So that thing about trans and sports and the Olympics

It’s a consistent insistence from the trans lot about sports and all that that trans people have been able to compete at the Olympics but none have. Well, not outside the East German team at least. And so, well, nyah! Physical males should run against girls in high school therefore.

Hmm:

History and controversy is expected to be made at the Tokyo Olympics this summer after the transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard was effectively guaranteed a place in the women’s super heavyweight category.

While the 43-year-old has not yet been named in the New Zealand team, an International Weightlifting Federation insider confirmed to the Guardian that she would automatically qualify because of amended rules approved by the International Olympic Committee.

Presumably in the superheavyweight category for women as it’s difficult to find a bloke small enough for the women’s flyweight etc.

25 thoughts on “So that thing about trans and sports and the Olympics”

  1. The Meissen Bison

    Under IOC guidelines issued in November 2015, athletes who transition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below 10 nanomoles per litre for at least 12 months…

    Wouldn’t it be tidier simply to abolish women?

  2. ‘Wouldn’t it be tidier simply to abolish women?’

    I suspect the trannies’d prefer to abolish men.

  3. @TMB Yes. The question that the trans nutters are overlooking is “Why do we have women’s sports in the first place?” Is it because women identify as being different from men and thus should have a separate category or is it because without a women’s category, women would never win anything?

    As Gavin Hubbard, Laurel Hubbard had a mediocre career as a weightlifter. Now she medalled in the World Championships in 2017 (silver) as a woman in her 40s, about a decade older than most competitors.

  4. “Now she he medalled in the World Championships in 2017 (silver) as a woman in her his 40s,”
    Please Ken. Accuracy.

  5. There could not be a better and potentially more widely covered example of this insanity. Bring it on and let’s see the bien pensants try to pretend it all ok.

  6. @BiS

    I am perfectly willing to call her by the pronoun she wishes to use. However, I don’t think she should be competing in a women’s competition.

    Taken to its logical conclusion, we should abolish all women’s sports and just have a mixed competition.

  7. Ken: It’s not the pronoun she wishes to use, it’s the pronoun she wishes you to use. The pronoun she uses in refererence to herself is “I” and “me”.

  8. ipso: Or just put everybody into the same category ranking. 40kg-50kg regardless of biology, 50kg-60kg regardless of biology, 60kg-70kg regardless of biology, etc.

  9. Ken. We don’t have a pronoun problem in Englsh. We don’t have a tu or vous, where which one uses is a mark of respect to the subject. The respect owing to a female impersonator is between zero & fuck all.

  10. To be fair, after hormone treatment and implants to grow a set of tits, plus having your bollocks cut off and your cock turned inside out, Im not sure that the subject would feel that much more competitive …

  11. The Olympics would improve no end if the men who lost were told they’d have their balls cut off and they’d have to compete as women next time.

  12. My guess is the trans supporters are going to put in competitors in some niche sports who do well but don’t win (say top 5) then point to them as an example of why all the people saying it’s unfair competition are wrong.
    Of course once you let them compete at everything and they start winning it will be too late to reverse the decision

  13. A common argument from the left is: “If trans women receive hormone therapy, they won’t have an advantage with muscle mass and upper body strength.”

    So…Should that now be the requirement for trans athletes? How is that a “fair” disadvantage, when using steroids is considered an “unfair” advantage? Or do you think maybe going by biological sex is a tad less intrusive?

    OR, you can just have your own brand of olympics ceremonies to make sure it’s a physiologically even match. Same thing was done for wrestling and boxing (via weight classes), the Paralympics and Special Olympics.

  14. Hubbard will, if selected, contest in the women’s +87kg category – in which she is currently ranked 16th in the world.

    So, not so much competing as participating….

  15. The Pedant-General

    “Or just put everybody into the same category ranking. 40kg-50kg regardless of biology, 50kg-60kg regardless of biology, 60kg-70kg regardless of biology, etc.”

    That wouldn’t work either – I’m guessing a 60kg biological male will trounce a 60kg biological female.

    There is no particular weight advantage in marathon running, yet the biological female world record holder would barely qualify for the olympics against biological males.

  16. The Pedant-General

    Also (and Im not picking on you in particular jgh!)

    “: It’s not the pronoun she wishes to use, it’s the pronoun she wishes you to use. The pronoun she uses in refererence to herself is “I” and “me”.”

    It’s not even that – it’s the pronoun you use to refer to it when it is not there.

  17. @ The Pedant-General
    Since the normal female has a higher proportion of her body mass comprising fat than the normal male it would remain unfair to genuine females to compete with males of exactly the same weight. Any fair competition would have different weight limits for women “lightweights” or “featherweights” than men “lightweights” or “featherweights”.
    There is also a different “target area” for female boxers than for male boxers.

  18. Bloke in North Korea (Germany province)

    “Open” and “assigned female at birth” should cover it.

  19. ‘The Olympics would improve no end if the men who lost were told they’d have their balls cut off and they’d have to compete as women next time.’

    At least it’d get rid of men’s Olympics. The blokes wouldn’t have the balls for it.

  20. Amazing to see all the trans activists saying that Caitlyn Jenner “knows fuck all” about trans issues in sport, merely because she had the temerity to say that trans women don’t belong in women’s sport.

    She oughta know, having won a gold medal in the Olympics as a man. But her view is no longer valid when she says the “wrong” thing, apparently. The Hubbard scandal is another case in point.

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