So, OK, professors attacking the female students. Well, attacking perhaps not so much – attempting to bonk say – but let us for the sake of the argument agree:
It found that sexual violence is “endemic” at universities, with one in 10 staff assaulted at work but only half reporting incidents over the past five years. It also found that 12 per cent of women and 5 per cent of men had directly experienced workplace sexual violence.
Note, the claim is sexual assault. It’s not nasty remarks, it’s willy waving and staining outfits etc up to rape.
while workers who are trans and non-binary were at higher risk of directly experiencing sexual violence (1.3 times as likely).
Now, I can imagine that if we use a modern definition – mispronouning say – then we can reach this result. But if we’re sticking with the usual and colloquial definition of sexual violence – white and powerful men forcing their willies upon people – in what damn world are the trans and non-binary going to get more of this than the tits and pussy crowd?
We’re trying to make the allegation that the trans and non-binary are more attractive to the average power crazed and lust driven white male? Rilly?
The study also discovered that staff with disabilities were twice as likely to experience direct sexual violence years as non-disabled staff, and workers with a sexual orientation other than heterosexual were almost twice as likely to directly experience sexual violence than their heterosexual peers.
No, we’re not using that normal definition of sexual assault, are we?
The one legged lesbian propforwardinadress gets raped more often than that Sophia Loren lookalike in the Italian department? Have these people ever met any humans?
Here’s the definition “Of the staff members surveyed, 52% said they hadn’t disclosed their experience of sexual violence, which was defined in the report as any unwanted sexual advance, ranging from uncomfortable comments and harassment to assault and rape.”
What we need is a bar chart showing the number of ‘uncomfortable comments’ right up to rape.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/dec/22/sexual-harassment-rife-in-uk-universities-warns-staff-union
So… people of a minority category report more unwanted sexual advance, ranging from uncomfortable comments and harassment to assault and rape. Perhaps people who consider themselves ‘of a minority’ are hypersensitve to the comments of others? Assault and rape are clearly bad behaviour but uncomfortable comments and harassment are at least partly in the eyes of the beholder. How much though?
@DiscoveredJoys: I suspect the breakdown would be 10% top end/90% bottom end.
In general HR departments (I work in industry so it is probably worse in universities) work on the basis that if a person finds something offensive they have to investigate as if it is a serious offence.
So if I say to a woman ‘Good morning! What a lovely day!’ and the woman finds it offensive and that thought it was the prelude to a full on sexual assault, the the HR department has to open an investigation and put me on administrative leave. Of course one would hope that the investigation would be over quickly and the woman would be told to get a grip.
Since it seems to be the women doing the complaining, as usual, I’d argue, as usual, that the solution is to abolish co-educational colleges and switch to single sex schools.
More generally it seems to be the custom these days to allow women to intrude into male spaces. And they then find they’re infested with those horrid men.
If we only went back to the good old days, or maybe imitated the Mahometans, these poor girls would be isolated from the beastly blokes and could thus enjoy the beauties of purely female society.
I suspect the breakdown would be 10% top end/90% bottom end.
*snigger*
Disability would probably include things like autism and, possibly, mental health conditions such as depression and severe anxiety. I know, from ‘meeting humans’ that people with these conditions are often targeted by people who see them as easier prospects than the Sophia Loren types. As we know, very few assaults (as you would regard them) are simply dragging a hot person into a bush.. usually they are escalations from consensual, or perceived consensual, activity.. so, yeah, quite easy to believe that one.
As for trans and the gays.. as I understand it, they have porn audiences that are very much proportionally larger than their share of population and expressed preferences of the population. So, again, possibly not such a stretch. You don’t have to talk about lesbians to too many guys before one of them will remark that they probably just need a good cock. And with trans people, as their numbers are so low, ‘1.3 times as likely’ could be about relatively few people. Also, again, these groups are more prone to the things that affect hose noted above with mental factors.
