The trans activists have, she explains, hit the bedroom too. A trans woman with an unchanged male body may now “self-identify” as a lesbian. She (to use her preferred pronoun, which Stock politely does throughout) may want to have sex with lesbians. But lesbians, Stock tells us, are sexually attracted to adults with a female body. Campaigners call this the “cotton ceiling” and run workshops on how to overcome it.
That some in the society go mad is of course entirely normal. That some corner believes entire oddities – Jebus is back Tues afternoon, I’m Napoleon, MOAR TAX – is just how it goes.
That the delusions become commonplace, even enforced, is much odder. Clearly it happens though.
Leave the lesbian part aside for a moment and examine the assertion again.
Gender is in the head not the biology – that second we might call sex. Sexual attraction is to the gender and not the sex. We might think that fails as we do call it sexual, not gender, attraction. But follow the logic of this. It therefore means that Eddie Izzard is a person of at least potential lust for heterosexual males.
Is this true? Therefore there’s something wrong with the chain of logic that leads to the insistence, isn’t there? It could even be true that Eddie ought to be, should be, lusted after by blokes who do so over Melinda Messenger. That they don’t shows that the should doesn’t always lead to the do – the usual problem with those progressive phantasms built upon wishes about human nature.
Lets have more of it. The loonier this gets the quicker we can come to our senses as a country.
If someone really wants to believe that, I guess that’s their lookout. I mean, as you say, they won’t be the first person in history to believe something idiotic (hiya, Spud!).
The problem – and a hardcore minority of trans activists seem compelled to make it a problem – is when they insist that I believe it too, backed up with threats to complain about me to my friends, family and employer if I don’t comply.
So that’s how we end up with a woman winning gold in the men’s Olympic Decathlon and a man being nominated for a best supporting actress Oscar.
@BiND: you’re such an optimist.
Yeah, aaa. I can put up with some bloke in a frock thinking he’s a woman. I’ll just quietly leave, vomiting as I go.
But when they say I’VE got to have the hots for him. Eeeeuuww!!!! No way.
I’m a sexist. I prefer real women.
The reason the libertarian approach to this doesn’t help is because sanity is socially constructed, therefore insanity is infectious:
In 2004, she tells us in the introduction, “it was estimated there were about 2,000–5,000 trans people in the UK” […] but the “best estimate” of the trans population in the UK now, according to Stonewall, is “about 600,000”
Sure, it’s Stonewall so they might be juicing the figures. They’re probably right about the trend though.
There were only two of them outside a minute ago and now how many are there?
Lots.
And it isn’t just adults. From 2009 to 2019 the number of boys seeking help from the NHS Gender Identity Development Service for children went up by 1,460 per cent and the number of girls by 5,337 per cent. In 2018 the youngest patient was three.
This is a pandemic of madness, aided and abetted by pornsick men and Munchausen mothers.
Many of the children have been prescribed “puberty blockers”, drugs licensed for prostate cancer and endometriosis, Stock explains, but not for children with gender dysphoria, and most of those have gone on to take cross-sex hormone treatment.
The reason the transcult is so keen on “puberty blockers” is because they’re a pipeline to full-blown trannydom. Without them the vast majority of children come to term with their biological sex with no medical intervention required.
Sanity and insanity can’t coexist. We are unable to politely agree to disagree with gender theory – they want you ruined, humiliated and jailed if you do, and the British police support them 100%.
So the TERFS are right. Transwomen aren’t women, they’re tragically deluded and sometimes predatory men. Transmen aren’t men, they’re sadly confused little girls who are frightened of womanhood.
There’s no such thing as transgender, only porn addicts and evangelical mental illness. The only solution is lions.
The Left are behind the trans issue, because its the perfect one for them. If they can demand that people agree that Men are Women despite the evidence of their own eyes, they’ve won. They can then say anything and force people to agree with it, which is the end goal, a la 1984. They care nothing for trans people, any more than they cared for the working classes, women, gays etc etc. Everything is a means to an end. In an actual Socialist Utopia® trans people would be either chucked off the nearest building or put in sanatoriums.
See Autogynephilia:
Autogynephilia (derived from Greek for ‘love of oneself as a woman’ [a]) is the term Blanchard coined for “a male’s propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female”, intending for the term to refer to “the full gamut of erotically arousing cross-gender behaviors and fantasies”. Blanchard states that he intended the term to subsume transvestism, including for sexual ideas in which feminine clothing plays only a small or no role at all. Other terms for such cross-gender fantasies and behaviors include automonosexuality, eonism, and sexo-aesthetic inversion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology#Autogynephilia
@Bloke in North Dorset – April 25, 2021 at 8:04 am
The loonier this gets the quicker we can come to our senses as a country.
