Sorta missing the point

Reproduction without pregnancy: would it really emancipate women?
Jenny Kleeman
It may sound far-fetched, but a breakthrough in Israel has brought us a step closer to creating artificial wombs for humans

One worry is will women be allowed to have abortions – in the sense of killing, rather than removing the foetus, which is the true meaning – is removal can be done into an artificial womb?

Seems a little odd.

But the bigger mistake is to think that artificial pregnancy would free women from childcare. Not really, no, because we’ve a few million years of evolution pushing that idea. It might even, if we want to say so, not be necessary that women be the ones who do this. But we’re still built as a species that women are more disposed to than men…..

12 thoughts on “Sorta missing the point”

  1. Let’s see now… work long hours in a boring job with vapid people, or look after your babies (a role which a lot of the time involves drinking coffee with your friends)? Paid for by a man, who works long hours in a boring job…

    When you’re on your deathbed, who would say “I wish I had spent more time in the office” rather than “I wish I had spent more time with my children when they were younger”?

    The real question is why women are making a fuss about this at all?

  2. aaa

    “The real question is why women are making a fuss about this at all?”

    Women, as a group, are not making a fuss about this. Sharp-elbowed alpha-women, who desire to use any tool – and feminism is a good enough tool – to weight the scales in their favour, make a fuss.

  3. But the Femitariat would no doubt employ Professionals to deal with the arduous task of child-raising in carefully maintained Facilities, so that … etc..

    There’s a fair number of scenarios/variations on this in speculative fiction. Funny, but none of those can exactly be called “utopian”, most are …worse..

  4. A baby was brought in to work recently. There was so much clucking I thought we must have a chicken loose.

    The men went “meh”. A few went over to talk to the mother.

  5. But the bigger mistake is to think that artificial pregnancy would free women from childcare.

    Hmmm. More than a few men (self included) have been subject to parental alienation and child abduction legally enabled by the courts. So the idea of being able to raise a child on our own without being subject to the random hormonal outrages of women is increasingly attractive.

    They’d never allow it though, since it would undermine female hegemony.

  6. If this technology proves viable I wouldn’t have any problem with reclassifying removing a foetus and killing it as murder. Get knocked up and don’t want it? Then sign it over and have it removed to an artificial womb, after which it can be put up for adoption or raised in an orphanage.

  7. If this technology proves viable I wouldn’t have any problem with reclassifying removing a foetus and killing it as murder. Get knocked up and don’t want it? Then sign it over and have it removed to an artificial womb, after which it can be put up for adoption or raised in an orphanage.

    As long as the actual father gets first call on the child and it is treated as his child, not an adoption or surrogacy then I would have no problem with this. Truth is though that some women would refuse out of pure spite.

  8. Lots of women love being pregnant. No monthly visits from the evil Auntie.

    When the women on maternity leave bring their newborns to the office, my unvarying comment is “Who’s the father? ET?”

  9. Grikath: The speculative fiction I remember is Larry Niven’s essay, ‘Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex’.

    The artificial womb would certainly be helpful if Superman wished to father a child.

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