None of this means that you are wrong. But it doesn’t fail the sniff test so easily, and if you’re making comments suggesting that Sophia Loren is more likely to be a victim of sexual assault than someone less obviously sexually appealing, it does kinda seem like you’re not really interested at all in how humans actually behave.
while workers who are […] non-binary were at higher risk of directly experiencing sexual violence
How would colleagues know if a person was non-binary unless that person had told them?
I would find this behaviour inappropriate and offensive and would be emailing the HR kombinat before you could say “neurological diversity”.
“any unwanted sexual advance”: I used to be subjected to these horrors. I found that the art was to pretend I’d misunderstood the lass’s intention.
I can see that it’s harder for women because they receive advances from men who are bigger, stronger, faster than they are. But I still see no social benefit in the sort of hysteria that yields “12 per cent of women and 5 per cent of men had directly experienced workplace sexual violence”.
Violence? ‘Come on, man’ as Gibbering Joe would say.
Mind you, there used to be a chap in the Chem Lab at Cambridge who routinely groped the female research students; no one did anything about it. Source: a former female research student from the lab who, I suspect, nobody would dare grope.
workers who are trans and non-binary were at higher risk of directly experiencing sexual violence
So irrational hysterical narcissists are more likely to exaggerate or simply make up claims of sexual violence then?
That’s when they are not claiming that their total inability to get laid is the result of ‘transphobia’.
If you drop the assumption that the trans/non-binary crowd are most at risk from straight white males and factor in something that trans activists are unwilling to talk about (i.e. that their number include more than a few predatory bastards who like to prey on young, scared kids unsure about their sexuality) then that ‘unlikely’ claim makes more sense.
Yes, people from a very small sexual minority could be statistically most at risk, because (a) their numbers are so small in the first place so any attacks at all add up to quite a large percentage but (b) those they’re most at risk from are sick predators who claim similar sexual orientation and interests, which they may or not actually have.
sexual violence is “endemic” at universities
Stop sending girls and trannies to “yooni” then. What kind of sick pervert wants our vulnerable women and precious he-shes to be molestered?
The delusional who have a delusion that they are in fact a woman / man / fox-kin despite being born with different sexual appendages are also delusional about being subject of sexual assault.
Hmm.
I seem to remember that Andrea Dworkin (of unphuqable tub of lard feminazi fame) was also raped countless times yet nobody was every jugged for it.
It’s almost as if delusional people are delusional about lots of different things.
“Disability would probably include things like autism and, possibly, mental health conditions such as depression and severe anxiety”
Are those with poor social skills giving or receiving (or both?)
Marxist bullshit from A to Z Tim.
A good hiding for all concerned in spewing the lies is likely the best response.
Yeah ok Willie, i get your general counter point about your sniff test vs TW’s but the pudding will be in the break down.Specifically the severity by group which the journos didn’t delve into so we’re all blind on that. And there’s also Tim’s other point about all reported unwelcome interactions into ‘sexual violence’ you didn’t touch on.
Sometimes, people just want what they can’t have, Tim. For instance, a gay guy with a mental illness and socialist leanings.
I suspect the discrepancy is due to reporting – the more traditionally-minded recipient of unwanted approaches being more likely to say “sod off” and get on with whatever they were doing, whereas the more right-on progressive activist rights-aware types will be straight onto twitter/facecloth/guardian to report a heinous crime.
while workers who are trans and non-binary were at higher risk of directly experiencing sexual violence (1.3 times as likely)
A truly meaningful discussion would include figures stating how the level of sexual violence committed by said groups compares with the norm.
Andrea Dworkin (UTLFF) was also raped countless times
More likely instances of “he looked at me funny”.
John Galt: I seem to remember that Andrea Dworkin (of unphuqable tub of lard feminazi fame) was also raped countless times yet nobody was every jugged for it.
Soon doubtless a thing of the past: no jig-a-jig, no jug.
