Just a thought here

Asbestos, mesothelioma, legal responsibility, damages – yes, fine. And yet:

Leigh Day are also acting for the family of another member of the orchestra, violinist Edwin Dodd, who died aged 89 of mesothelioma in January.

What damages are due for the death of an 89 year old?

No, not to belittle or anything but the damages are, presumably, some compensation for the life missed…..

17 thoughts on “Just a thought here”

  1. Surreptitious Evil

    Leigh Day are “interesting”. They make the P^3 look both sensible and articulate. And Joly-on the Kimonoed Fox-Batterer of New London Town look like the epitome of ethical legal practice. JMNSHO-YMMV.

  2. Wasn’t Leigh Day one of the vehicles for the activities of the much-admired Mr Phil Shiner, who managed to locate many Iraqi ‘civilians’ who were tragically injured by members of the British forces?

    And wasn’t Mr Shiner subsequently made bankrupt, just moments after all of his assets were transferred to his daughter….

    Or am I thinking of someone else entirely?

  3. “I’m proud that Dad worked for the BBC for so long,” (his son) said. “They gave him a fantastic career.” And a fatal disease.
    The BBC can do no wrong.

  4. Given he lasted about 8 years over average life expectancy for men in the UK, perhaps his estate should be paying the BBC for helping him to attain these extra years?

  5. Just wondering where the dust came from – were they continually kicking lumps out of the studio? Cabling work?

  6. @ Ducky McDuckface
    Until he was middle-aged, at least, all theatres and cinemas were required to have an asbestos fire curtain separating the audience from the actors/screen.

  7. john77
    Were the fire curtains made from blue of brown asbestos? My understanding is that white asbestos is a different chemical posing very limited heath risks, but I may misremember.

  8. Interesting. Since I’m sitting in a room with asbestos ceiling and walls, I presumably have another 15 years to go.

  9. @John77, well yes, but the article and quotes are about studio(s), as opposed to venues with audiences.

  10. Given that he made it to 89, he could have expected on average another 4 years or so? But presumably an aspect of the compensation will be for suffering. A lawyer may be able to say something more useful here.

  11. “A lawyer may be able to say something more useful here.”

    Such as ‘I’m committing hari-kari in order to improve society’?

  12. philip: yes, white asbestos is almost harmless. The thing to do with – for example – a garage roof made of white asbestos cement is just to leave it in place. There’s two problems: sometimes mixtures of the different forms were used, and sometimes asbestos discolours in use, so you can’t tell which is which just by looking. A microscope resolves the problem though.

    This means that firms making a good living by removing white asbestos from buildings are prospering off a government-introduced scam. Christopher Booker used to write about this at length. Whether corruption was involved or mere incompetence I don’t know.

  13. “What damages are due for the death of an 89 year old?”

    A solicitor friend used to have this all the time.

    “I’m not after compensation, it’s the principle of the thing. They should have looked after Mum better. Money doesn’t come into it.”

    “OK. That’s just as well- because the compensation payable for the death of an 89-year-old would be tiny.”


    Perhaps it’s best not to harp on it. Maybe we should let sleeping dogs lie…”

  14. A lawyer may be able to say something more useful here.

    Whatever happened to Edward Lud? Haven’t seen him here for a good long while.

  15. @ philip
    All three forma of asbestos could lead to mesothelioma but blue was the worst (finer fibres), white less bad.
    It’s forty-odd years since I had to look at it so I only remember snippets such as the first guy to die of asbestosis was the boss (co-owner) of Johns Manville the largest asbestos company in the world, that Cape Asbestos was sued by the US government anti-trust team for refusing to export asbestos to the USA when they would have been sued for supplying raw material that could be turned by US companies into products damaging to health if they had exported to the USA – a Catch 22 situation – and when Turner & Newall started to replace asbestos with glass fibres in various products they discovered that inhaling glass fibres caused lung disease similar to mesothelioma.
    Asbestos used in brakes and fire protection saved many multiples of the lives lost as a result of its use. Corrugated roofs made of asbestos cement were just cheaper, not better.
    As to your question – I just don’t know, but I should expect most of them to have been brown or white as blue was significantly more expensive.

  16. @ Ducky McDuckface
    Except the photograph of him outside the Albert Hall.
    But you do have a point – the BBC seems to have been psychopaths according to the article by importing asbestos dust from smashing up asbestos cement on demolition sites to pollute their studios. Asbestos only amounts to about 10% of asbestos cement so for wear of the ceiling to *riddle* a studio with asbestos dust is impossible.

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