Well, quite, very important

People should consider not rinsing plates before putting them in the dishwasher to limit the impact on the environment, Boris Johnson’s COP26 spokeswoman has suggested.

After all, need to use all that hot water- or rather that limited amount you’ll be allowed to have – to wash out the jam pots before recycling them.

25 thoughts on “Well, quite, very important”

  1. Bloke in North Dorset

    Ms Stratton calls the moves “micro-steps” which Britons may wish to adopt to do their part to be more environmentally friendly, some of which many households have already adopted.

    And if we don’t they now know that there’s an appetite for authoritarian legislation so we’ll be forced to anyway.

    How much are we paying for this type of nannying:

    “Does your brand of plastic bottle shower gel come as a bar in cardboard packaging? I bet it does. It might be freezing half a loaf of bread when you get it home, to get out later in the week, rather than throwing half of it away when it goes mouldy.

    “It could be walking to the shops, not driving. Micro-steps maybe, but all the more achievable because of it. Ahead of COP26, choose one thing: go One Step Greener.”

    Paging Steve the Lion … Paging Steve the Lion, please report to Downing Street your services are needed.

  2. Your smart meter will allow you sufficient gas or electricity to boil enough untreated water for your household to the last the day.

  3. The Meissen Bison

    Ms Stratton, a former journalist, had been due to host the live televised Downing Street briefings before they were cancelled and is now Mr Johnson’s spokesman for COP26.

    So this is just a displacement activity and consolation prize. Amusingly it tells us more about her rather than how we should regulate our own lives.

    Wasn’t there a Tory minister years ago who lectured us about not letting the cold tap run while brushing our teeth? He was met with a backlash from people who questioned the kind of wasteful idiot that would do such a stupid thing.

  4. What the hell does “plastic bottle shower gel come as a bar in cardboard packaging” actually mean ?

    When I worked in Senegal, NSOA, the local soap factory, extruded low quality soap, cut into 3 foot long bars with a 2″ x 2″ cross section. This was used by the locals to wash their body, their hair, their dishes, and their clothes. Is this what they are aiming for ?

  5. “Does your brand of plastic bottle shower gel come as a bar in cardboard packaging?”
    In a sense.
    Due to acquiring a fairly fierce allergy to detergents (thanx to the cvnt who scattered pool chlorodiser all over the villa pool house resulting in me burning the skin off my hands) for some time I was restricting to pure soap bars for personal hygiene & Chat Noir solid laundry soap for everything else. Problem with most liquids is there’s detergent in them as a wetting agent to make them liquid. So one can do it & it’s not even particularly problematic.
    But. Women. Regularly, I go round the bathrooms of this place emptying the shower stalls of the part used bottles of gel been left there by bints passing through. Most seem to contain “magic” ingredients. Aloa vera features strongly as do various fruits. But coffee?!?! There was even one small glass receptacle claimed to contain flakes of pure gold. I’ve now a cupboard half full of them. The efficaciousness of the products would seem to depend on the design of t5he containers they come in. Very tall, easy to knock over, convoluted shapes would seem to be particularly so. I’ve tried recycling them – using them to replace what was in the shower has run out – but they’re ignored & yet another one appears.
    So my take on this is it would be somewhat similar to Cnut on the beach ordering the tide not to come in. It’d be defying a fundamental law of nature. Not going to happen.

  6. “Does your brand of plastic bottle shower gel come as a bar in cardboard packaging?”

    It’s called soap.

  7. Our council has stated that they only want rinsed bottles, jars and tin cans in the recycling bin. As I value my time and I have to pay for my water, I’m not prepared to spend time or money on rinsing so they are put in the general waste bin and end up in landfill.

  8. This is behavioural sickology again. Get people’s buy-in by telling them they can do their bit and it will make a difference. Well, it won’t. It’s BS. What about the concept that they, the council, the government, the quangoes, work for you?

    (I’ve been saving my old aluminium saucepans since 1940. I think I have enough to make a Spitfire..)

