The ‘will it, wont it’ debate on whether this variant will spread like wildfire is over now: the evidence that it is growing exponentially is now there. The sooner we don’t just abandon the June 21 relaxations but put other restrictions back in place the better off we will all be.

At least that’s a firm prediction that can be referred to in future.

And, most especially, we are going to need to realise that government and what it supplies is going to cost more.

You knew there was going to be a demand for MOAR TAX didn’t you?

26 thoughts on “Unh huhn”

  1. And, most especially, we are going to need to realise that government and what it supplies is going to cost more.

    So what? Print what you need.

  2. It was said early on that one good thing about COVID was that journalists would no longer use ‘exponentially’ to mean ‘a lot.’ Apparently this does not apply to fat ignorant fuckers from Ely.

  3. Bloke in North Dorset

    The 7-day average for hospital admissions in the North West, ground zero of the India variant, has gone from a minimum of 13 on 27 April to 23 on 29 May, it hasn’t even doubled yet.

    The 7-day average for patients in hospital in the North West has gone from 150 on 15 May to 178 on 30 May.

    And as the CEO of the NHS group pointed out, these are younger people who aren’t as sick and need much less care. They also have shorter stays.

    Who gives a shit about cases now? The whole point was to “protect the NHS and save lives”.

    So what does the Emergency Department Syndromic Surveillance System say about COVID-19 emergency admissions?

    “No Trend” that means they are flat

    Acute Respiratory infections are up though, this is probably down to the increase in parainfluenza which is above usual winter levels

    Finally, patients in hospital is still below SAGE’s best case “scenario” for the unlocking timetable:

    https://data.spectator.co.uk/city/national

  4. They’re dying like flies in Florida, preferred place for the retired affluent middle classes. No lockdown no masks no vaccine mandate. What??? Their numbers have plummeted! But but the science….

  5. I’m afraid we’re living in a World where objective reality has ceased to hold any currency. Mere facts won’t alter this. I think it might take vaccinated children dying to shift the needle at all. And even then it’ll probably be dismissed as necessary collateral damage, or just a coincidence.

  6. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    So Murphy doubles down on stupid. What’s new?

    Like so many US liberals, he’s all for science when it aligns with his personal prejudices… When it doesn’t he simply carries on as if nothing has changed. And like so many US liberals, what he’s revealed is that for him, lockdowns aren’t a regrettable, temporary measure, they’re his vision of what both the present and future should be.

  7. As far as I can see the only thing we are getting supplied more of from government is coercion. And we are supposed to pay even more for that!?

  8. Man seeks job (or, preferably, a grant):

    The International Financial Reporting Standards Foundation Eminent Persons Group on sustainability includes no one who appears to know anything about sustainability

    I know the new board is advising on sustainability reporting, but surely someone who knew something about sustainability might have been of use on there? Or is this not really about sustainability at all?

  9. Dennis, Climate-Change Denying Fruitcake

    I know the new board is advising on sustainability reporting, but surely someone who knew something about sustainability might have been of use on there? Or is this not really about sustainability at all?

    Interesting. Fat accountants who can’t keep a job or a wife qualify as experts in sustainability.

    Who knew?

  10. The thing that isn’t being asked is: “How the ruddy hell could that Indian variant end up in the UK anyway?!!”

    Seriously.. you don’t even need any experience or training in epidemiology or anything remotely relevant to equate India with “time-bomb waiting to happen”.
    Between the sheer amount of people and the circumstances they live in it’s a bloody miracle this hasn’t happened bef…. oh wait.. What was the ancestry of the “UK” variant again?

    And somehow personal travel to and from that subcontinent + neighbours hasn’t been shut down or allowed under only the strictest enforced quarantine measures for how long?
    Riiiight….

  11. @BiND, and those younger people who have been admitted – how many are in hospital because they think it’s terminal when at any other time with the same level of symptoms for flu they’d take a week off work and stay in bed.

  12. That’s the most monstrous, as well as arrogant post from him that I have ever seen – and that’s really saying something. Hopefully it guarantees against a return to lockdown pretty comprehensively though!

