Billie Eilish has just turned 20. Last week, talking to the radio host Howard Stern on SiriusXM, she discussed the impact that viewing pornography online, at a young age, had had on her. She explained that she was about 11 when she first saw pornography, and that it had given her nightmares, and affected her understanding and expectations of what sex should be. “I think it really destroyed my brain and I feel incredibly devastated that I was exposed to so much porn,” she said.
Not to particularly defend 11 year olds watching porn. But it’s sex which confuses, not porn. This is why we have these age of consent things, because we realise that kiddies don’t understand and can’t.
That the entirety of society – outside the wilder reaches of the Labour Party – agrees on the undesirability of paedophilia is proof of this very contention. Sex is confusing to children, they don’t understand it.
Portrayal of it isn’t the point at all.
Nope. You have a point, but it very much is the porn. The first glimpse of porn we might have had as adolescents (naked pics basically) was woefully tame, if that’s the right word, compared with the aggressive and misogynistic stuff which is mainstream now. It’s not good for adults, never mind an unformed mind.
I still remember my first sight of flange in a discarded copy of Mayfair retrieved from a hedge. Quite put me off my lunch. I’ve been a fan of peachy innies over growly outies ever since.
Modern porn is weird though. Why are they all shaven? Why do they all love sodomy so much? What’s with the spitting?
Interested “What’s with the spitting?”.
It’s cheaper than lard.
Point taken, Tim, but
“I think it really destroyed my brain and I feel incredibly devastated that I was exposed to so much porn,” she said.
I’ve listened to 20 seconds of her music and read maybe two paragraphs of her provious mumblings, so we need another explanation for what destroyed her brain.
She provided the theme song to the latest Bond flic, and underwhelming doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Every time I catch a glimpse of American porn, I can’t help but imagine the performers clocking in and clocking out after every shift. Rote and soulless doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Shaven – I’ve got the feeling this was initially down to Californian law, way back when.
Anyway, how the hell is Howard Stern still going?
It’s cheaper than lard.
and even cheaper than butter, pace Mr Brando
Interested,
“Modern porn is weird though. Why are they all shaven? Why do they all love sodomy so much? What’s with the spitting?”
Well, firstly, a lot more women in general are shaven. People can try and come up with all sorts of reasons, but a simple one is that women generally like to remove body hair and no-one wanted to take a wet razor to their minge like they did their legs. Electric razors got cheaper and it was much safer. On top of that, we got richer, which is why there’s far more places doing nails, tanning and tattoos than there were when I was a kid. Plus, places to get your fanny waxed.
With regards to porn content, the thing is that it’s now one of the most open markets around. Porn was once a lot like TV. Not many distribution channels, so it was quite homogenous. It had to sell to the average consumer. The internet and cheap cameras means almost anyone can produce and distribute porn, so everything is being covered, as well as generally mainstream stuff. The mainstream, the biggest sellers, might well be about extreme male tastes, because it’s about male fantasies, getting to do the things you don’t get to do in everyday life. Women’s erotic fiction is similar in that it’s about getting romantically involved with alpha males (doctors, ships captains, billionaires) rather than a guy who is a team leader at Direct Line. But there’s definitely things like romantic couples porn that is more vanilla.
I hate to say ahtodaso but I fucking ahtodaso. – some Canadian bloke
“Modern porn is weird” – I believe the free stuff is deliberately weird, in an attempt to push customers onto the paid-for stuff. Like a dealer sprinkling heroin into cannabis. The economics of freemium porn must be quite interesting.
While she may well have been shocked if she saw some of the modern stuff (11yr old.. a dare? ), part of it may well be that the kneejerking attempts of keeping any hint at sex(uality) from kids is the root problem here.
No. Reference…
I distinctly remember things like Benny Hill and stuff on national television, dutch kid’s shows showing (budding) relations between adults and between teens, some quite explicit, Tiroler/blue movies in the “late” (9pm) saturday slot, even some real softpr0n as late movies… Stuff.
And between the Topless Fashion at the beaches/swimming pools and the rather..transparent.. nature and cut of 80’s bathing suits you could get an eyeful or two (sometimes requiring mindbleach… but worth the hassle..) in summer.
