An interesting claim

No matter where you come from or what your circumstances are, we will drive up school standards to ensure opportunities abound.

From Keir Starmer.

Presumably they’re going to sell off the state sector to the public schools then. Given that’s where the higher standards are….

15 thoughts on “An interesting claim”

  1. Labour have been in charge (through being in government, in academia or via the unions)of state education for over 50 years so have ultimately facilitated the current performance levels.
    Likewise the NHS.
    Seems to me they have had more than enough time to get it right but have patently failed.
    Einsteins “doing the same thing” etc. etc. is apposite.

  2. Bloke in North Dorset

    Driving up higher standards is Labour speak for stuffing teachers’ mouths with gold.

  3. Didn’t someone once define insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting to get a different result? The policies created by the Education Establishment have been tried over and over for the last 50 years and the result has been worse outcomes for children in England. You’d think that someone on the left might make the connection, but it seems not.

  4. State sector budget is £6,000 per pupil. Places in the private sector start at £12k.

    I’m not one for defending the public sector, but it’s hardly a fair comparison.

  5. Dear Mr Worstall

    In next week’s news, the chocolate ration will be driven up from 30 grammes per week to 110 grammes per month.

    DP

  6. Andrew,
    Last time I looked it was more like 8000 primary 10,000 secondary although that may have been London. I don’t think that includes the capital cost of the buildings either.

  7. ‘Get all schools above average.’ That’s the left’s standard ploy- replace actual, achievable targets with moving ones that can never be met, to keep the gravy train moving. The best example was replacing absolute poverty with relative (60% of median income).

  8. @Andy
    They’ve done even better than that with ‘poverty’. 60% of median income is now ‘absolute’ poverty (a strange term, one might think, to use for a measure defined relatively), but there isn’t ‘enough’ of that to keep the poverty industry in trebles all round, so along comes ‘relative’ poverty defined as 80% of median income.

  9. Andrew M,

    “I’m not one for defending the public sector, but it’s hardly a fair comparison.”

    Discount the effects of having the genes of successful parents, entrance exams keeping out the thickies and scholarships boosting the standard, and there isn’t much difference in results.

    Nearly everything about how well kids do at school is down to the child. The Blank Slate people help to keep private schools going.

  10. Bloke in Montgomeryshire

    Jonathan: “…and the result has been worse outcomes for children in England.” Those of us privileged to live in hotbeds of leftism, Wales and Scotland, have even worse education results than England!

  11. Bloke on M4. You are right, but only if the schools are good.

    If the school has extensive bullying, violence or stupid teaching practices, then even clever hard working kids won’t do well.

  12. “State sector budget is £6,000 per pupil. Places in the private sector start at £12k.”

    Years ago I saw an article by the Bursar of (I think) an independent grammar school in Newcastle that demolished such comparisons. They are always faked by what is omitted on the state side. Thus the private school has to fund its own administration, but the local authority and DoE expenditure on administration is omitted from the £6k. The private school has to find funds for its capital expenditure, likewise omitted from the £6k. The private school will have a higher proportion of its pupils staying on for sixth form, an expensive business. That too is omitted in the comparison.

    He was rather persuasive. And then much later we moved a daughter to a private school. Goodbye to the state school’s large playing fields, hello to a tarmac netball court; goodbye to small classes; goodbye to the swimming pool. That was persuasive too.

  13. Two things will improve school standards. First, get rid of teacher’s unions. They are there for the benefit of the teachers, not the students. Second, give the parents vouchers for education, amount to include all of the costs that dearieme detailed above.

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