No Gina

We have to stop politicians marking their own homework, and bring in legal frameworks that deter bad behaviour. We need a legally binding agreement between MPs and those who elect them, to ensure that all understand what is expected. Working hours, disciplinary policy, harassment, discrimination, expenses, misconduct, conflicts of interest and outside jobs should all be covered. I believe this reform would change the culture, calibre and cost of politics overnight.

We went though all of this with John Wilkes. Any tosser who can get the votes is fine as an MP. Absent some very general rules – no bankrupts etc – we don’t have legal restrictions. Eve a criminal serving a sentence can get elected. As has been done at least once.

23 thoughts on “No Gina”

  1. And look where it’s got us. An elected dictatorship. These people need to learn that they are the subordinates in this relationship. They serve us, not boss us about. That’s how it’s supposed to work. I’d like to see an arrangement that makes it easier to recall the bastards and sack them for bad behaviour.

  2. To quote Gordon Gekko: “What about it? I bet you stayed up all night analysing those dogshit stocks and where did it get you?”

    I don’t care how many hours my MP works. I don’t care if he’s fucking his interns. Or talking about Bongo Bongo Land. Just make me richer. This isn’t an “hours” job. It’s a “making the right decisions” job. Fuck most of the trivia in select committees about football shirts, Facebook grandstanding or feminist bollocks. Go and snort cocaine off a hooker’s tits instead. When there’s decisions about wars, or spending billions on IT systems and choo choos or privatisations, do the work.

    The problem with most MPs is that they’re bureaucrats, idiots and party loyalists.

  3. You know, I could accept the role of an MP as a glorified social worker in his constituency as long as he does his primary job properly. Making laws. Not letting the government ride roughshod over parliament. Holding them to account even if they are in the same party. Knowing the boundary between of what the law should do and what it should leave alone.

    Very few of them do that. They all have a staff who can do the constituency work.

    I don’t GAF about second jobs except influence-peddling.

  4. Off topic but fun & games over on Spud’s site (‘Greenwash will not do”) where his claims to have ‘created’ CBCR are challenged and he gets in a right froth, claiming TJN have been running a campaign of abuse to undermine him since 2017.

    Interesting that Spud claims the author of a 2017 TJN report lied by claiming not to know of Spud’s involvement in the CBCR campaign – interesting because the report specifically mentions Spud’s work.

    Also, an example of Spud’s bluster…

    “no one seriously considers the 70s and 80s work – of which I was wholly unaware – is in any way related to my work”

    So he claims to have been wholly unaware of the work in the 70s and 80s while at the same time knows that no one considers this work comparable to his.

  5. Defined hours? So, eg a 35-hour week. You sit twiddlig your thumbs in a quiet week for 30 hours having got everything done in 5 hours. (This did happen to me when a local councillor.) Then 36 hours into the working week somebody invades – but sorry, I’ve already done my 35 hours this week, I’ll deal with it next week.

    Sorry, with this sort of work it’s defined tasks not defined hours. You do the amount of work needed to get the task done regardless of what that may be. You don’t say Sorry, it’s 5 o’clock, I’ll sort that border treaty tomorrow.

  6. Longrider x 2000

    I’ve been shocked by how quickly Boris Johnson has plumbed the depths.

    No you haven’t.

    There’ll be worse to come if he’s not reined in

    No there won’t.

    Gina Miller is a transparency campaigner

    No she isn’t.

    Johnson cannot resist ravaging our mother of all parliaments

    Well, what was she wearing?

    Johnson and co have been trashing our democratic institutions and norms though divisive messaging and the introduction of ideologically driven legislative reforms

    When we do it, it’s progressive and enlightened and democracy has consequences, bigots. When they do it, it’s literally that film V for Vendetta, bigots.

    but we have a representative democracy

    Except when people vote to leave the EU, in which case it’s time for rule by unaccountable lawyers, lol.

  7. ‘it’s time for rule by unaccountable lawyers,’

    Yeah Steve, that’s exactly what it sounds like. I’ve seen the way these woke bastards conduct never ending lawsuits against all and sundry. You’re violating ‘international law’, whatever the hell that is.

