There might be an answer here Anneliese

Our country is in the midst of the worst economic crisis of any major economy. The question facing us all is why, in one of the richest countries in the world, with our brilliant NHS, key workers and scientists, we have suffered so badly.

Base logic would suggest that the unique outcome is a result of the one unique part of our system – the NHS……

16 thoughts on “There might be an answer here Anneliese”

  1. The Meissen Bison

    Our country is in the midst of the worst economic crisis of any major economy.

    Is that so?

    our brilliant NHS, key workers and scientists

    Is that claim justified?

    And what’s the connection between these two things?

  2. ‘… is in the midst of the worst economic crisis of any major economy.’

    Supporting data please.

    For example is the UK economy worse then the French economy… nearest by geography, population, GDP?

    France’s economy was worse than the UK’s pre-CoVid, it has done nothing less idiotic than the UK in the ‘crisis’. It seems unlikely it is now better than the UK. In fact what about Italy, Spain, even Germany?

  3. Would the ‘brilliant key workers’ in this NHS be the ones in the local hospital who have botched two appointment setting attempts for my mother recently? I mean, it’s not rocket science to set an appointment and pass the details on to the right department, is it?

  4. Simple answers…

    Some of our scientists are indeed brilliant, though not so much so for the members of SAGE.

    “Key workers”,some are some aren’t – supermarket and delivery people have been superb, some of our “nationalised” key workers have been utterly shite.

    NHS – really hasn’t come out of the Covid crisis looking good at all.

    The real damage has been done by the hysterical over-reactions of the government, far more than that done by the disease itself.

  5. So far I have had a WiFi fault for 9 days. BT promised to send out a new hub 8 days ago. The order was rescinded but no one told me. I just waited for the delivery. Another long round of phone calls and an engineer visit was scheduled. A “no show”. A quick glance at the online fault tracker suggests that it was cancelled internally, again without anyone telling me. Another visit now booked. It’s difficult for 2 people working from home without WiFi, depending on 3G for a connection. Brilliant key workers my axxe. If it goes on much longer, I’ll have to try a long ethernet connection

  6. At the moment, any published GDP figures are even less accurate than usual, mainly because of the way government spending is tracked. No one can really say that Government output has remained steady over the last year but spending has increased. So assertions about which economy is doing better are fairly meaningless for countries still in lockdown or working at reduced capacity. It doesn’t stop the Remoaners and the die-hard guardianistas, though

  7. The vaccination programme has been surprisingly good although from personal observation this appears largely due to the contribution of numerous volunteers rather than nhs Demi-gods.

  8. These marvellous NHS workers would be the same people who removed me from the vaccination database because the text that they sent to my old phone didtgo through. Rather than send me a letter like the one they sent my wife, they took me off their list.

  9. The assertion is completely untrue – with the UK right in the middle of the pack. The ONS measures output, and the EU and US measure input. Every doctor appointment missed, surgery postponed, lesson not taught, court case delayed impacts the UK GDP stats, but not the EU equivalent as the staff are still getting paid. Inevitably our headline fall will be sharper – as will be our recovery. If you compare apples with apples then we look entirely normal. The UK’s ONS approach is much more honest. Those drawing false comparisons not so much.

  10. Shirely the answer to “why economy” is “something economy” not “something healthcare”.

    Depends. If the “envy of the world” is responsible for between 20% and 40% (*) of all kung flu infections, then that can clearly have an economic impact – even if it’s just keeping the bbc supplied with bad news so the lockdowns extend for longer.

    * https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/13/latest-news-284/

  11. Dennis, Helpful As Always

    Our country is in the midst of the worst economic crisis of any major economy.

    Last time I checked, all of the present “economic crises” are the result of governments’ responses to COVID, not COVID itself. If your crisis is worse than others, then perhaps a look at your government’s response vs. that of other nations.

    The question facing us all is why, in one of the richest countries in the world, with our brilliant NHS, key workers and scientists, we have suffered so badly.

    Perhaps your brilliant NHS, key workers and scientists aren’t worth a shit. After listening to Fauci and the Center for Disease Control for a year, that’s the conclusion I’ve come to over here in ‘Merica.

  12. @ Dennis, Helpful as Always

    Last time I checked, all of the present “economic crises” are the result of governments’ responses to COVID, not COVID itself. If your crisis is worse than others, then perhaps a look at your government’s response vs. that of other nations.

    Perhaps your brilliant NHS, key workers and scientists aren’t worth a shit.

    Yep. We now get utter shite – from an “expert” called Trish:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/joggers-should-wear-face-mask-prevent-spread-coronavirus-says/

    Joggers should wear a face mask to prevent the spread of coronavirus, a University of Oxford expert has said.
    .
    Trish Greenhalgh, a primary health care academic, urged people exercising outdoors to cover their noses and mouths so they do not unintentionally transmit the virus.
    .
    Advice from the NHS encourages outdoor exercise during lockdown because of its physical and mental health benefits, but Prof Greenhalgh said joggers must also consider the potential risks to others.
    .
    “There is no doubt the virus is in the air, there is no doubt that you can catch it if you inhale and that someone else has exhaled,” she told ITV’s Good Morning Britain.
    .
    “The exercising jogger – the puffing and panting jogger – you can feel their breath come and you can sometimes actually feel yourself inhale it, so there’s no doubt that there is a danger there.

    FS, even the WHO don’t come out with spaz like this.

  13. If it results in a ban on joggers, Coronavirus will have been worth it. And please, please. Don’t forget the men-in-lycra.

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