. I can see that physiology will limit the speed of the bowling but surely the only limit for the batter is speed of thought. Look at the difference between a Stokes and say a Root or Pope, Stokes is clearly bigger and stronger but Root and Pope can match and exceed his batting exploits. So my question is, why don’t women batters dominate more? Because they don’t suffer mentally v the men, so they can see the ball as quickly and time it as well. You don’t often see a male batter being beaten for seed at 70mph so why do we see women batters being beaten? Why not just turn up the bowling machine in the nets to 85mph and so when they are out in the middle it will seem like slow motion?

  11. “We are never going to bowl as fast or hit the ball as hard because we physically can’t. There’s nothing we can do about that – men and women are biologically different. Just because we can’t do that, doesn’t mean there’s any less skill involved.”

    By her logic every amateur cricketer who can bowl at 70mph (or hit that standard of bowling bowling out of the park) is just as skilful as the England mens team. After all they are not capable of competing with the top pros either, but presumably because they are doing the best their bodies will allow, they are in fact highly skilled. And should be given big professional contracts by the ECB to play cricket for Upper Snodsworth 2nd XI, and be funded to travel the world to play equally (un)talented cricketers overseas………….

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