    No, no, no, no, no!!!! BoM4 has it right. At least if we elect them we can chuck them out if they piss us off. But having a pack of woke judges appealed to by an even bigger pack of woke wankers; no way.

  8. It’s basically the Professional-Managerial class’s answer for everything – process over outcome. If we could just write an ever more perfect policy document then all will be well with the world…

    Given how fond they are of telling us how ‘lessons will be learned’ every time they’re found wanting, you think they’d have figured out that it doesn’t work.

  9. They serve us, not boss us about. That’s how it’s supposed to work.

    Not really; we elect them to govern us, not serve us. The notion that they’re public servants is perhaps why people don’t pay enough attention when choosing.

  10. I see that the girl who threatened to throw acid on a rival’s face is still MP for Leicester East. I also see that it’s quite possible that the next Labour candidate for Leicester East will be the appalling crook Keith Vaz.

    It seems to me that we need to have a system of constituency ostracism. If two thirds of other constituencies (say) vote that Leicester East be denied an MP for a five year stretch, then we’d be Vaz-free and Webbe-free in all likelihood. Being denied an MP would serve the voters of Leicester East right.

  11. BoM4: Don’t want the feckless though. I don’t mind the coke ‘n hookers thing if they are in shape & crack on when it matters. But coke ‘n hooker aficionados aren’t generally like that. 2nd jobs ought to be de rigeur for MPs anyway and not just a couple of non-exec directorships. So they have to interact with the real world day by day.

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    I’m with BoM4, but add that one thing I do care about is that they know the difference between the tax payers pound and their own when paying for the coke and hookers..

  13. “2nd jobs ought to be de rigeur for MPs anyway”

    But preferably enforcing ASBOs on sink estates and clearing up vomit from drunks on the street, all on minimum wage. That would count as interacting with the real world far more than well paid non-execs and “consultancy”.

  14. Don’t know here.

    I would have said pick MPs like Jury Service. But In never imagined how many useless cowardly credulous dim fuckwits UK is full of. We need to reduce their House of Scum’s powers by 95 % and have a well-armed country ready to put attempts at tyranny down. Minimum.

    BiS ‘s notions aside–and they are no longer credible–its obvious that Johnson is trying to see social credit tyranny imposed on UK–as his chunk of the worldwide plan- and we will have to fight against it and his gang.

  15. I’m all alongside the fragrant Gina, on this. MP’s wanted to treat it as a job. So let’s treat it as a job. And they can have all the restrictions & grief being in employment brings nowadays. After all, they’re the people who’ve imposed this lot of shit on everyone else. So suck it up & like it.

  16. Gina wants someone to pass a law about how MPs behave – who? Presumably the Eurocrats in Brussels who think that they can over-rule national laws in places like Poland…
    In Britain the MPs make the laws and can unmake laws, so anyone with the brain of a rabbit can see that no agreement between MPs and constituents can be guaranteed to STAY legally binding.

  17. I’ve said for years that there needs to be an age limit for being an MP, that is to say an age bar, you have to be X years old to stand. Most of the problems we have is down to people seeing being an MP (indeed politics) as a career, something you can ‘go into’ at a time of life when you will be needing to make money. Thus you get the sort of people who want to be in charge who are precisely the people you want nowhere near power. End all that, make politics something you do after you’ve had a career, made your pile doing something else, gained experience of life at the sharp end for a good 3 decades I’d say. No standing for Parliament until you’re 50 would be my call.

  18. Years ago I saw a comment that often MPs had run something – a company, an estate, a regiment, a professional practice, a trade union, a school. Them wuz the days.

  19. The best politician is one who hardly does anything. No new laws whipped up on a whim because some shouty person wants it. No appearing in the news having appeared to have done something important. Forget about the social work aspect in the constituency, that’s the job of others.

  20. The recently late L Neil Smith’s idea about a 200 year moratorium on new laws is still a great plan. But it needs to be carried out by those determined to wipe out the last 151 years worth of bullshit laws also.

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