Elite Model Management’s founder, the late John Casablancas, has also been accused of repeatedly engaging in abusive and exploitative sexual conduct, announcing, for example, that he was dating a 16-year-old model.
Yes, rape happens and it shouldn’t. Find those who do and the no key treatment and the like. Yes, abuse of power, shouldn’t happen and all that.
However. We also have those laws running the other way. The age of consent is exactly that, the age at which we, as a society, say that someone is old enough to decide for themselves who they bump uglies with. 16 is also old enough to decide upon an abortion, there are those who insist that’s old enough to vote.
So, why is it taken as absolute proof that a 16 year old bumping uglies is abuse?
Prostitution is only legal from age 18. As a 16 year old, she wasn’t allowed to charge.
The position of trust and power thing? But that makes it more transactional doesn’t it. At least in some cases.
“Suck this and you’ll get a better job” is more like a transaction as I see it (one that abuses the shareholders’ money of course), whereas “suck this or you’ll get a lower grade than you deserve” would be abuse, even rape rape.
Where does that leave “stick this needle in your arm or you’re banned from restaurants, trains, etc”?
Dear Mr Worstall
Envy?
DP
If I was to claim that all human sexual relationships are transactional, how wrong wouuld I be?
Rhoda, if you qualify it with “consensual” perhaps. Or categorise theft as a transaction. I don’t suppose kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls get much out of the relationship.
@rhoda: Why limit it to sexual relationships?
If you let him rape you repeatedly, it isn’t rape.
My guess is that most if these cases are women who felt cheated. “come over here for some bouncy bouncy and I’ll get you good modelling jobs”. “yeah baby. It’s all in the pipeline with Chanel and maybe I could talk to Dior. Now close the blinds”..
Has his fun, stops calling her back. She’s a whore who didn’t get paid.
I think people are disgusted at a visceral / limbic brain level. “Old enough to be her father” recalls a primal incest taboo.
The lines “three decades later” hidden away towards the end of the article and “the deadline for filing claims under this act ends at midnight Friday” are noteworthy.
If you let him rape you repeatedly, it isn’t rape.
Not really. Think about a lass in an abusive relationship who allows the bloke to rape her to, for instance, protect her kids or avoid a beating.
Harry Haddock’s Ghost,
“Not really. Think about a lass in an abusive relationship who allows the bloke to rape her to, for instance, protect her kids or avoid a beating.”
Did this model have any kids? Was she going to face a beating for leaving and getting a bar job somewhere?
As I recollect it, in the perfect paleolithic paradise inhabited by the abos, the old men monopolised the tribes’ women. If the young blokes wanted one (or more) they had to steal them from the foreigners over the way. It was suggested that this woman stealing was the origin of the ‘prince charming’ fairy tale.
So it sounds like what the lady is complaining about is much closer to the human norm than our modern society, drenched as it is with female privilege. No doubt she is a staunch Green and would love to return to those good old days when people lived in harmony with their natural instincts.
“Suck this and you’ll get a better job”
I’d get it in writing first.
You’re right Boganboy. The change is likely the driver for ” Young people these days!” which has been going on since the first second generation. Older male resentment for younger males usurping their mating rights. Older female resentment because women will always find something to be resentful about. Resentment of the younger challenger was built into the mating model
OK, so memory isn’t what it used to be and decades of monogamy might have blurred it around the edges. But OK, the erotic pleasures of young flesh and nubility and all that. But BJ’s are a part of all that where the nubility etc doesn’t matter so much and experience does. Not saying I’d go quite as far as to insist upon a gum job, but logic would seem to indicate that it’s not the young ones one seeks that pleasure from….
Or am I mis-remembering?
Tim, as I understand it, a large number of wives, in addition to shagging privileges, meant that when the white haired old bastard missed whacking the wallaby, the girls had still scooped up some nice juicy witchetty grubs or something. After all, the abos were hunters and gatherers, not just hunters.
The younger girls would be kept well under the thumbs of the older women, who were quite up to providing any BJ’s the old bugger wanted. So as you can see, the servant problem was solved in the good old days as well.
Maybe because Orange Man Bad:
” The annual Look of the Year events (later Elite Model Look), at which young women could win a $150,000 modeling contract with Elite, were later criticised by The Guardian newspaper for providing an opportunity for Casablancas and other judges such as David Copperfield and Donald Trump to proposition contestants.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Casablancas
@Tim. I think you may be neglecting the slap & Victoria’s Secrets factor. In our world, mutton can be served as a fair simulacrum of lamb. So the question has to be, not whether the services were proficient but whether they were desirable? S’pose Ugg could have just closed his eyes & fantasised. But that neglects the prominence of the hefty club in the hierarchical selection procedures.
“Not saying I’d go quite as far as to insist upon a gum job, ”
Roman pimps would sometimes remove the teeth or even the tongues of their slaves.
As for the initial issue, the ickiness rule is that the younger partner should be no less than half the older partners age plus seven.
Sounds like the “Wives Union” just wants to keep their rates high for their shitty, outdated and excess mileage product.
Maybe the Islamic types have the right idea. When the current wife starts getting a bit naggy and saggy, trade her in for a new model.
Recall a long time ago reading something along the lines that older women would be quite happy to let someone else take over the physical element but were afraid of the influence that the other women would then hold over the male so as a result prostitution was the compromise which women have tolerated for long enough for it to be called the second oldest profession.
In Islam you don’t need to trade in an old wife. You’re allowed more than one.
The old one had the higher social position generally, certainly if there were kids.