…abortion writ large often overlook what the fall of Roe would actually mean for women and birthing people in the U.S.
It’s not just that idiocy of “women and birthing people” it’s the use of “birthing” in relation to abortion – the entire idea of which is not to be a birthing person.
They found that for women who were denied an abortion, there was “an increase in poverty; a decrease in employment that lasts for years; a scaling back of aspirational plans; and years spent trying to raise a child without enough money to pay for food, housing, and transportation instead of pursuing other life goals,”
I’m sure you could say much the same about men denied the right to strangle their wives for the insurance money.
abortion does not harm women’s mental health, and 95% of women who have abortions felt their decision was the right one for them.
Do modern women, in general, seem mentally well to you?
A post-Roe world will mean a person’s ability to access abortion heavily depends on which state they live in
Pretty sure different states having different laws is meant to be a feature, not a flaw, in a federal system.
A world in which Roe is not law of the land will be devastating for women and birthing people in Mississippi: It’s 75 times more deadly to carry a pregnancy to term than to have an abortion in the Southern state. And that’s disproportionately felt by Black women and by poor women in Mississippi.
Imagine how the poor Black babies must feel when their tiny helpless Black bodies are burned with chemicals and ripped apart with surgical implements.
Main cause of abortion =2 turds who couldn’t wait to stick it in and wiggle it about and didn’t care about consequences. So bollocks to the abortion BS. Let both parties face the consequences of their “choices”.
@Mr Ecks,
Spot on.
I’m not religious, and definitely not a Catholic, but I consider abortion to be an abomination.
Contraception – yes. Personal responsibility – yes. Murdering the unborn in a cruel way – How can anyone be that barbaric?
What’s an abortion writ? Is it forcing someone to have an abortion, or forcing them not to?
Presumably it’s fine for black or poor “birthing people” then. Or are there no black or poor such?
Remember when abortion should be ‘safe, legal and rare’..?
Not an easy subject to discuss (people tend to get a bit aeriated), but my observations:
My body, My choice (especially important in these days of mandatory gene therapy treatments beloved by government / big Pharma).
Even if it were illegal people would still do it (hence the legalisation in the first place).
Lots of peeps choose to do it, meaning those peeps are getting what those peeps desire – a mantra I have heard on this very blog, often.
‘Bodies being pulled apart / chemical killing’ you are vegan obviously (or don’t Gods other creatures count).
As far as I know, in those countries where it is legal, it is not compulsory and people have a choice, unlike in the countries where it is banned obviously.
We may think people are feckless (Oh yes, bigly) and absolutely should not use abortion as the first line of contraception, but there are others out there that make genuine mistakes (me personally, my firstborn, who is a man I love and adore) but do you really think those feckless twats you criticise should be in charge of raising a child?
How can anyone be that barbaric?
Read the pages of the Grauniad, Vice, Salon et al. You’ll get the idea soon enough. Enough to turn the stomach of any reasonable person. Like you, I’m not religious, but I find abortion abhorrent.
Even if it were illegal people would still do it (hence the legalisation in the first place).
Which is why, despite finding the concept repugnant, I don’t believe that it should be illegal. See also, prostitution.
‘Even if it were illegal people would still do it (hence the legalisation in the first place).’
I have to agree with you, Addolff and Longrider.
I do tend to think it might be quicker to copy the abos and just bash the kid’s head in. Or if you dump them on a rubbish heap like the Greeks and Romans, someone might adopt them. But they’d probably just raise them to chop out their organs for transplants.
Doesn’t really seem like there’s any good solution to this one. Perhaps I’m simply just noticing how the world really is.
Remember when abortion should be ‘safe, legal and rare’..?
Regarding rare, isn’t that what they say about vaccine side effects…??
Curiously enough, in the UK, the number of abortions performed since it was legalised is roughly equivalent to the number of immigrants over the same period. So we murdered our children and let in a load of peasants to replace them.
Still, at least a few more women managed to escape the oppression of motherhood and forge successful careers in PR, HR and marketing.
Hurrah for modernity.