You grew into the boy-girl thing, and sorta knew how things usually worked at a pretty young age. Girls and boys.. And we could tell which bits of smut we got our hands on were extreme.. Bit of a sport to actually find/collect those..
Nowadays they go from Barbie to Barbie trying to insert a Dragon inside her (30/30/40 on which hole) on cam in nothing flat. Without reference.
Yeah.. That could well shock some kids.
Oh.. And I may have mentioned this before, but it is very Unwise to search for any popular Cartoon with SafeSearch ( or equivalent) off when kids are present.
Rule 34a: If it’s animated, there will be Fan Art…
Grikath,
“I distinctly remember things like Benny Hill and stuff on national television, dutch kid’s shows showing (budding) relations between adults and between teens, some quite explicit, Tiroler/blue movies in the “late” (9pm) saturday slot, even some real softpr0n as late movies… Stuff.”
I definitely remember growing up with more movies about kids and sexuality. And not with nudity or shagging, but just the fact that kids under 16 wanted to have some sort of intimate relationship. You almost never see it now, not even with under 18s, because no-one even wants to discuss it for fear of being labelled a pedo.
I really don’t care if 13 year olds are watching porn. Their balls have dropped, they’re more interested in Dr Who’s assistant than Dr Who, they’re going to seek out stimulating images. And the fact they’re spaffing over spit-roasted Asian babes instead of Kim Novak’s sweater puppies is irrelevant. Both signal that the person is sexually mature.
The only reason any of this issue exists is that mothers struggle to deal with the fact that their darling little cherub is now a filthy little wanker. Talk to any father and they don’t have “a talk” with their sons about how porn is wrong, they tell them where to hide it so mum won’t find it.
A quick game of `Cards Against Humanity` with the kids is an easy way to tell if the little b*gg*rs have been looking at things that they shouldn’t have.
That the entirety of society – outside the wilder reaches of the Labour Party – agrees on the undesirability of paedophilia . . .
I think it’s more widespread than that. It’s a good bet the trans campaign is a stalking horse for paedophilia. And the trans campaign has been spectacularly successful in forcing the acceptance of something weird, unpleasant and wrong. People are increasingly willing to have their children manipulated, mentally harmed, physically stunted and mutilated. How much more would it take to persuade these types that their children would be advantaged by engaging in sex?
They keep sending out little test shots (“minor attracted persons”). Too early for now but they’ll keep trying, concentrating on promoting the rainbow propaganda in schools.
I agree with PJF, paedo will soon be ‘rehabilitated’. There are those who wish it to be not only allowed but compulsory, like gay and trans. In ten or twenty years you won’t be allowed to criticise a paedo without being cancelled. And kids won’t be allowed to refuse to participate.
Did anyone bother to ask what her parents were doing to stop her accessing porn and what conversations they may have had about online safety and sex etc
The term responsible adult seems to have become disassociated from the word parent the last few decades.
To remark on Grikath’s comments, it was a real eye opener visiting Germany on exchange in the mid 80s. The stuff on TV. The parents who kept their stashes of magazines and VHS collection of “Schulmädchen Report” openly, in the living room. And this in the Catholic deep south.
Maths is also confusing to children, but we don’t try to hide it from them. The real problem is prudishness. Sex is a weird thing that people like when they’re old enough. And it has a bewildering variety of manifestations. Nobody could like all of them. It’s like watching people in far off countries eat weird food – educational to watch, but not something you need to copy. If you try to have a rule for society that no sexual activity can be depicted that isn’t bland enough for everyone, it’s hardly surprising that it causes problems. A bit like obsessively preventing children from drinking and then wondering why so many can’t handle it when they start.
Newly-ordained Lutheran pastor hosts Bible study class for children at woke Chicago church in DRAG saying it is a ‘theological reflection of joy’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10327339/Woke-Chicago-Lutheran-church-invites-newly-ordained-pastor-hold-drag-queen-story-hour-kids.html
As if priests need to make any additional effort to drag up.