Something of a big ask

That something else seems to involve a continuing acceptance of coronavirus. There is no elimination strategy of any sort now apparent.

It’s not just the ignorance of the costs of trying to eliminate a pandemic disease. Eliminate rather than control to an acceptable limit that is. It’s that, well, umm, how?

Do we actually have an example – a non-vaccination example perhaps – of how to eliminate a pandemic disease?

16 thoughts on “Something of a big ask”

  1. The only way, other than vaccination ( which isn’t possible with a fast mutating virus anyway), would be quarantining areas where a virus popped up, them waiting for it to die out before lifting the quarantine.

    Works fine in the middle ages, when the majority of the population grow enough food and things to support themselves. When diseases cropped up, villages would not let outsiders in. Then the illnesses just burnt out after a while, either from killing everyone or not finding new hosts.
    Wouldn’t be too good in the modern era though. I imagine quarantining Ipswich would result in Stalingrad-on-Orwell.

  2. Highly amusing to read the comments on his site. He really has managed to pick up the kind of readership he deserves.

  3. Do we actually have an example – a non-vaccination example perhaps – of how to eliminate a pandemic disease?

    FMD: we kill everything within 2 miles of each confirmed case.

    (I really shouldn’t give Witless and Unbalanced any ideas)

  4. ” the illnesses just burnt out after a while, either from killing everyone or not finding new hosts.”
    Wouldn’t work with C19. The disease is nearly lethal enough.
    It occurs, this whole bloody episode is the direct result of recent advances in medical science. A few decades ago coronavirus would have worked its way through the population completely unnoticed. A relatively small uptick in mortality rates because there wouldn’t have been as many vulnerable elderly surviving to be at risk. The techniques to identify the virus wouldn’t be available.
    Begs the question. How many times has the world been through this before? Maybe diseases like this have been regular events. Just that nobody noticed before.

  5. Ritchie is desperate for the current government to fail, but he loves lockdown as it is his Courageous State – government micromanaging businesses and people’s lives – so he is making any excuses for it to continue indefinitely.

    https://www.t*xresearch.org.uk/Blog/2021/04/06/what-will-happen-in-july/

    This is one to revisit in a few months time. The idea that we will get the same number of deaths in July/August when probably >80% of people will have been vaccinated and at the time of year when viruses are weakest is utterly bonkers even by his standards. It looks to me that he is cherrypicking the worst data from the Guardian (which is probably itself cherry picking the worst data).

  6. It is endemic throughout the world and at least partly seasonal. It cannot be eradicated.

    You knew, just knew, that he’d be a “Zero Covid” crank.

  7. ‘Begs the question. How many times has the world been through this before? Maybe diseases like this have been regular events. Just that nobody noticed before.’

    I’d agree BIS. People seem to have become much more fussy about what were simple childhood diseases or minor wogs when I was a kid. Of course they could have been just trying to make sure they didn’t terrify me.

  8. They maybe “minor wogs” to Aussies, Boganboy. You don’t have as many of them as the UK does. Or do we have a language dislocation here?

  9. “… his Courageous State – government micromanaging businesses and people’s lives ”

    Something that now has to beaten into cowardice & submission or you’ll never be free again. Not saying I think the craven Brits have the stomach for what it’d take.

  10. As my mate and I opine over the odd pint or three – we are the only UK generation never to have been lucky enough to experience war.
    Perhaps if we had, it would give us a different perspective towards both risk and death.

  11. ‘They maybe “minor wogs” to Aussies, Boganboy.’

    Well yes BIS. It’s no longer politically correct to call a minor disease a wog. I’m thinking of my childhood. Of course, since I’ve used the term ‘politically correct’, I presume that’s no longer fashionable either.

  12. Virus cant be eliminated. Freedom can be. Blojob Johnson and gang are working only on the latter.

    BiS–Sorry but yr entire 11.39 piece is utter tripe. It is a bad winter flu–not esp dangerous at all. What has to happen to get people believing that obvious truth. The bogus casedemic is exposed and now the sloppy way they have been doing their already shite tests should have given everyone pause.

  13. “Something that now has to beaten into cowardice & submission or you’ll never be free again.”

    Yes, it is not the virus that needs a zero-C policy but the political response to it.

    ” the illnesses just burnt out after a while, either from killing everyone or not finding new hosts.” Round up all the politicians, the ‘sages’, the nudge units, the ‘stay safe’ sheep, and burn them all.

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