Oriel’s education standards just went up

More than 150 Oxford dons are boycotting Oriel College and refusing to teach its students in protest at its decision to keep the Cecil Rhodes statue, The Telegraph can reveal.

We can guess which faculties these are from, right? Yes, the ones that subtract from education levels…..

14 thoughts on “Oriel’s education standards just went up”

  1. “We can guess which faculties these are from, right?”
    I thought to look at the Wiki entry to see what’s taught at Oriel. It would seem to be information of such trivial importance it’s not mentioned.

  2. To add to Julia’s comment, these over educated (but under intelligent) tossers are employed to do a job. If they refuse to do that job, sack ’em. I am sure there are enough retired, or still working, teachers who would love the opportunity to inform and educate tunnel visioned, politically naive, students. Remove the statue? Then stop Rhodes scholarships.

  3. Bis, you can look up the teaching staff based at Oriel and see their specialisms but that won’t help you much.
    https://www.oriel.ox.ac.uk/people/fellows-academic-staff

    You need to know which colleges, if any, the protesting teachers are attached to. A college is basically a hall of residence for teachers and students. The teachers teach across the whole university. The students go to whichever teacher can deliver the courses they want

  4. This will primarily apply to tutorials*. Imagine that within English literature, there are courses in Victorian novels and in Shakespeare, and the tutor specialising in the former is at Oriel and the latter is at Merton. They might arrange to teach each others students in tutorials. It sounds like some lecturers are saying they will not participate in these swaps of specialisms. It will complicate the process of finding tutors for some subjects.

    *An undergraduate attends lectures on a topic with all the people on the course (between 20 and a 100 say) for a term, but also attends small group tutorials (between one and five students), where each week they write essays on the topic being discussed.

  5. Penseivat, the statue is at Oriel and has nothing to do with the Rhodes Scholarships. Rhodes donated money to his college and in recognition of this, they put up a statue.

  6. I’ve got two kids currently at Oxford; neither of them give a shit about any of this woke bollocks, and neither do most of their friends. They’re all surprisingly sound – I mean, not by the standards of this blog, but they’re 19-21 and definitely leaning in the right direction. Unfortunately, as ever, it’s the small and vociferous minority who are prepared to stand for elections and sit on the committees and man the protests who get what they want. Later on in their lives we reward them with jobs in government and charities etc.

  7. It does make you wonder how many of the 150 give tutorials and, if they do, how many are given to Oriel students. In other words, how many of them are involved with undergraduate studies.

  8. When Trinity Cambridge decided to leave USS, the Universities’ pension scheme, excitable radicals swore that they’d stop teaching for Trinity. Maybe they did, but if so it can’t have had much effect because none of my former colleagues ever mentioned it.

  9. 150 tutors sounds like a massive part of an educational establishment but is actually a tiny percentage – I counted 67 Fellows of my old college when I grabbed a magazine for alumni and there are (excluding All Souls and Reuben) 42 colleges so 150 would be about 1 in 19 if they were all Fellows. Except that they probably are not – one out of three of my Maths tutors was not a fellow because he wasn’t good enough so maybe these are 1 in 30 of dons.
    A tiny percentage of shouty children making a big fuss

  10. @ dearieme
    Trinity does have Arts students (such as my wife) but it majors on Maths and Science, so it probably didn’t notice the tantrum by radicals.

  11. John77’s numbers are in the right ball park. It’s likely that some of the 150 don’t actually do undergraduate tutorials. It may have an impact on a few unfortunate Oriel students – I’ve heard that some of the esoteric courses (e.g. Oriental studies) have tutorial courses that are taught one-on-one with someone opting to take them once every couple of years. If there’s an Oriel student who wanted to take a rare course with a signatory don, it’s possible there may be no alternative tutor. What the boycott may do, is complicate the lives of Oriel tutors as they look for alternative tutors. It would be a minor irritant in most cases. Amusingly, it will be just as disruptive for some of the dons who sign up and are involved with tutoring students from Oriel, since many of the tutorials are “swaps”: “I’ll teach your students Shakespeare in return you’ll teach mine Victorian novels.”

    I see that Danny Dorling is a signatory from the latest reports, so our host is quite right, it will raise standards.

  12. Would Danny Dorling teach Oriel undergrads? I did a smallish subject at a smallish college and never once had a professor from outside college for a tutorial. For first/second year students in large subjects, you might share more junior members of faculty. But those are ten a penny and easily replaceable.

    This is – and I don’t want to shock you here – mere posturing from a bunch of pussies who seem to think the statue is a Weeping Angel.

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