Tech question

The household – for which read she who rules it – desires a tablet. Android.

OK, so, go for the Amazon Fire 10 HD? Sadly, while that’s on sale in US and GB it ain’t here and we’ve a customs border now.

Or go for the €30 euro cheaper no name that also includes stand, keyboard, mouse etc?

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28 thoughts on “Tech question”

  1. Harry Haddock's Ghost

    Amazon tabs are crippled with no access to the Android play store without farting about sideloading. You will need to make sure all the apps she wants are available in the Amazon marketplace, or whatever their app store is called.

  2. “Amazon tabs are crippled with no access to the Android play store without farting about sideloading.”

    Got a Fire tablet myself. The sideloading isn’t that difficult if you follow one of the many online instructions, but the result isn’t perfect. There are some Android apps that simply don’t work on Fire, with no rhyme or reason.

    Chromebooks work very nicely and run Android apps plus Linux if you want it, but that means an attached keyboard which probably is overkill.

  3. Forgot to say: the cheap landfill Android tablet is probably running an out of date version, with no security updates and beaming credit card and bank data back to Beijing.

  4. I have a cheap chinese “Allday” tablet. Pefectly satisfactory, especially with a keyboard. Cost about 35 quids.

  5. Also bear in mind: more RAM generally means faster operation (and presumably happier SWMBO and therefore personal happiness).

    I wouldn’t touch the $30 one with someone else’s barge pole. All the add-on minimum quality tat has to be paid for, and that generally comes out of the quality of the unit itself. And at $30 there’s not a whole lot of leeway there.

  6. I bought a no name with keyboard a few years ago. While it was fine as a tablet and had the latest Android it took forever to boot up. £150 at Argos will get one a reasonable Lenovo, which of course they don’t have in Port. It’d probably be called Argeix.

  7. My wife demanded an Amazon Fire tablet (because her nephew had one …. hmmmmm) but never uses it. It’s not very good.

    I own nothing from Apple due to their elevated prices, but were I to get a tablet I probably would go for an iPad as even the most lazy developers test their software on them. Android tablets come in many different flavors running a multitude of different operating system versions and modifications so its very possible that what you want to use has never been tested on something similar to your tablet.

  8. Like most things, Tim, depends what you want to use it for. There’s no point paying for a lot of functionality you’re rarely going to use. I bought a couple of tabs off Amazon. Cost about 100€ a piece. One sits in the car because I dislike reading stuff on fone screens. Sure, they’re a bit clunky & take a while to boot. But they’re perfectly adequate for e-mail, web browsing, watching a bit of Netflix whatever. Mr Cat’s probably right about the security aspect but I’d never do financial stuff on an Android system in the first place. Every dark hacker on the planet’s trying to crack Android & its apps. And the average Android user’s the IQ of a plant.

  9. I’d recommend middle price and functionality but decent quality to last – Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 10 inch screen for about £140. Bought one for aging father and it’s great.

  10. I’d swallow your pride and plump for the iPad. Latest one costs £319, and you’ll never find yourself wishing you’d bought the Android instead. Software updates for at least five years, so it’ll last a long time.

  11. The Android tablet market is dominated by Chinese landfill. Stuff that costs maybe 120 to 150 quid seems reasonably OK to me, for a name you’ve never heard of and probably can’t pronounce anyway.

    Wouldn’t want to touch the stuff priced below that, regardless of how many goodies get thrown in. You get what you pay for, after all.

    Otherwise, there’s big jump in price to the decent Lenovo or Samsung gear. And it pains me to say it, but at that level, you’d want to look at an iPad.

    But, why not get a flippy-toppy Chromebook, where the keyboard forms the stand?

  12. I owned, in fact still own, a Lenovo android pad, but it’s going on marketplace because I hated it. Not sure if it was the Lenovo or the Android that annoyed me, probably the latter.

    Had an iPad, loved it. Don’t use a tablet now though, MacBook Air is just as handy for casual surfing and doubles up for work.

  13. AndyF,

    “I own nothing from Apple due to their elevated prices, but were I to get a tablet I probably would go for an iPad as even the most lazy developers test their software on them. Android tablets come in many different flavors running a multitude of different operating system versions and modifications so its very possible that what you want to use has never been tested on something similar to your tablet.”

    It doesn’t make that much difference. The core of Android is mostly the same from version to version, with either new features or bug fixes to old versions. Manufacturers mostly create new UIs or install extra apps, not changing the core.

  14. It’s available on Amazon.fr website, so set up an account on it and have it shipped. There may be freight but no Customs.

  15. O/T It’s easy to toggle between languages digitally but how do you change the keys to give a different symbol? On my Macbook Air I have a Spanish keyboard. No pound sign but the ¿ key is redundant for me. The French AZERTY keyboard is more different than the Swiss French keyboard which largely follows English QWERTY except it’s QWERTZ. No idea how the Portuguese or German keyboards are laid out.

  16. “O/T It’s easy to toggle between languages digitally but how do you change the keys to give a different symbol?”
    Load US International as k/b. If you can’t find anyone will sell you the physical k/b there’s a seller on E-Bay does packs of self-adhesive characters to stick on the keys of most k/b’s, whatever their layout. For durability, a little transparent nail varnish over the sticker & key top helps.
    That’ll give you pretty well any European latin script language plus proper fractions 1/2, 1/3, 1/2, squared & cubed where they belong TM, copywrite symbols, lot of other stuff. Even has thorn on it. Best thing since sliced bread. No need to keep adjusting to different k/b & fucks over anyone trying to use your’s.

  17. BiS
    I got a rubber sheet with various keyboard symbols, for after you toggle the menu to e.g. Swiss French, with all those accents. But it means I have to type twice as hard, with my fists.

  18. I have an old Lenovo 10″ which is reliable but very slow. My latest 10″ tablet is a Teclast from China via ebay, and I am very happy with it. The Achilles’ heel of big tablets is the battery, so make sure you get the best possible battery for the available dollars. If you do without a fancy camera you can probably save a bit.

  19. Are there any cheap tablets that have a proper fitted keyboard case? Not just a generic thing with straps, but a slim plastic one designed for that tablet that fits properly around it?

  20. No Amazon stuff. You pay for the ‘lower price’ by being part of a data-harvesting and surveillance apparatus.

    No Chromebook unless you want to overpay for crappy hardware, be relegated to using Google’s web-apps, and want to be part of a data-harvesting and surveillance apparatus.

    Microsoft Surface. I have a Surface 5 from a few years ago that I really like. You can run an Android emulator for your Android apps.

    Or Samsung Galaxy.

  21. RichardT
    November 9, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    Are there any cheap tablets that have a proper fitted keyboard case? Not just a generic thing with straps, but a slim plastic one designed for that tablet that fits properly around it?

    MS Surface Pro. Has a great keyboard fitted to the case, easily attachable (magnets) or removable.

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