What the figures don’t tell us is how much of the unwanted attention foisted upon LGBTQs comes from other LGBTQs. Might explain everything. (See also crime stats: when the victim is black, the offender usually is too.)
I really wish I could find that survey from decades ago showing that 75% of undergraduates had received “unwanted sexual advances”. The first question popped into my mind when I saw it was what on earth the other 25% were doing wrong.
Likely a lot of it is “he raped me by not even making any effort to try to rape me”
We’re trying to make the allegation that the trans and non-binary are more attractive to the average power crazed and lust driven white male? Rilly?
Admit it, your loins are stirred:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10336917/Paedophile-60-identifies-female-jailed-20-months-sex-dog.html
It’s UCU – they haven’t a clue.
‘What do we want?’
‘I don’t know’
‘When do we want it?’
‘What?’
I worked somewhere where one of the female managers would claim someone man had looked at her in a way that made her feel uncomfortable when what she meant is they wouldn’t let her get her own way.
The threat she might talk to HR frightened senior staff into giving into her, sadly even though this was well known none of the directors was prepared to call her bluff so she kept getting away with it though the smarter ones did stop assigning men to work with her
BniC
Having encountered such ones in corporations, they also tend to be incredible bullies and/or take all of the credit and none of the blame so that even other women don’t want to work for them. Easiest solution is promotion, which might account for the dispropotionate number of useless female managers that I have encountered down the years.
The case of Philip Pickett is interesting. I used to go to his concerts quite a lot in the 1990s, he often did innovative Early Music concerts, but always struck me as being like a least favourite geography teacher. He often had v pretty young girlies in tow.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/top-uk-music-teacher-philip-pickett-jailed-for-11-years-over-sex-attacks-in-soundproof-guildhall-practice-rooms-a161061.html
Some months ago doing some random web searching I discovered that my music teacher 40 years ago had 20 years ago been convicted for sexual assault 50 years ago of one of his 15-year-old girl pupils who was described as having an insatiable crush on him. The reporting of the details are so vague and confusing and only mentions “a couple of kisses and inappropriate non-skin touching”, “she skipped classes to be with him”, and “she didn’t want to complain as she was getting attention”.
Who was it who said that children going through puberty should be locked up for their own safety from themselves?
I asked my wife. She said in her undergraduate days some departments seemed to have a culture of male academics trying it on with female undergraduates and others did not. Her department behaved decently.
As a postgraduate the worst she was subjected to was an academic from a different department inviting her away for a dirty weekend. She laughed it off.
Maybe she was lucky but she was a strikingly attractive lass. Twice she was pestered by local citizens, once with a real try-to-grab-her-and-rape-her attack: what Whoopi Goldberg would call an attempt at rape rape.
Dearieme,
In my part of the world one never, ever describes a woman as attractive and uses the past tense.
It makes as much sense to publish a ‘study’ – sorry “ground-breaking report” – that conflates mean comments and murder: “12 per cent of female students and and 5 per cent of males have been murdered.”
As for the figures for transexuals, is anyone surprised at such fanciful claims from attention-seeking mentalists (mind you, the higher number for the disabled might be true; after all they can’t run away.)
In an engineering department – and civil engineering at that – most female students and even female staff members are highly unlikely to be magnets for sexual proposals, on the grounds of looking like hardcore dykes, even if they aren’t. Add to that the fact that most male staff members, if not all, simply aren’t into bloke-on-bloke stuff, as engineering is bloody difficult, and pansies gravitate to the wokery (or is it wankery?), there isn’t an air of sexual tension around Bernoulli’s Theorem, inverting stiffness matrices, combining it with a bit of geology, and a whole bunch of other really difficult but interesting stuff.
On the other hand, there are departments in the (f)Arts, where the staff refer to the new intake of students as ‘fuckees’.
“one never, ever describes a woman as attractive and uses the past tense.” My dear sir, the past tense applied to “lass” not “attractive”. She has aged gracefully into what my parent’s generation would have called a “girl”.
Dearieme,
My bad.