An easy solution for Mr. Brown

Too easy for anyone to believe of course.

The former prime minister Gordon Brown has demanded fresh government financial support for households struggling to pay energy bills as he warned almost a million more households would be in fuel poverty this winter.

Currently the green nonsense adds £6 billion a year – £200 per household so we’re told – to bills. Remove the green nonsense and fewer would be in fuel poverty, right?

Don’t forget, fuel poverty is spending more than 10% of household income upon fuel. £200 is about 1% of median household income. Yes, it would make a difference.

24 thoughts on “An easy solution for Mr. Brown”

  1. You have to wonder about the mentality of people who spend ages telling us that we must pay more for our energy, and when that happens (due to their actions no less) they then start complaining that some people can’t afford it.

    Not only that the same sort of people also keep telling us that renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels, so logically as we increase the % of our energy derived from those sources the price of it should fall. And yet it moves ever upward……….

  2. @Jim

    “Not only that the same sort of people also keep telling us that renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels”

    To be fair I havnt heard that lie in a while. Now its just saving the world, not from runaway global warming (the initial claimed problem) but now to stop the temperature rising at all. But as long as we build monuments to the sky gods they may look more favorably upon the chosen few.

  3. @Jim – It’s hard to know where the line between dishonesty and derangement lies. “Humankind cannot bear very much reality” and I fear lefty politics is a symptom of this. That’s why nothing angers them more than factual argument.

    Mind you, our allegedly right-wing government has just spaffed £300bn in a largely failed attempt to stop old people dying a few years before their time, while pressing ahead with green policies guaranteed to freeze a few thousand more into an early grave every winter.

  4. @ MC

    At least this is a self-solving problem. Once the Tory party has killed off their traditional supporters (the elderly) they won’t get back into power for a while.

  5. This is SOP for Brown – the idiot who ripped down his own tax break (for low paid workers no less) because he thought it was a tax dodge.

    We’re supposed to filter out the fuckwits via democracy I guess, but tribalism kinda gelds that system.

  6. Johnson is due to give a speech today promising zero carbon by 2035.
    These people are incapable of learning from experience.

  7. Jim: “Not only that the same sort of people also keep telling us that renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels”.

    Exactly. Now ask these people to remove all the subsidies then.

  8. Caught a bit of BBC breakfast this morning (I know it’s a sort of self flagellation exercise) and there was a propaganda puff piece by their new “climate” editor Justin Rowlatt. Justin was in Hull looking at the offshore wind industry. Luckily I’m blessed with a strong constitution, and managed to retain the contents of my breakfast in my stomach, but I imagine many other critical thinkers might not have been so fortunate.

    It’s all too wonderful for words obviously, and what could possibly go wrong. Apart from all the other arguments against it this report brought to the fore yet another issue. Justin went out on the support boat as the guys went to do some repairs. However the swell was too much for them to safely climb the ladder of the turbine, to get to the bottom platform whence there was ingress to the tower of the turbine, so home they went. They went back the next day and this time got onto the bottom platform. However the crane on the platform which was meant to lift their gear (obviously too heavy to carry up a ladder) was broken, so home they trotted again. Quite how they’re ever going to repair that was not specified. And this is in the relative calm before winter sets in.

    However you’ll be heartened to hear all these jobs are well paid, and there are lots of them. Jobs are a cost? Not in climate land they’re not.

  9. Tim–can you give a source for the calculation that the greenfreaks cost us £200 a year on our energy bills. If I can find a reliable calculation of green subs then I will cut that much off my energy bill.

  10. Energy poverty is going to be a big problem this coming winter since the likelihood that it’s going to be a cold one is quite high. At least, according to my super reliable long range weather forecasting methodology.*

    It could be that people will not only be unable to afford energy, but there won’t be enough energy available to buy. If we get a nice big anticyclone over Europe in January – similar to the conditions in August and September – then there will be little wind power, little solar power and a continent wide price scramble for whatever gas Vladimir cares to sell us.

    Should’ve gone fracking.

    *The Holly in my back garden has more berries on it this year than it’s ever had before and my dear departed Gran told me that lot’s of berries on the holly in Autumn meant a very hard Winter to come. Well it’s at least as reliable a long term weather forecast as the Met Office’s multi-billion pound super computer.

    There is a bright side to this, though. With all the cheap Chinese Xmas crap being held up by logistical problems I should be able to sell my holly as real Christmas decorations, Say ten quid a sprig.

  11. Kevin B

    A colder winter is more likely than not.

    – We are in a La Nina
    – A Polar Vortex is on the way
    – Significantly greater than average ice coverage in the Arctic at the minimum date this summer.
    – Vostok in Russia recorded a temperature just 0.5c above the lowest temperature recorded in October – on the 1st October.

    And, yes, your Grannies berries are better than the Met Office’s supercomputer once interpreted by the Met Office.

  12. It’s not the Covid virus that worries me it’s the stupidity-and-ignorance virus that infects the whole ruling class. It’s no use demanding that more of the ruling class should have a science education since it’s bent scientists who are at the root of the scares and the new Commandments.

    It’s not easy to see a solution that doesn’t involve machine-gunners.

  13. Holly Berries? ffs.

    Berry crop depends on what happened in the past, ie blossom time, sunshine over the summer, etc.

    If you think it tells you anything about the future then I have a bridge etc etc.

  14. Berry crop depends on what happened in the past, ie blossom time, sunshine over the summer, etc.

    Yes, a set of weather patterns over time leads to plant response. And a set of weather patterns over time leads to winter conditions. It’s not impossible that there’s correlation. A red sky at night doesn’t make the next day’s weather; they’re both caused by the same conditions.

    Successful weather forecasting is entirely dependent on past events; it’s simply comparing recent / current conditions with similar from previous years and then making an educated guess based on what the outcomes were.

  15. I interviewed someone involved in solar earlier this year. I think he said the best new solar installations can produce cheaper electricity than fossil fuels, but only intermittently. And not in Northern Europe.

  16. Ecoloon–Thank you.

    Since Bogus J and his scummers think that Council Tax is going up by 9% this year and 25% over next 3-5 years then their will b a lot of trouble all around.

    I’m not going to sit back while Marxist-owned ecoshite Johnson kicks of his ruin/poverty for plebs program.

  17. Solar and wind are often cheaper than coal and sometimes gas before you include the storage costs to level the supply. This is the next technical challenge to overcome.

  18. Bloke in North Dorset

    Recusant

    “ Significantly greater than average ice coverage in the Arctic at the minimum date this summer.
    – Vostok in Russia recorded a temperature just 0.5c above the lowest temperature recorded in October – on the 1st October.”

    It’s been a bit nippy at the bottom as well:

    https://notrickszone.com/2021/10/03/south-pole-sees-record-cold-winter-smashing-1976-record-wapo-admits-chill-was-exceptional/

    The problem is that the catastrophists will claim this makes their point as we’re getting “extremes”. Heads they win tails we lose.

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