  9. How very middle class

    Maybe they should get rid of the dishwasher?

    As far as I can see they turn a five or ten minute moderately tedious manual operation into a 60 minute epic complete with flashing lights and you still need to load/unload.

    Net time saving:zero
    Energy cost saving:zero (hot washing up water from my boiler is cheaper and quicker)
    Climate scam brownie points:minus several million
    Opportunities for virtue signalling:many

  10. Dishwashers are simply easier, as well as being cheaper (because they use less water).

    He’s absolutely right that you shouldn’t be prerinsing your dishes for the dishwasher, not to save the planet but because that’s the dishwasher’s job. No wonder the dishwasher doesn’t seem to save that much work if you’re doing all its work for it.

    It’s easy as pie to use a dishwasher:
    – run the sink for the big pans, baking trays, expensive crystal, etc.
    – slap everything dishwasher-safe in the dishwasher, pausing only to wipe actual chunks of food into the bin
    – when everything that goes in the dishwasher is in the dishwasher, use any free space for pans
    – wash your hands in the sink, and put the dishwasher on
    – do the delicates in the sink
    – do the pans in the sink
    – done

    You can load a dishwasher in two minutes, add another two to wash some pans, and that’s you done in four.

  11. Piss on all eco-freaks. They have already made our lives worse with washing up liquid that doesn’t work -talking big name brands not shite like “Eco” or “Ego” as it should better be known.And many other scams.

    Whatever any middle class Marxist greenfreak stooge of Johnson suggests–do the opposite.

  12. It is far more efficient to have our cleaner load and empty the dishwasher than have her hand wash the dishes, it leaves her free to clean the windows.

  13. As Prof David MacKay (pbuh) said: “If we all do a little, we’ll achieve a little.” Anyone who was half-serious about the Climate Emergency™ should be demanding we build nukes. Lots of them. But, unaccountably, they ain’t.

  14. As a single man my ambition is to run a 2 dishwasher kitchen. Fill No 1 with dirty plates etc as you use them, run when full. Then use the clean items directly out of No 1 and place into No 2 after use. When No 2 is full wash everything and start the process in reverse. No need to have drawers and cupboards full of clean stuff, and be constantly emptying the dishwasher of clean items. An endless and labour free loop of crockery use, cleaning and storage.

  15. Jim,

    To be completely efficient you need three. You don’t want 1 to empty completely or else you’ll have a time gap between 1 emptying and 2 completing the wash cycle. Bear in mind also you might run out of some things in 1 earlier than others.

    Hence, you have roughly 1.5 times stuff that you need. When 2 is full, get it going. Carry on using left over stuff from 1 (and 2 when complete) and they go into 3. By the time 3 is full, 1 will be empty, 2 will be half empty, you’ll never have run out of anything, rinse and repeat (sorry, wash and repeat)….

  16. @PF: 3 is probably the optimum if you have a partner and/or a family, too much random stuff will get introduced into the loop for just 2 machines. But as a single man my crockery/cutlery needs are pretty stable, all my ‘cooking’ revolves around the microwave. So its just a set number of plates, bowls, knives forks etc. 2 would be perfect for me.

  17. I use that method but with a sink. Take clean plate from drainer, ping-shimasu, wash remains off plate, put back onto drainer. I manage fine with just two plates/bowls/forks/etc.

  18. The Meissen Bison

    Jim – how would the canine pre-wash cycle work in your system? If you have the right sort of dogs (ie labradors) the pre-wash leaves the crockery nearly pristine so one machine ought to be enough as long as you have somewhere to store the pre-washed items until your single machine is empty.

    Also, show a bit of gratitude: ditch the microwave in favour of an aga. What dog worth its salt snuggles down in front of a microwave?

  19. @Jim
    As recommended by Matthew Parris, you can buy half-width dishwashers, so can fit two (albeit small capacity) in the space occupied by a normal size unit.

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