  13. Dennis

    I think re-reading it for a second time you have it 100% correct. This is his vision of the new normal. Given lockdown is arguably the greatest imposition ever put on the average citizen in the UK (At least in the modern era – I’m told restrictions were greater for the Black Death) it’s little wonder someone as deranged as Murphy sees them as a new way of life.

  14. If the powers thst be really cared about reducing covid fatalities they would be advocating for mass prophylaxis with HCQ and/or Invermectin.

    The fact that they have in fact made it hugely difficult if not impossible for doctors to treat patients with HCQ or invermectin shows thst they have other objectives.

    E.g. vaccine passports, and if you’re really black piiled, depopulation.

  15. One does note, Flubber, that the Chinese are now permitting people to have three children. Not just one or even two. Shows what happens when you actually take the arguments of the ratbags—–oops experts seriously.

    But one could argue that, in the West, they simply wish to get rid of the evil white dreck and replace them with beautiful blacks or marvellous Mahometans.

  16. It’s a fundamental part of infectious-disease-ology that infectiveness and lethality are opposites. The more infectious a disease is the less lethal it has to be – if it wasn’t less lethal it would kill off its hosts quickly, and by defintion become less infectious – because it’s killed off the method by which it infects, its hosts. A highly lethal disease *can’t* be highly infectious as it kills off its host before it can manage to infect another host. A highly infectious disease *can’t* be highly lethal as it needs to be non-lethal in order to be infectious. The Common Cold is as infectious as a bad jingle, how many people die from the Common Cold?

    A “highly infection” India Woo Flu is *less* of a threat than the Woolan Bat Flu.

  17. @ Boganboy
    So how many Chinese have died if they want to increase the population? Not 0.0003% as they claim

  18. He loves lockdown. He’s just annoyed he isn’t the one giving the orders. He wants restrictions in place as long as possible so the economy crashes and the government falls. He must still think he’s in with a chance if labour get back in (although there is currently no evidence Starmer is interested in someone Corbyn and McDonnell thought was batshit crazy)

  19. Bloke in North Dorset

    @ SadButMadLad

    From the comments I’ve sen from doctors involved not very many. They really, really, don’t want more infectious patients than they have to.

  20. Bloke in North Dorset

    This is from a Paediatric Registrar and Clinical Research Fellow Paediatric Infectious diseases:

    We are now doing extended respiratory virus panels in our children’s emergency department

    Over the weekend I saw a handful of kids with the other common cold coronaviruses and a truck load of parainfluenza

    But not a single case of #COVID19

    Absolutely remarkable

    It won’t stop the bedwetters claiming that more children are being admitted and therefore we need to lockdown and go for zero Covid.

  21. Sorry John77. I was thinking of the ‘experts’ who sold them on the population bomb. Back in the 70’s I believe.

    As Tim has frequently pointed out, industrialisation reduces the population. You don’t need as many kids as a peasant does to do the junk work around a farm.

  22. So how many Chinese have died if they want to increase the population? Funnily enough, the latest Chinese census showed an ‘unexpected’ decline in the population.

  23. “Funnily enough, the latest Chinese census showed an ‘unexpected’ decline in the population.”

    Link?

  24. Ducky McDuckface

    Jim, try the South China Morning Post.
    It’s not so much that the decline was unexpected, more that the CCP admitted to it.

  25. “It’s not so much that the decline was unexpected, more that the CCP admitted to it.”

    Have they admitted to it? All the links I can find state that the figures released in late April showed a slight increase in population through 2020. Admittedly there were reports prior to the official release speculating that the figures would show the first ever population drop, so one has to wonder if the figures were manipulated into a slight rise to save face.

  26. Ducky McDuckface

    Ah, Jim, I think I see the issue.

    You’re talking about Population, the actual number of people.

    I’m talking about TFR, the replacement rate for those people.

    The SCMP noted that TFR had fallen, and, going from memory, there’s a specific region in the north-west, where population has fallen, and the TFR has dropped to 1.3, I think.

    That region is pretty inhospitable, not a nice place to live – worse than Manchester – and a great many people have left for the special economic zones further south, so both TFR and Population has fallen there.

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