So they’re adding the national to the socialism bit are they?

Labour has announced a new post-Brexit economic vision for the UK involving ambitious plans to “make, sell and buy more in Britain” as it seeks to build a strongly patriotic policy platform with which to take on the Tories.

19 thoughts on “So they’re adding the national to the socialism bit are they?”

  1. How will this go down with the multiple cultures and nationalities to whom they wish to pander?

  2. The irony is that the Left are right, the current government is fascist, in that it is effectively practising a form of national socialism, controlling the economy on a micro scale and oppressing the people while maintaining a public face of nationalism, the only problem is that most of the things the Left want to do would make it even more so.

  3. It used to style itself Britain’s Democratic Social party when, post-war, it was in the throes of vandalising the British economy and society.

    Isn’t autarky part of Socialism, everyone in the Collective working for the Collective as decided by the Collective to provide the needs of the Collective and receive as decided by the Collective…and thereby full-time employment for all?

    Sounds a bit like National Socialism, or Fascism but aren’t they horses from the same stable; a distinction without a difference?

  4. Under the plan – one of the boldest since Starmer became leader – every public body in the country would be told to award more contracts to British firms, underpinned by a new law that would require public organisations to give details of how much they are buying from UK firms, large and small.

    Eh, so much for national socialism and/or boldness.

    Because we’ll find that the vast, overwhelming, yuge majority of public sector procurements are already awarded to British firms. It’s not French or Chinese companies providing cleaners, telephones, or vending machines to the local council. Well publicised exceptions are not the rule.

    Even when they’re buying digital services from global tech oligarchs, it’s usually the UK subsidiary of Microsoft, Amazon or Google that books the business given practical considerations such as currency and VAT.

    So this is the perfect Labour pledge, because it’ll amount to absolutely fuck all difference in the real world, but might confuse idiots into thinking maybe Keir Starmer doesn’t thoroughly despise them.

  5. A sop to patriotism without understanding it or approving of it. The last refuge? According to Sam but applying to Boris as well as Kier Smarmer.

  6. “every public body in the country would be told to award more contracts to British firms”

    I would have thought all our public bodies are already awarding most contracts locally – to the cousin of the ‘Chief Executive’ or a councillor’s wife’s brother.

    Still, I expect it will involve a new department for every public body in the country, so more jobs for the boys(and girls). It would be unrealistic to hope that the same department that checks if contractors comply with diversity rules or the one that checks environmental compliance could also do a quick check that the firms are British.

  7. Former Labour votes have been telling the Labour Party this for decades – we want a workers’ party that protects us from foreign competition and promotes our interests above others, keep ignoring our wants and we’ll vote for other people who /do/ offer that programme. It’s amazing it’s taken this long to get the party hierarchy to realise this instead of actively telling those former supporters to piss off.

  8. Theophrastus (2066)

    Rhoda

    Boswell records that on April 7th 1775 Dr Johnson said:

    “Patriotism having become one of our topicks, Johnson suddenly uttered, in a strong determined tone, an apophthegm, at which many will start: ‘Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.’ But let it be considered, that he did not mean a real and generous love of our country, but that pretended patriotism which so many, in all ages and countries, have made a cloak for self-interest.”

    Johnson was not denouncing patriotism, but scoundrels who hide behind apparent patriotism.

  9. Sir Kneel Starmer is rather pathetic. Which, by Labour standards, is not too bad.

    Anyhoo, what will he do with himself when they sack him?

  10. Steve,

    “Even when they’re buying digital services from global tech oligarchs, it’s usually the UK subsidiary of Microsoft, Amazon or Google that books the business given practical considerations such as currency and VAT.”

    And most of that amounts to sod all. You can buy Office 365 for £5/month/employee, even before you negotiate bulk discounts. The hosting costs of a council website on AWS or Azure is less than what is spent on tranny orientation. It’s the other shit that costs so much money – hiring companies to build specific software. £90m written off from Universal Credit. Most of that goes on UK-based software people and the army of UK bureaucrats that do all the slavery/diversity/whatever forms for the projects.

  11. Dennis, Oops... The Spurs' Latest Ex-Manager

    How long will the whole patriotism thing last? Maybe 15 minutes.

    Labour’s hate of Britain will overwhelm any attempts at marketing something other than hate of Britain.

  12. Good job we left EU so Labour could follow this policy, I’m sure Starmer will be expressing his deep support for Leave and how he really backed it all along.
    Almost as sure that the spineless media will ask him about that

  13. It’ll never last, the Islington Marxists who actually run the party through the NEC will never allow it, since they hate the UK and all its trappings and emblems far more than they hate “Johnny Foreigner”…unless said foreigner happens to be Israeli or American of course.

    Sir Keir “take any knee” Starmer knows full well that alienating the British working class has undermined the foundations of the party and the whole structure is unbalanced, crooked and partially collapsing. He knows full well that the only road back to power is to purge the Marxists controlling the NEC so that the party can move back to being centre-left rather than it’s current hard-left position.

    For all his windbaggery, Neil Kinnock knew what needed to be done and did it when he purged Militant. Can’t see anyone in the front ranks of the Labour Party prepared to do the same with Momentum and their chums. Like the Liberals though, it will take a long time for Labour to fully collapse into irrelevance. They’ll never hold power in their own right again.

  14. From the article: “This would be tied in with an emphasis on securing more high-skilled UK jobs for the future in the green, financial technology, digital media and film sectors, and other industries in this country.”

    Still pandering to their echo room…
    “off the top of your head, which sectors drive an economy?” … All of the obvious are in “oh , yeah, …. the other bits” in that answer..

  15. John Galt,

    “For all his windbaggery, Neil Kinnock knew what needed to be done and did it when he purged Militant. Can’t see anyone in the front ranks of the Labour Party prepared to do the same with Momentum and their chums. Like the Liberals though, it will take a long time for Labour to fully collapse into irrelevance. They’ll never hold power in their own right again.”

    The Momentum wing is too big. In Kinnock’s time you still had lots of industrial workers in unions, or people who had come into Labour via that route. The sort of people who would have condemned a politician meeting the IRA soon after they tried to kill a prime minister. These were the people who were still there in the 1990s and voted for Blair to be leader as a pragmatic option.

    I think we might see Reform take the right flank in politics and the Conservatives drift left. The one nation wankers are pretty much Blairites anyway.

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