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Well, OK, And?

Black, Pakistani, Bangladeshi people, whose very presence in Britain is inextricable from our colonial past, still live in the most deprived areas, in crowded housing, in places with the worst air pollution, subject to a range of toxic conditions that have huge impacts on health outcomes.

Large scale migration into Britain is a pretty new thing. A siubstantial portion of that BAME population is first genreation.

OK, so which society has ever had first generation migrants at the top of the socio-economic pile. Other than those which have been invaded that is? For we do have that example of the Normans in our own history.

So, the discovery that first generation migrants are not top of the socio-economic tree is a surprise to whom?

16 thoughts on “Well, OK, And?”

  1. First generation immigrants from France or Germany seem to land in nice parts of London. If you select for high-income immigrants, you’ll get people at (or near) the top of the pile.

  2. Come off it , Tim

    You know full well these articles are to blame whitey by lying, misrepresenting, and omission.

    You shouldn’t expect such unethical swine to examine reality before spouting their toxic merde.

    Oooo I’m beginning g to sound like a pale echo of Ecksie….

  3. Funny how it’s black, Pakistani and Bangladeshi people they mention. Not the Indians and Chinese who tend to live in quite nice areas.

    But there’s more to it than Tim’s comment on first-generation immigrants being poor. They stay poor because of “sending money home”. They stay poor because they bring with them family sizes that are suitable for a peasant life in a third-world backwater lacking in sanitation or medical provision and not for an urban life where space is expensive.

    One also has to ask how much of the air pollution in immigrant areas is due to choices made by the inhabitants. For example burning tyres is cheaper than disposing of them legally but the powers that be won’t intervene unless it’s wypipo doing it. More mundanely, nitrous oxides from badly-maintained boilers and badly-maintained cars is going to be largely a local issue.

  4. Immigrants from third world shithole countries turn civilised countries into carbon copies of third world shithole countries.

    Who’d a thunk it?

  5. I tend to phrase it as “Black, Pakistani, Bangladeshi people don’t pull their weight economically”. It’s logically the same statement of course but without the schmaltz and grievance.

  6. whose very presence in Britain is inextricable from our colonial past

    Whaddayamean “our”, Paleface? My ancestors were every character played by Tony Robinson in Blackadder.

    Large scale migration into Britain is a pretty new thing

    So are suicide bombers, rape gangs, and drive-by shootings.

    Wait a minute…

    Racial bias is automated into medical technologies

    It’s unfortunate all those black scientists you see on TV couldn’t invent better, non-racist medical technologies.

    uptake rates for the Covid vaccination were lowest among ethnic minorities. […] Low uptake was also found to be rooted in social and political factors, from long years of structural and institutional racism and discrimination

    My main reasons for not getting the jab are (1) I don’t want to; and (2) FUCK YOU. LIONS. But I suppose turning down a free vaccine because you don’t trust wypipo works too.

    Black people are four times as likely to come into psychiatric services under the mental health act

    Nibbas be crazy, and it’s all YOUR FAULT Diane Abbott’s expensively educated son tried to eat a policeman.

    Btw how lol is it for dusky foreigners to move to Britain, live off the fat of the taxpayer, and simultaneously cry about “colonialism”? Mibbe self-awareness, much like everything else including snowmen, Tuesdays and the M62, is racist.

  7. Living as a poor person in the first world is preferable to living as a poor person in the third world.

    They may be comparatively poor here, but, measured against their likely economic situation in their countries of origin, they are living the high life.

  8. Black, Pakistani, Bangladeshi people, whose very presence in Britain is inextricable from our colonial past

    Bollo*ks. They didn’t arrive in significant numbers until well after WW2.

    … black and brown people are medically assessed using clinical and diagnostic tools developed largely without their involvement in medical studies.

    But Race is just a social construct and has no biological basis right?

  9. A reasonable compromise is that anyone granted leave to remain or family reunion should prove their economic ability to support themselves and family by renouncing all claims to housing benefit, child support, etc..

  10. Black, Pakistani, Bangladeshi people, whose very presence in Britain is inextricable from our colonial past

    Bollo*ks. They didn’t arrive in significant numbers until well after WW2.

    @Jonathan – I believe the line you quote refers to how Black, Pakistani, Bangladesh immigrants are, in the sort of exciting contradiction on which the left thrives, both desperately needed by dull, white old Albion and also our punishment for the sins of empire.

    Although, as Steve says, I fail to see why I deserve punishment for the colonial adventures of long dead Britons, when my family were plugging away in the soil of NW England. If any of my antecedents plundered a Nawab’s treasury, they must have spaffed the loot pretty quickly….

  11. @ MC.

    Yes:

    The Left:

    Step 1) It’s not happening, it’s a far-right conspiracy theory.

    Step 2) It’s happening but only in a small way and it’s nothing to worry about unless you’re a bigot!

    Step 3) It’s happened and you can’t do anything about it now and it’s what you deserve you filthy Nazi!

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