That’s fine… Just as long as the country “comes to its senses” before the insanity gets enshrined in law. And I’m not over-confident that it will.
At what point is mentioning pheromones as the basis for sexual attraction offensive and transphobic?
“but the “best estimate” of the trans population in the UK now, according to Stonewall, is “about 600,000””
Wonderfully, we’ll have concrete facts in a couple of years’ time when the census statistics are published. I predict waves of outrage at the unacceptably low figures.
That the delusions become commonplace, even enforced, is much odder.
No it isn’t, it has been the norm for all of human history (and most likely pre-history as well). Constant eruptions of new batshit with various lengths of time occupied by a dominant batshitness. Batshitnessess that encourage reproduction and a reasonably stable society will dominate for the longest.
Prediction: the transbatshit dominance will be very short. Its whole time is borrowed from the Cultural Marxist batshitness, and will hopefully not be paid back.
The only solution is lions.
You know I’m normally with you on this, but I no longer believe lions are enough. We need fire too.
We can now see the film Victor Victoria – a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman -was ahead of it’s time, not art, it was prescient reality.
Why are there no ex-women trannies who want to play men’s football or men’s rugby? I think we should be told.
All perfectly normal…
https://twitter.com/Slatzism/status/1385991794735919112
Dawkins as has shown us the path – transblack rights need to become a meme. It’s unanswerable within the logic of intersectional cobblers (race is a social construct, it’s muh lived experience etc…) But makes the critical race theorist’s heads explode.
I like the idea of having the list of sexual preferences expanded.
Straight : person attracted to the opposite gender, even if trans
Homo: person attracted to same gender, even if trans
Super-straight: person attracted to opposite gender, not including trans
Super-homo: person attracted to same gender, not including trans
Can’t remember where this originates, but is a good laugh. Irritates lefties by allowing them to think that men can be women etc, but reminds them that you’re not going to be indulging them in their fantasy, but in a polite way.
Actually, the real question is how long will this tottering jenga tower of absurdities stay up? For the twitter kids being gender fluid was their punk rock; it upset the normies, which was always the point, but was ultimately all play-acting. They’ll get bored and move on to something else. The joke will be on the grown-ups who took them seriously.
@ljh, By their definition, always.
The pheromones we do have are close-range and may play a role in “clinching the deal”, but other than “girls smell good” there isn’t much behind them for us. Something to do with the fact that we can spot a luscious figure half a mile away with our eyes… Our sense of smell is … a steph-cousin-twice-removed when it comes to our sight.
Which is the problem for the Trans-deluded.. Plastic surgery can give them , at least in theory, a body that makes the wolves howl for any given metric.. Until they come close, and still smell “Not Right” to your average heterosexual. Especially in a sweaty environment like a club, a busy pub… or a locker room with girls…
So up next for them… Trying to ban/legislate body chemistry… I’d like to see them try..
@steve Classic Libertarianism does hold a solution to this problem: demarcating your boundaries.
Of course, the Classics lived in a time where that demarcation included a-double-barrel-to-the-face ( trigger-pulling optional) as a valid response to people attempting to tell you what to do/think against your own reasoned opinion…
The Loonies have been very careful to remove that option for us, progressed to banning the knuckle sandwich as a demotivator to meddlesome behaviour, and now proceed to push the “argument” that “hurtful language” ought to be a capital offense.
Incidentally… A mate of mine has been breeding ferrets back to their wild-form.. Safer (and less space-consuming) than lions, but just as effective in bulk. Lovely cat-sized territorial murder machines that can be surprisingly cuddly if treated properly (if a bit…rough..on play). And they don’t like Strangers and will gang up on them…
Anyone interested? 😉
Wolverines. Not that they do play nicely in groups. Or perhaps we could train Honey Badger?
Is this true?
No.
Next…
Which is the problem for the Trans-deluded.. Plastic surgery can give them , at least in theory, a body that makes the wolves howl for any given metric.. Until they come close, and still smell “Not Right” to your average heterosexual. Especially in a sweaty environment like a club, a busy pub… or a locker room with girls…
Nah. You can spot a transwoman a mile off no matter how feminine they might look. Look at the hips. They may have had feminising surgery on the brow ridges, jawline and Adam’s apple and silicon boobs, but the shoulder/hips/waist ratio will always be a giveaway. Even if you don’t consciously note it, something will be wrong and the alarm bells will start clanging.
Or as one gay man said “why would a beautiful young man want to become an ugly woman?”
All the Mustelids would be useful. How about sables? Apparently they can be pretty nasty.
“how long will this tottering jenga tower of absurdities stay up?”
Judging by the Abraham/Moses fables, three and a half millennia.